Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Phastek Performance
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Engine | Drivetrain | Powertrain Technical Discussions > Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 03-21-2012, 06:31 AM   #1
E.T.


 
E.T.'s Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH
Posts: 3,231
How much will gears help 0-60 time?

Not that it is bad now, but I'm just wondering what kind of 0-60 time I can expect to pull by going from stock 3.27 gears to 3.70? (see sig for mods)
__________________

E.T. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2012, 06:45 AM   #2
2011 SS
 
2011 SS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 SS M6, LT's, CAI, SLP LM II's.
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Ok
Posts: 196
Significantly, although you have to be able to put that to the ground, your acceleration is going to be totally different it will be like driving a different car. You need trailering arms toe rods and drag radials to put that down, dont forget though when you start getting traction things start breaking. Now onto what you want to know, guessing by your mods that probably puts you in the 385 rwhp or so if you can drive I can see you putting down a 3.8-4.3, sixty time.
2011 SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2012, 07:02 AM   #3
SixGracing

 
SixGracing's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2SS/RS LS3 A6
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: West Haven, UT
Posts: 790
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2011 SS View Post
Significantly, although you have to be able to put that to the ground, your acceleration is going to be totally different it will be like driving a different car. You need trailering arms toe rods and drag radials to put that down, dont forget though when you start getting traction things start breaking. Now onto what you want to know, guessing by your mods that probably puts you in the 385 rwhp or so if you can drive I can see you putting down a 3.8-4.3, sixty time.
A 3.8 to 4.3 60' time? Serious? Is he driving a bus or a Camaro? Seems like an incredibly slow 60' time. A 2.0' is barely acceptable for a camaro. At least I thought.
__________________
SixGracing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2012, 07:04 AM   #4
IROCanSS
Account Suspended
 
Drives: 89 IROC 350
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Back roads, southern Ohio
Posts: 12,504
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2011 SS View Post
Significantly, although you have to be able to put that to the ground, your acceleration is going to be totally different it will be like driving a different car. You need trailering arms toe rods and drag radials to put that down, dont forget though when you start getting traction things start breaking. Now onto what you want to know, guessing by your mods that probably puts you in the 385 rwhp or so if you can drive I can see you putting down a 3.8-4.3, sixty time.
No way hes 385 rwhp... hes A6 (obvious by the 3.27 rear gear) with intake, catback exhaust and a scanner tune, so with his mods, hes 330-350 rwhp MAX.

He won't come close to 385 without headers, hiflow cats and a real tune... not taking anything away from Ted's tunes, just 385 from an A6 is damn good so it takes a lot to get there!

Furthermore, you dont usually need to worry about breakage on the A6 cars, much less drivetrain stress than on the M6.


OP: I had (HAD) 4.10 gears... it was BLISS untill they exploded. Gears are GREAT on these cars but VERY expensive. Have you priced them yet?
IROCanSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2012, 07:08 AM   #5
MikeOD

 
Drives: 2010 M6 2SS
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: South Windsor, CT
Posts: 1,205
Quote:
Originally Posted by SixGracing View Post
A 3.8 to 4.3 60' time? Serious? Is he driving a bus or a Camaro? Seems like an incredibly slow 60' time. A 2.0' is barely acceptable for a camaro. At least I thought.
He means 0-60 mph, not 60 feet.
__________________

2010 Camaro SS M6. Heads/Cam/Intake/Headers/Exhaust/Suspension
MikeOD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2012, 07:16 AM   #6
scottywheels
 
Drives: 2010 A6 SS/RS
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 527
What kinds of gains have you auto guys seen in the gear swap at the track.? I have gone 1.60 60 ft already with the stock 3.27 gears
__________________
Scott(Retired Navy)(Paralyzed Triathlete)

New Car 99 Camaro SS with Dart 427, F1x, Rossler 210, 9 inch and BS3... scary ride

