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Old 03-22-2012, 12:35 PM   #1
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Looking for an aggresive cam setup thats just under the G6X3

Hey guys!
I have been bouncing around the idea of going with the G6X3 cam but I kinda didnít want to run the biggest badest cam out there. This car will NOT be a daily driver once the cam install is done.

Iím pretty set on going through a local tuner here in socal, because i like to be close to mine. So I will probably go with either a custom grind or bring a kit to him.

So I was wondering what cam specs/cam kits you would recommend for a stage just under the G6X3, I know LG doesnít release specs on their cams so it might be hard to give me actual specs.

So far the only cam I think that falls in that category just under the G6X3 in power level is the Vengeance stage lll cam (231/243 .614/.6.24, 115+3) Iím assuming this because it makes just a little less in power then the G6X3. ANY OTHERS?

So any recommendation on cams that are still aggressive but not the biggest and badest welcome!! Thanks guys! (specís preferred)
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Old 03-22-2012, 01:07 PM   #2
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I would call cartek, they have the badest stock cube N/A 6 speed out there! I am shure they can get you what you want, biggest does not mean fastest, the hole thing has to work together or its just a over cammed pig!
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Old 03-22-2012, 05:16 PM   #3
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You should put the Night fury cam from Lethal Racing in your list, It sounds badass and makes good power too!
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TSP 229-236 or 231-236 they both make great power!! I also like the LPE GT9 cam!!
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Old 03-22-2012, 06:19 PM   #6
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Old 03-22-2012, 06:35 PM   #7
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Old 03-22-2012, 07:41 PM   #8
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I would call cartek, they have the badest stock cube N/A 6 speed out there! I am shure they can get you what you want, biggest does not mean fastest, the hole thing has to work together or its just a over cammed pig!
The cam in that car is likely even bigger than the g6x3.

According to them they had to fly cut. Which is not required on the g6x3.

From the looks of it so far the g6x3 and carteks large cammed cars are indeed the fastest on the track. None of the smaller cammed cars have even came close so far.

One will run into problems with a large cam if they dont run enough compression...this will make them even lazier down low. LG recommends in the neighborhood of 11.5.1 compression on the g6x3 h/c builds.
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Hey guys!
I have been bouncing around the idea of going with the G6X3 cam but I kinda didnít want to run the biggest badest cam out there. This car will NOT be a daily driver once the cam install is done.

Iím pretty set on going through a local tuner here in socal, because i like to be close to mine. So I will probably go with either a custom grind or bring a kit to him.

So I was wondering what cam specs/cam kits you would recommend for a stage just under the G6X3, I know LG doesnít release specs on their cams so it might be hard to give me actual specs.

So far the only cam I think that falls in that category just under the G6X3 in power level is the Vengeance stage lll cam (231/243 .614/.6.24, 115+3) Iím assuming this because it makes just a little less in power then the G6X3. ANY OTHERS?

So any recommendation on cams that are still aggressive but not the biggest and badest welcome!! Thanks guys! (specís preferred)


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Old 03-22-2012, 07:49 PM   #10
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Hey guys!
I have been bouncing around the idea of going with the G6X3 cam but I kinda didn’t want to run the biggest badest cam out there. This car will NOT be a daily driver once the cam install is done.

I’m pretty set on going through a local tuner here in socal, because i like to be close to mine. So I will probably go with either a custom grind or bring a kit to him.

So I was wondering what cam specs/cam kits you would recommend for a stage just under the G6X3, I know LG doesn’t release specs on their cams so it might be hard to give me actual specs.

So far the only cam I think that falls in that category just under the G6X3 in power level is the Vengeance stage lll cam (231/243 .614/.6.24, 115+3) I’m assuming this because it makes just a little less in power then the G6X3. ANY OTHERS?

So any recommendation on cams that are still aggressive but not the biggest and badest welcome!! Thanks guys! (spec’s preferred)
I would go with the TSP 231/236. That cam was my second choice under the g6x3.

Very drive-able and makes ~480rwhp.

My third choice would be the JRE 470hp cam.
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Old 03-22-2012, 08:19 PM   #11
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I love the 231-236 cam, turns heads everywhere I go and just flat out performs!! I've seen them make from 470-500 and 480/454 with 1 3/4 inch headers is great!! I can't wait to see 490/460 with the 1 7/8 stainless power!! Plus I'm hoping the 3.91's make the car feel that much torquier and put me in the powerband sooner!!
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Old 03-22-2012, 09:16 PM   #12
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Couple things.

Your idle tone will change with the A/C active

Do not choose your cam based on how it sounds. Have your tuner make it sound like you want it.

You dont have to go supersize to get good performance.

The larger cam you install, the more you lose off the line and the larger stall you'd need.......and budget for gears to re-coop that light to light fun.

