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Old 03-23-2012, 11:02 PM   #1
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ZL1 Engine rework Holdup?

Is the ZL1 broke or is it being updated? I was in a ZL1 news blog and heard that the ZL1 engine is being reworked to put out over 650 or more horses to go against the Mustang GT500. Just a rumor and am sure GM doesnt want Ford to know about it if true. So lets just keep this to ourselves...ok?
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Old 03-23-2012, 11:07 PM   #2
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Is the ZL1 broke or is it being updated? I was in a ZL1 news blog and heard that the ZL1 engine is being reworked to put out over 650 or more horses to go against the Mustang GT500. Just a rumor and am sure GM doesnt want Ford to know about it if true. So lets just keep this to ourselves...ok?
I doubt at this point of the game, they change HP. Then so many other things get affected.

The GM Engineers want to make sure this car is perfect. And I'm sure we will be happy they do so.
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Old 03-23-2012, 11:12 PM   #3
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Yeh...but keep in mind the ZL1 was supposed to be the host of the party for GM, now with the Mustang GT500 crashing the party before it even starts. GM may just be forced to raise the stakes. Plus adding 650 hp probably wont change much else after all those who buy will probably be adding more power anyway. Its expected.
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Old 03-23-2012, 11:19 PM   #4
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Is the ZL1 broke or is it being updated? I was in a ZL1 news blog and heard that the ZL1 engine is being reworked to put out over 650 or more horses to go against the Mustang GT500. Just a rumor and am sure GM doesnt want Ford to know about it if true. So lets just keep this to ourselves...ok?
No, it is true! Chevy is adding twin turbos to the upgraded 2.3 liter supercharger and converting it to four wheel drive too. It will be closer to 1200HP than 650HP. Plus they added a 10 year 250,000 mi. drivetrain warranty to boot.
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I heard they're adding a flux capacitor that will allow the ZL1 to transform into a "Bumblebee" type autobot and beat the GT500 into submission.
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The Mustang having more HP wouldn't keep me from buying a ZL1, I would be content with the 580HP.
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Old 03-23-2012, 11:28 PM   #7
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580 HP is a shit load......

Would be great if they were bumping it up.......but I doubt it severely
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Old 03-24-2012, 12:29 AM   #8
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Wishful thinking. What I really want to see are specs for the 2013 model year.
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Old 03-24-2012, 12:46 AM   #9
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With the ZL1 you get the suspension and road course handling that is not simply beat by Ford adding more horspower to the GT500. The GT500 is nice however I dont think it is even in the same league as the ZL1. Even if the ZL1 had less horsepower than 580 I would still take it over a Mustang GT500....Its a 5th Gen Camaro after all, it just looks much more modern then the Mustang to me, Oh and what is under the hood and undercarriage matches the modern lines of this beautiful car...
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Old 03-24-2012, 11:23 AM   #10
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No, it is true! Chevy is adding twin turbos to the upgraded 2.3 liter supercharger and converting it to four wheel drive too. It will be closer to 1200HP than 650HP. Plus they added a 10 year 250,000 mi. drivetrain warranty to boot.

And all I wanted was a Nav system!
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Old 03-24-2012, 12:16 PM   #11
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Oh I heard GM is just giving up. The are taking all the ZL1s and just putting them in car crushers.
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Old 03-24-2012, 12:20 PM   #12
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All the speculation about this car is more exciting than actually getting one. I love this. I'm going to be bored once I get the car.
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All the speculation about this car is more exciting than actually getting one. I love this. I'm going to be bored once I get the car.


Yea but when we finally get them it will be like having cake and eating it too
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I highly doubt that.....
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Old 03-24-2012, 12:57 PM   #15
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And all I wanted was a Nav system!
You got one, the blue button on the mirror sends directions to my car every time I ask
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I heard they're adding a flux capacitor that will allow the ZL1 to transform into a "Bumblebee" type autobot and beat the GT500 into submission.
And travel through space and time at will!!
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All the speculation about this car is more exciting than actually getting one. I love this. I'm going to be bored once I get the car.
It is entertaining. At least you'll have a car? What will I do on C5 for fun after you guys get your cars?
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It is entertaining. At least you'll have a car? What will I do on C5 for fun after you guys get your cars?
Trade your boss in lol!
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No, it is true! Chevy is adding twin turbos to the upgraded 2.3 liter supercharger and converting it to four wheel drive too. It will be closer to 1200HP than 650HP. Plus they added a 10 year 250,000 mi. drivetrain warranty to boot.
And cutting the curb weight by 1630 lbs while they do so
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LOL, YellowGTO!!! I am thinking the same thing...

There's no way they're holding up the car for this. It would be too expensive and I doubt GM would be making any money unless they changed thd prices they already announced.

No way - but I do wish they would get closer, but it still doesn't change my mind
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Because of the issue this year which has prevented its release, I would suspect a little more HP in 2013. Not as much as the 638 in Corvette, but I could see 600 horsepower.
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You got one, the blue button on the mirror sends directions to my car every time I ask
no, a real one...
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no, a real one...
Agreed, turn-by-turn directions are kind of a joke compared to actual video map based navigation. Never liked using the system on the '10 SS.
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I heard the actual production version of the 2013 GT500 is going to have 700 horsepower versus the 650 they list on all their literature.

Guys, as much as we might like the ZL1 to be delivered with more HP, the reality is that it is not going to happen. The numbers are the numbers as much as some seem to think otherwise.

As it has been pointed out many, many times, the ZL1 has been engineered as a package and throwing more power at the car without adjustments in other areas is not logical. Then you have the added expense involved in making such a change. As far as I know, the MSRP of the ZL1 has not been adjusted and the official website still lists 580 as the horsepower.

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