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Old 05-03-2009, 03:40 AM   #1
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Sealed Transmission?? Transmission fluid doesn't need change until 150k miles?

So I was at a local dealer yesterday looking at the Rally Yellow Automatic 2LT they have on display and one of the salesman mentioned something interesting to me. I had popped the hood and was looking inside when he pointed out that there is no dipstick to check the transmission fluid. I didn't search around too extensively but I did not see anything that popped out. The salesman said that the reason for this is because the Camaro has something called a "sealed transmission". He said that the fluids in the transmission are supposed to last up to 150,000 miles but that it might be prudent to ask a dealer to check them at 100,000 miles.

Has anyone heard anything along these lines? I find it really hard to believe that I will never need to add more tranny fluid until 150,000 miles!
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Old 05-03-2009, 05:52 AM   #2
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hhhmmm! Worth looking into but I would imagine there is a level sensor in the tranny to monitor it!
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Old 05-03-2009, 05:55 AM   #3
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... not sure about the Camaro, but my wife's car... a 2000 Lincoln LS... also has no dipstick. It is "sealed" (but ther are drain and fill methods)... the transmission calls for no scheduled maintenance unless you tow and uses a synthetic fluid. 146,600 miles later... perfect.
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Old 05-03-2009, 05:56 AM   #4
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Yeah most transmissions are coming this way now. The only way to check them is a small weap hole on the side of the tranny. The 150k im not sure about tho. From what was posted here its good for the life of the car.
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Old 05-03-2009, 05:58 AM   #5
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Sounds like you check the tranny fluid like you check the oil level on a motorcycle!
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Old 05-03-2009, 06:03 AM   #6
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Um, I check the oil level on my bike witht the dipstick.

Lots of cars have sealed trannies now. No biggy.
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Old 05-03-2009, 06:07 AM   #7
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My 2005 Mustang and 2006 Dodge Charger Daytona RT has no dip stick. I believe mostly all new cars are this way. Need to be checked around 100K miles. Always keep an eye on the floor to see if anything is leaking. The trans. seal under my Dodge leaked two weeks after I purchased it. Still under warr. they fixed it. Yeah now buying a Camaro. Always a Camaro fan, hated when they stopped in 2002. Had 1995, 1998, 2000 and 2002 Camaro before I went to 2003 and 2005 Mustang, now 2006 Charger.
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Old 05-03-2009, 07:24 AM   #8
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Um, I check the oil level on my bike witht the dipstick.

Lots of cars have sealed trannies now. No biggy.

OH! Excuse me.... BMW and Honda motorcycles have the same little peep hole for checking oil levels!
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Old 05-03-2009, 07:40 AM   #9
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OH! Excuse me.... BMW and Honda motorcycles have the same little peep hole for checking oil levels!

Thats kewl.

I buy everything American. Even Motorcycles.
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Old 05-03-2009, 07:43 AM   #10
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I was going to buy a Goldwing back in 2000 but walked in the BMW show room and saw the K1200LT and bought it on the spot......... it helped that the interest rate at the time was .9 and so I really couldn't resist!
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Old 05-03-2009, 07:46 AM   #11
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I have a Harley.

I will ride the rattiest Harley on earth before I buy a foreign bike. And I will drive the rattiest domestic car on earth before I buy an import.
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Old 05-03-2009, 07:49 AM   #12
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Saturn Sky is sealed too. After we got it home I was looking under the hood and couldn't find it. Called the dealer and sure enough no dipstick on the car except when I'm driving.
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Old 05-03-2009, 07:53 AM   #13
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I agree with you on the car thing but the bikes, no can do. After being an MSF instructor for a few years and riding many different bikes along with getting older (wiser), I chose a bike that fits my needs but that doesn't mean I don't like Harley's!
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Old 05-03-2009, 08:03 AM   #14
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My 2005 CTS had this as does my 2009. Requires special procedure to check the level and to add/fill. Must be on hoist, engine running to check. About 3 pages in service manual on change procedure.

Matter of fact I wanted to change the ATF over to synthetic in my 2005 and the Cadi dealer refused to do it saying the factory fill was good for 100,000 miles and does not need to be changed if no problem exists.

I think they are doing this to try to cut down on problems. According to my service manager whom I know well, they have seen a big uptick in trans problems since these quick lubes started selling transmission flush's. The quick lube part time oil jockey sells a the flush to some lady, her trans fails a week later and she is back at the dealer for warranty.
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Old 05-03-2009, 10:05 AM   #15
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my mount has a sealed tranny just had it replaced.. cost me 2300 for a new one.. but it also has 123 on it... it lasted good up untill the last few months...
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Old 05-03-2009, 11:08 AM   #16
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Alot of automatic cars have sealed transmissions. My old 04 Mustang had one and my dad's 01 Mercedes had one.
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Old 05-03-2009, 11:11 AM   #17
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Saturn Sky is sealed too. After we got it home I was looking under the hood and couldn't find it. Called the dealer and sure enough no dipstick on the car except when I'm driving.
hahahahhaha



my four wheeler has this..?
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Old 05-03-2009, 11:38 AM   #18
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I'm not sure there is a car with a "non-sealed" tranny anymore... even my 99 pontiac was sealed. my brothers dodge is, my subaru is, my moms malibu is..... Only cars we have that aren't are my dad's 98 ford pickup and my 1990 metro.
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Old 05-03-2009, 01:07 PM   #19
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I'm pretty sure my 2006 Escape has a dipstick.
I can tell you why they don't have dipsticks: because everyone always over-fills them. If you don't have a leak you won't need to add.
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Old 05-03-2009, 03:58 PM   #20
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^ your partially right... its that and so people dont add the wrong fluid and some people always spill more than they put in... so its kinda like a tranny check... if its leaking it needs to be replaced.. and my moms 08 jeep grand cherokee has a dipstick but that has the 5.7 hemi but her bosses with the v6 doesnt.... FIGuRE THAT ONE OUT... same year.. lol
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Old 05-04-2009, 12:31 PM   #21
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Most transmissions now use Dextron IV fluid which is fully synthetic. It doesn't break down at tempertatures under 270 degrees. Most tranny's never get above 230 degrees so the fluid has been engineered to last for 6 years or 250,000 miles in most cases. GM has been using this fluid for many years and according to our GM Training, many automatic transmissions are considered "Filled For Life". The only thing your service person needs to do is periodically check the fluid level.
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Old 05-04-2009, 12:41 PM   #22
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I think you can check these the same way you check rear differentials. Mostly the only thing you see dipsticks on anymore are trucks.
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Old 05-05-2009, 04:48 AM   #23
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Roger that!!!

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I agree with you on the car thing but the bikes, no can do. After being an MSF instructor for a few years and riding many different bikes along with getting older (wiser), I chose a bike that fits my needs but that doesn't mean I don't like Harley's!

BMW s bike and FJR owner!!! Buy what you like and what fits you best. Love Harleys but just not my type although some of the newer models look very nice.

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Old 05-12-2009, 07:10 PM   #24
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My wife's '07 G5 GT has a sealed tranny and 97k miles on it. I was skeptical as hell when we got the car, but it lasted longer than the tranny in my Denali did.
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Old 05-12-2009, 07:16 PM   #25
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Since the 6L80E is so overbuilt for the stock LS3/L99 torque output it should be OK.

For extreme performance the transmission here is being heavily reworked and they are going to add a dipstick setup as necessary. Too dangerous not being able to check the level with higher pressures being generated.
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