I like the LG cams. I like the 231/236 TSP cam. Id go with the 231/236 on a 112 LSA. You'll still go real fast. You'll have a little lower number on your dyno sheet ( about 10-15 less), and have slightly better drivability.

Add a FAST 102. No additional stress on the valve springs, no low end driving issues, and gain the RWHP you lost with the smaller cam.

A couple years ago, a 23x cam used to be huge. Now its like the norm.
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Old 03-22-2012, 09:18 PM   #13
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You should put the Night fury cam from Lethal Racing in your list, It sounds badass and makes good power too!
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Old 03-23-2012, 12:17 AM   #15
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I agree with everyone on here and just installed the TSP 231/236 cam with 112 LSA. The cam is bad A! I'll include a video so you can hear it on the dyno. It's agressive but does not kill the driveablity.

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You can always build your own "custom cam" through comp cams. I really get tired of the "our cams are super secret squirrel" grinds......Get a 'custom' cam from only us...because ours are 'special.' No one has reinvented the wheel here. There are only a few companies that grind cams. All these special super custom cams come from these manufacturers. Call Comp.....browse their mast lobe catalogue.....they have a cam sheet. What I did was, talk to multiple vendors, shops, etc. Took their ideas/recommendations and decided what would work best for me......called Comp Cams, discussed it with them and ordered my own 'custom cam.'
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You can always build your own "custom cam" through comp cams. I really get tired of the "our cams are super secret squirrel" grinds......Get a 'custom' cam from only us...because ours are 'special.' '
but its not like you are going to make a cam any better or even worse. its all the same stuff if you ask me. so why not just use a cam that is already made to work. you know it will work you see people using them..


in the end cams will sound the same(you know what i mean by that ), and make same power.with right tuner of course.

every shop has there 470-480WHP cam. if you look at numbers they are all making.
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There are a lot of great cams out there but they are all so close your splitting Hairs.

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Checkout the TSP 231/236 camshaft. It has good p/v clearance & was developed on our in house engine dyno test cell using a brand new LS3 engine. By testing many different camshaft configurations we were able to build a complete line of camshafts based on power output across the board & actually see dyno gains next other camshafts in the same motor.

I don't believe any other vendor on camaro5 has ever done testing anywhere near this. The thing is when you test 40+ camshafts side by side on a engine you get a good idea of what works best. When a shop goes and installs a camshaft in one car & moves on to the next car they never actually see detailed side by side camshaft data. The engine dyno is the only way to get truely acurrate side by side camshaft data. That's exactly the reason we invested nearly $100,000 in a dyno test cell.

Texas Speed is the largest comp cams LS camshaft seller in the world & we typcially stock close to 300 camshafts in stock in our brand new 25,000 sq ft facility.

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Thank you so much for all the advice guys!!

So it seems that the tsp 231 / 236 in kinda the favorit, but the jre 470 and night fury sound like great choices as well!

Also what do you guys think of an under drive pully? my tuner how i trust and take a lot of advice from doesn’t really recommend one. i know it free's up some power at the expense of less power to you ac ect.. but do you know why he would not recommend one?
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underdrive is really a personal preference thing. In Texas, I wouldn't do it because I want my AC to blow ice lol.

I would look into the JRE470 because Ted can tune it for you, and you can get quick re-tunes with any upgrades you buy from him. This is the direction I'm leaning for my motor too.
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Thank you so much for all the advice guys!!

So it seems that the tsp 231 / 236 in kinda the favorit, but the jre 470 and night fury sound like great choices as well!

Also what do you guys think of an under drive pully? my tuner how i trust and take a lot of advice from doesn’t really recommend one. i know it free's up some power at the expense of less power to you ac ect.. but do you know why he would not recommend one?
I have a 25 % UD pulley in hot SC with no issues. Remember with the cam you want - the idle will be at about 850 rpm. The stock idle is 550 - 600. So my accessories spin at about the same speed stock vs. cam w/ UD pulley.
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It's really up to you, base it off of the supporting bolt ons that you are going to purchase later and with what you already have. If you plan on getting prc heads down the road it's a no brainer. If you plan on getting a blower or turbo then get boost friendly cam. The tsp cam works great on motor or spray but not the best for a blown or turbo'd combo!! That's what you really have to take in to consideration. From the sound of it you are going n/a atleast that is the cam choices you are looking at. Don't get it bc it's choppy and sounds cool get it to work with your combo!!
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but its not like you are going to make a cam any better or even worse. its all the same stuff if you ask me. so why not just use a cam that is already made to work. you know it will work you see people using them..


in the end cams will sound the same(you know what i mean by that ), and make same power.with right tuner of course.

every shop has there 470-480WHP cam. if you look at numbers they are all making.
That was the point I was trying to make. Its those who have 'secret' grinds that annoy me.
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After researching cams for a year I went with the G6x3..... too many people complained after a mild cam that they wish they went bigger. I say, go big or go home!!!! Love my G6x3
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