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Old 04-02-2012, 01:48 PM   #701
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To all the Magnetic Ride zealots: how do you explain that this Camaro circuit monster doesn't have it?
I'm with 'monkey' on this one... I believe that was even part of the release somewhere, when referring to the new shocks. I don't think that's a bad thing, considering it seems to me the circuit is where 1LE is supposed to be in it's regime. It's hard to get a good blend of both, without getting too expensive.

Regarding MRC III - I'm more starting to believe this is being reserved for a yet announced model. 1LE is the Track Pack for SS, and I believe MRC III is just too valuable and useful to be restricted to one model only, in CAMARO's lineup. Anyways - MRC III is there to make CAMARO is best most reasonable compromise between track car and GT car. There have already been multiple reviewer comments complementing how well it rides off the track in the correct mode while really going around the track at a super-high level.

I think it would've required too many resources and ultimately end up costing too much to make into 1LE, given the way I look at the option. It would've been priced-out of range to keep it competitive (price-wise) and, again - I now subscribe to the theory this may not be the last update to the line that we see. THAT'S where I see MRC III making another appearance.

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Old 04-02-2012, 03:16 PM   #702
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I understand the MRC being too expensive for a track package, but can I throw a temper tandrum and stomp my foot like a teenage girl that just hit puberty for not getting the ZL1 brakes?

And before someone gets offended. I'm just joking around and being real nit picky. I can't wait to see the 1LE.
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Old 04-02-2012, 03:24 PM   #703
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Do want. I'll take mine in 1SS trim, non-RS, no sunroof or fancy infotainment please. Make it summit white for me. Hell, the original 1LE didn't even have A/C.
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:44 PM   #704
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Does anyone know if the 1LE is going to appear at the New York Auto Show in April?
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Old 04-02-2012, 09:21 PM   #705
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I too would like to know why the 1le didn't receive the ZL1 brakes? Or will they be an option?

I see Fbodfather, you are following this thread, care to comment on this?
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Old 04-02-2012, 09:24 PM   #706
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I too would like to know why the 1le didn't receive the ZL1 brakes? Or will they be an option?

I see Fbodfather, you are following this thread, care to comment on this?
MS3DALE mentioned that 1LE brakes are upgraded versions of the stock ss stuff. At least that's what he sees in the system
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Old 04-02-2012, 09:25 PM   #707
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Old 04-02-2012, 09:47 PM   #708
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I too would like to know why the 1le didn't receive the ZL1 brakes? Or will they be an option?

I see Fbodfather, you are following this thread, care to comment on this?
Because the Z28 will. My guess.
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Old 04-02-2012, 09:53 PM   #709
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Because the Z28 will. My guess.
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Old 04-03-2012, 12:34 PM   #710
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I too would like to know why the 1le didn't receive the ZL1 brakes? Or will they be an option?

I see Fbodfather, you are following this thread, care to comment on this?
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Old 04-03-2012, 12:42 PM   #711
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It was my understanding the standard 4-pots were pretty darn good already...
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Old 04-03-2012, 01:52 PM   #712
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I am just seeing that the brakes are red painted calipers, not necessarily any larger? They better be though, after the clutch, the SS brakes are the weakest component in my opinion. Speaking of the clutch, is that not any different either??
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The 1LE shown at SEMA had what appear to be CTS-V / ZL1 brakes.

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It was my understanding the standard 4-pots were pretty darn good already...
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The SS four pots are quite good, however for 20 lap sessions run hard they are not as consistent as the six pots.
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:50 PM   #716
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While I'd never in a million years pay it -- and frankly, thumb my nose at those who do...I can't blame the dealer. As business cases go - it's a good one...

Lose a few hundred dollars waiting just a little longer for that sucker who'll come by and pay an extra 10,000 for a car.
These people are your friend, some get there cars at dealer invoice because others pay $10k over MSRP, just a theory.
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Old 04-03-2012, 06:12 PM   #717
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I made a comment about no recaros, and all this talk about no mrc and no ZL1 brakes. I guess for a car less than $40k with the upgraded info system and the rest, you can't have it all. I just saw a Camaro SS A6 on the lot today with the RS package and ground kit for $43k. You can always upgrade the brakes, like us G8ers.
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Old 04-03-2012, 07:31 PM   #718
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At this point I will probably Be ordering a 1le in the fall.
So you guys need to stop talking about a possible Z28. Just another reason for me to hold off another year.
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Old 04-03-2012, 10:23 PM   #719
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Inside, the 1LE package incorporates the ZL1’s flat-bottom steering wheel, trimmed in sueded-microfiber and designed for easier heel-and-toe driving on the racetrack. The quick-acting, short-throw shifter from the ZL1 is also trimmed in sueded microfiber.
Is the sueded-microfiber going to be standard or optional like on the ZL1?

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I like the exterior/performance changes to the car, but I am not sure I like any of the styling other than the black wheels.

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Old 04-03-2012, 11:05 PM   #720
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I too would like to know why the 1le didn't receive the ZL1 brakes? Or will they be an option?

I see Fbodfather, you are following this thread, care to comment on this?

we could throw "all kinds of stuff" on the car - but that also increases the price.

Remember - the 1LE still has Brembo Brakes - and I think people will be pleasantly surprised at the job Mark Dickens and company have put into the
1LE......


If you really want the ZL1 brakes, we do have a Chevrolet Performance Catalogue with all kinds of 'goodies' to select from.......

This is an affordable car that will shock many and be a pleasant surprise to our Camaro enthusiasts.......
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Old 04-03-2012, 11:19 PM   #721
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we could throw "all kinds of stuff" on the car - but that also increases the price.

Remember - the 1LE still has Brembo Brakes - and I think people will be pleasantly surprised at the job Mark Dickens and company have put into the
1LE......


If you really want the ZL1 brakes, we do have a Chevrolet Performance Catalogue with all kinds of 'goodies' to select from.......

This is an affordable car that will shock many and be a pleasant surprise to our Camaro enthusiasts.......

This is something I was thinking about today. Get either a 1SS/RS or 1LE/1SS/RS then from there mod the crap out of it even more.
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Old 04-04-2012, 08:44 AM   #722
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Hey Fbodfather, what's the word on why they have two different wheel sizes but the same size tire front to rear? Glad they are making this car and looking forward to things to come.
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Hey Fbodfather, what's the word on why they have two different wheel sizes but the same size tire front to rear? Glad they are making this car and looking forward to things to come.
My guess is that's probably a typo since the car is suppose to have ZL1 Wheels, which has different tires sizes. At least that is my guess. Tires I'm not sure I want to know the price of.
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Old 04-04-2012, 10:34 AM   #724
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i don't care for the black hood.
plus..um Boss mustangs had black hoods, right?
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Old 04-04-2012, 10:36 AM   #725
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My guess is that's probably a typo since the car is suppose to have ZL1 Wheels, which has different tires sizes. At least that is my guess. Tires I'm not sure I want to know the price of.
That would be interesting, considering how they worded it

"285/35ZR20 Goodyear Eagle Supercar G:2 tires front and rear (identical to the front tires for ZL1)"

My guess is that the F/R wheels aren't interchangeable due to size, offset, etc. and that they're just re-using existing tech instead of creating one-offs and just using a square tire setup.
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