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Old 03-20-2012, 05:32 PM   #1
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268 dollars to change Header gasket! RLY?!

I was quoted to have a header gasket changed due to a leak I have. The guy said it would take about 4 hrs! I was j/w if anyone else is finds this to be ridiculous. I would take it to the Chevy service Dpt. but they do crap work where I am at and also I have a tune and don't feel like changing back to stock. Also, I do have the gasket so there is no part they have to order
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Old 03-20-2012, 05:35 PM   #2
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warranty pays 1.3/1.1 hours for the job. Thats to R&R one stock manifold. To do the gasket, i'd say high would be 2.5.

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Old 03-20-2012, 05:40 PM   #3
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That is crazy because I paid a garage mechanic I knew $125 to do my complete header and catless pipes install. I watched and had a couple
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I was quoted to have a header gasket changed due to a leak I have. The guy said it would take about 4 hrs! I was j/w if anyone else is finds this to be ridiculous. I would take it to the Chevy service Dpt. but they do crap work where I am at and also I have a tune and don't feel like changing back to stock. Also, I do have the gasket so there is no part they have to order
That's about right I'm afraid. They have to remove the headers to replace the gasket and that is a 3-3.5 hour job. If you're not familiar with the car I can see it taking 4 hours. Note this is to do both headers so you are looking at 1.5-2 hours per side.
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Old 03-20-2012, 06:01 PM   #5
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I can do both sides in my garage in less time than that.
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Old 03-20-2012, 06:01 PM   #6
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Do it yourself.. All you need are ramps, metric wrenches, boot grease (if you haven't pulled the spark plugs before), some anti seize and maybe 2 hours..
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do it urself pop off the plug wires and a 1/2 wrench and rachet and socket with a few different extentions sizes, if u dont have a air rachet that is.
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Old 03-20-2012, 06:27 PM   #9
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sounds like they do not what the job.
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Old 03-20-2012, 06:33 PM   #10
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Old 03-20-2012, 06:35 PM   #12
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Your shop 'tokes' for an hour? Is that before your install? 'I jus kidding'- In the voice of a Fred Armisen character.
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Old 03-20-2012, 08:12 PM   #15
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I WISH I COULD! I work out of town and spends months away from home. I don't think the hotel people would like me doing this in the parking lot, Otherwise I would throw back a few beers and do it myself.
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Old 03-20-2012, 08:13 PM   #16
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That's about right I'm afraid. They have to remove the headers to replace the gasket and that is a 3-3.5 hour job. If you're not familiar with the car I can see it taking 4 hours. Note this is to do both headers so you are looking at 1.5-2 hours per side.
you don't really need to remove the header to change out the gasket, just need to remove the bolts to loosen it.
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Do you need to replace the gasket on the head, or do you have headers with collector gaskets? Passenger side or Drivers?

If it's the drivers side on the head...you can probably do it in 15 minutes with a 10mm socket. If it's the passenger side, you maybe need 25 minutes because it's just not as easy to reach everything over there.

Hell, I was just out in the hotel parking lot where I'm staying checking my air pressure and making sure I had nothing loose under my hood/car as I just put the whole dam thing back together and then took it on a 5 hour road trip for work lol. Nobody said a word to me
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:23 PM   #18
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Not really sure what a collector gasket is, I installed the ones that came with the headers. It is the driver side leaking only or at least that is the only side with black rings around the front two but I was going to go ahead and get both sides done with the stock gaskets. I misplaced one of the stock bolts and used one of the ones that came with the headers. It is the 2nd bolt from the front where it is leaking and also the one my brother broke a nut off(I guess he didn't know how to use a torque wrench). We were able to get it out since a little bit of thread was still out of the head. I'm 90% sure it wasn't stripped or anything and I did order a few bolts from the Chevy service dept.
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:36 PM   #19
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That is your problem you used the ones that came with the headers get the GM ones (the stock one) and you dont need to remove the headers to do this, what brand of headers do you have?
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:42 PM   #20
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kooks 1 7/8 Lt's and I didn't think you had to remove them to do it. Do you even have to losin the headers at the cats?
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:51 PM   #21
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I sold a friends my old headers installed for 375!!! So he paid me 50 bucks for the install!!
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Got a socket set?

I could do it in the motel parking lot in 30 minutes, both sides, and that includes drinking and scratching.

Use new GM gaskets, throw the aftermarket gaskets in the trash, they are garbage.

You don't have to lift the car.

Open hood.

Pop the plug wires off.

Slide something like a box under each exhaust under the car near the collector/cat. This will keep it from falling down when you take the bolts out.
Or you can tie a rope around the header and tie off to something in the engine compartment.

Take the bolts out, rip the gasket off, scrape anything still stuck there.

Throw in the new GM gaskets.

Tighten the bolts, with blue loctite, working from the center out.

Plug wires back on, kick the boxes out, drink a beer.

No reason that should take longer than an hour. 1/2 hour if your motivated.

The only reason you would need to completely remove the headers is if those crap aftermarket gaskets are really stuck to the heads and headers. Then they will need to come off to do some good gasket scraping if needed.

But if the gaskets come off clean, and you can do the little scraping needed from the top, it's a piece of cake job. 4 hrs is criminal theft.
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Not really sure what a collector gasket is, I installed the ones that came with the headers. It is the driver side leaking only or at least that is the only side with black rings around the front two but I was going to go ahead and get both sides done with the stock gaskets. I misplaced one of the stock bolts and used one of the ones that came with the headers. It is the 2nd bolt from the front where it is leaking and also the one my brother broke a nut off(I guess he didn't know how to use a torque wrench). We were able to get it out since a little bit of thread was still out of the head. I'm 90% sure it wasn't stripped or anything and I did order a few bolts from the Chevy service dept.
A collector gasket would be at the bottom of the header...but most of the headers made for these cars don't use them.

Use a torque wrench whatever you do...it's something low like 18 ft*lbs for header bolts going into the heads...so many people overtighten them, which can damage heads, AND can actually warp the flange and cause leaks.
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Got a socket set?

I could do it in the motel parking lot in 30 minutes, both sides, and that includes drinking and scratching.

Use new GM gaskets, throw the aftermarket gaskets in the trash, they are garbage.

You don't have to lift the car.

Open hood.

Pop the plug wires off.

Slide something like a box under each exhaust under the car near the collector/cat. This will keep it from falling down when you take the bolts out.
Or you can tie a rope around the header and tie off to something in the engine compartment.

Take the bolts out, rip the gasket off, scrape anything still stuck there.

Throw in the new GM gaskets.

Tighten the bolts, with blue loctite, working from the center out.

Plug wires back on, kick the boxes out, drink a beer.

No reason that should take longer than an hour. 1/2 hour if your motivated.

The only reason you would need to completely remove the headers is if those crap aftermarket gaskets are really stuck to the heads and headers. Then they will need to come off to do some good gasket scraping if needed.

But if the gaskets come off clean, and you can do the little scraping needed from the top, it's a piece of cake job. 4 hrs is criminal theft.
Someone that knows what there talking about! No more then a 1/2 hr job!
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