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Old 03-21-2012, 03:35 PM   #1
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Hurst caused 2nd gear grind

Removing of the non factory Hurst short throw shifter in my '12 ss vert was the decision I have made! NO more grinding no more miss shifts. And it feels much more solid and feels like it belongs. If anyone has installed the hurst shifter and had been getting grinding than immediately take it out.imo
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Old 03-21-2012, 03:38 PM   #2
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Old 03-21-2012, 06:25 PM   #3
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Now I'm a little confused. I thought the second gear grind was always there and the shorter throws just enhanced the grind because of faster shifting. Also did you miss gears a lot with the hurst?
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Old 03-21-2012, 06:29 PM   #4
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I really don't understand what you're trying to say or what you did to fix it. Confused.
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Old 03-21-2012, 06:52 PM   #5
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I think he put it back to stock
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Old 03-21-2012, 06:57 PM   #6
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Old 03-21-2012, 07:20 PM   #7
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Exactly why I ordered my '12 with the base shifter. The last thing the Tremec likes is faster shifts from a shorter throw. And really, the base shifter is a pretty short throw already. Anyone that doesn't think so, never drove anything from the 60s/70s where the shifts were a full arm reach. I had a Chevelle with an M22 Rock Crusher, it was like violently rowing a boat.

The ones I've driven with the Hurst, if I try to shift fast... too notchy and grindy for my taste. I've got use to the base shifter that is smoother.
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Old 03-21-2012, 07:26 PM   #8
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WOT shifts using my aftermarket Hurst shifter without any problems sine August 09
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:16 PM   #9
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The way the Hurst is put together with the shift lever connected to the upper stick attachment with two littel hex screws, Problems waiting to happen, Like grinding, wobbel from left two right. flimzy.
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:31 PM   #10
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The factory shift lever is connected to the upper stick by moulded rubber. That is better than metal to metal held together with two bolts? They both work, but neither have anything to do with gears grinding or wobble.
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Old 03-22-2012, 06:41 AM   #11
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Sorry for the confusion, I created a post a while back listing my constant grinding and mis shifts with the hurst shorty in my SS. After removing the shifter I replaced it back to stock and you can immediately tell the difference. The hurst did feel very flimsy IMO and just felt cheap. In conclusion maybe it only happens in the convertibles but I deffinitely don't recommend this mod.
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Old 03-22-2012, 06:46 AM   #12
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I love my Hurst. Been in since August 2009 as well. Not flimsy and cheap at all. I do gat a grind from time to time but 10 times out of 10, its my fault... not the tranny or shifters.

I am glad youre happy with the OEM shifter, I think it was spongy and I had way more missed shifts in the month I had the OEM than I have since. Different strokes for different folks I suppose.
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Old 03-22-2012, 06:47 AM   #13
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Sorry for not clarifying I have put the oem hurst back in *
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Old 03-22-2012, 06:47 AM   #14
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I love my Hurst. Been in since August 2009 as well. Not flimsy and cheap at all. I do gat a grind from time to time but 10 times out of 10, its my fault... not the tranny or shifters.

I am glad youre happy with the OEM shifter, I think it was spongy and I had way more missed shifts in the month I had the OEM than I have since. Different strokes for different folks I suppose.
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Old 03-22-2012, 07:19 AM   #15
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so you got the factory hurst and replaced it with an aftermarket hurst? you both like and dislike the hurst then?
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I dislike the non factory
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Old 03-22-2012, 11:56 AM   #17
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The aftermarket Hurst has a 44% reduction vs. a 22% reduction on the factory Hurst. Several people have complained about the aftermarket Hurst being to much of a reduction.

My question is why on earth did you put the aftermarket Hurst in if you got the factory Hurst?

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Old 03-22-2012, 11:59 AM   #18
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Well at first it was for the look.
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Old 03-22-2012, 03:38 PM   #19
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The way the Hurst is put together with the shift lever connected to the upper stick attachment with two littel hex screws, Problems waiting to happen, Like grinding, wobbel from left two right. flimzy.


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for the OP, I did a poll seeing what shifter people who experienced 2nd gear grind had

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203104

the results are pretty much even between stock, OEM Hurst, Hurst, other aftermarket
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Old 03-22-2012, 04:18 PM   #21
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With the aftermarket Hurst with a 44% shorter throw, you should get quicker shifts with a normal pull of the stick, so you don't have to yank it hard and fast to get quicker shifts. Can't to try mine out next week, I'll let you all know how it goes.
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I know what you are talking about. I didn't have full throttle 1-2 grind until the hurst, just have to give a slight hesitation for the synchro to do its job and its OK.
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Old 03-27-2012, 10:17 PM   #23
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The way the Hurst is put together with the shift lever connected to the upper stick attachment with two littel hex screws, Problems waiting to happen, Like grinding, wobbel from left two right. flimzy.
This has been EXACTLY the same way almost all Hurst manual shifters have been constructed since the early 60's. And hasn't been a problem for close to 50 years. Many Hurst shifters run an upper stick that is several feet in length and with all that leverage still no problems. Any first gen Camaro owners having problems with the stick connecting bolts on their Hurst shifter?...


... didn't think so.
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This has been EXACTLY the same way almost all Hurst manual shifters have been constructed since the early 60's. And hasn't been a problem for close to 50 years. Many Hurst shifters run an upper stick that is several feet in length and with all that leverage still no problems. Any first gen Camaro owners having problems with the stick connecting bolts on their Hurst shifter?...


... didn't think so.
Ignore the posts from this dude and techinny. They have been trolling and spreading this BS in several forums here on C5.

Nothing wrong with the design and I agree with your assessment as I have had several Hurst shifters in many cars over the years without issue.

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