SOLD
2010 A6 ss/rs White-VORTECH YSI/LPE fuel system/ID 850's/LG Motorsports full Exhaust/Protorque 3400 stall/Livernois Stage 3 Heads/Cam/Bogarts/ Moroso subframes/JRE Rear with 3:70 gears/Aluminium DS/line lock/drag alignment/Suspension/JW Racing 10 pt cage/13.6 psi 719.34 rwhp 558.4 TQ/ Best Pass 1.51 60ft 10.08 136.78 mph JRE Built
scottywheels is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2012, 07:17 AM   #7
SixGracing

 
SixGracing's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2SS/RS LS3 A6
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: West Haven, UT
Posts: 790
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeOD View Post
He means 0-60 mph, not 60 feet.
That makes more sense.
__________________
SixGracing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2012, 07:19 AM   #8
SixGracing

 
SixGracing's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 2SS/RS LS3 A6
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: West Haven, UT
Posts: 790
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottywheels View Post
What kinds of gains have you auto guys seen in the gear swap at the track.? I have gone 1.60 60 ft already with the stock 3.27 gears
That's a tricky question. I think you start running into tire and suspension issues when you start moving up in gears. If you change gearing, you are more than likely going to have to spend money on suspension mods to make the car hook. You might get worse times from the spinning.
__________________
SixGracing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2012, 07:39 AM   #9
2011 SS
 
2011 SS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 SS M6, LT's, CAI, SLP LM II's.
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Ok
Posts: 196
Sorry, I have an M6 so I'm always used to giving advice about what I think my car would be like if I had done said mods, I no clue Autos had 3.27 gears, I'm sorry.
2011 SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2012, 07:41 AM   #10
2011 SS
 
2011 SS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 SS M6, LT's, CAI, SLP LM II's.
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Ok
Posts: 196
Quote:
Originally Posted by SixGracing View Post
A 3.8 to 4.3 60' time? Serious? Is he driving a bus or a Camaro? Seems like an incredibly slow 60' time. A 2.0' is barely acceptable for a camaro. At least I thought.
I meant 0-60 times, and you drive an automatic that may be why you think a 2.0 is barely acceptable, I can't get less than a 2.6 without DR's, but this is my FIRST manual car.
2011 SS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2012, 08:04 AM   #11
E.T.


 
E.T.'s Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH
Posts: 3,231
Yep, I was asking about 0-60, not 60'.

Quote:
Originally Posted by IROCanSS View Post
No way hes 385 rwhp... hes A6 (obvious by the 3.27 rear gear) with intake, catback exhaust and a scanner tune, so with his mods, hes 330-350 rwhp MAX.

He won't come close to 385 without headers, hiflow cats and a real tune... not taking anything away from Ted's tunes, just 385 from an A6 is damn good so it takes a lot to get there!

Furthermore, you dont usually need to worry about breakage on the A6 cars, much less drivetrain stress than on the M6.


OP: I had (HAD) 4.10 gears... it was BLISS untill they exploded. Gears are GREAT on these cars but VERY expensive. Have you priced them yet?
Haven't dyno'd so I can say what I'm putting to the wheels. I know gears aren't going to add any actual HP, but from what I've read, it will make the car feel a lot stronger, and that's what I'm concerned with. It's nice that these care will do 170+, but I'd rather have that seat of the pants feeling when driving around town and staying within legal limits.

I saw that the 3.70s run about 6 or 7 hundred online, but I have a gear/trans shop right around the corner from me and they are working in getting me a quote. I think they said labor would run about 80 bucks an hour.
__________________

E.T. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2012, 08:19 AM   #12
Padre
Only drives on Sundays
 
Padre's Avatar
 
Drives: 11 2SS/RS, Black/Inferno, L99 A6
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Dalton, GA
Posts: 2,416
I saw no gains in my sixty (not 0-60, but it's a good indicator) when I went from 3.27 to 3.45. But I'm sure a bigger gear like 3.73 or 3.91 or 4.10 would make a difference. Personally, I think 3.73's (or 3.70, whichever) are a good all around gear for a bolt-on automatic.

Padre
__________________

The "Heretic": '11 2SS/RS L99 A6 Black/Inferno. Build Journal, Videos
D1SC GT9 JBA-LT = 720/680 | 10.330 @ 133.61, 1.546 sixty... Camaro King at ECS V, Darlington.
Padre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2012, 08:26 AM   #13
scottywheels
 
Drives: 2010 A6 SS/RS
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 527
Quote:
Originally Posted by SixGracing View Post
That's a tricky question. I think you start running into tire and suspension issues when you start moving up in gears. If you change gearing, you are more than likely going to have to spend money on suspension mods to make the car hook. You might get worse times from the spinning.

I dont care about spining, I have a pure slick on the car and suspension.
__________________
Scott(Retired Navy)(Paralyzed Triathlete)

New Car 99 Camaro SS with Dart 427, F1x, Rossler 210, 9 inch and BS3... scary ride

SOLD
2010 A6 ss/rs White-VORTECH YSI/LPE fuel system/ID 850's/LG Motorsports full Exhaust/Protorque 3400 stall/Livernois Stage 3 Heads/Cam/Bogarts/ Moroso subframes/JRE Rear with 3:70 gears/Aluminium DS/line lock/drag alignment/Suspension/JW Racing 10 pt cage/13.6 psi 719.34 rwhp 558.4 TQ/ Best Pass 1.51 60ft 10.08 136.78 mph JRE Built
scottywheels is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 02:56 PM   #14
fldrummer
"Black Ace"
 
fldrummer's Avatar
 
Drives: Supercharged 2010 SS, 2016 Golf R
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 1,281
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2011 SS View Post
I meant 0-60 times, and you drive an automatic that may be why you think a 2.0 is barely acceptable, I can't get less than a 2.6 without DR's, but this is my FIRST manual car.
I've only been to the track once-- before my suspension mods and got a 2.2 60' on all-season tires and 4.10 gears on the first try. Did you ease into the throttle or were you spinning your tires?... Anyway, gears made a night and day difference in the get up and go factor for me--still my favorite mod, to date!
__________________
2010 2SS/RS M6 "Black Ace" - Delivered 6/4/2009
Mods: Forged LS3 (9.8:1 CR), Maggie TVS 2300 SC with OD rear pulley, Custom Comp cam (223/244, .610/.596, 114 LSA), Monster LT1-SC twin-disk clutch, ZL1 drivetrain conversion w/ DSS 1000-HP axles & 1-pc. driveshaft, CAI Inc. intake w/ ADM scoop, XS Power full exhaust (1 7/8" LT headers with 3" off-road pipes), VMAX CNC-ported TB, LSR adjustable sway bars, LPE rear end-links, BMR 1" drop, BMR polyurethane bushings; UMI trailing arms & toe rods. 580 rwhp/566 rwtq (Mustang Dyno, 7.5psi, maxed-out injectors). Built & tuned by Lashway Motorsports.
fldrummer is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Official 1/4 Mile (V8) 2010+ Camaro Fast List Merc Dragstrip and Launch Techniques Discussion 3220 09-26-2016 12:01 PM
DIY: LS3 Camshaft Install (a lot of pictures, may take a moment to load) robertway Camaro DIY & HOW-TO instructions & discussions 272 07-08-2016 10:33 PM
Look what they dropped off at my work for me! Miraclewhip Camaro Photos | Spyshots | Video | Media Gallery 49 09-09-2011 05:35 PM
Camaro Fest 2 Who's GOING????? comm17 California Meets and Events 271 04-14-2011 02:45 PM
Pre-Camaro5 FEST...FREE TUNING & DYNO TIME!! Qwkss V8 Bolt-Ons & Tunes 2 01-27-2010 11:54 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:12 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.