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Old 05-15-2012, 10:04 AM   #901
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this is not the z28 the 1le is a package from older camaros like the early 70s i think i cant remember but
'88 it started and only 4 were produced

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Old 06-05-2012, 04:04 PM   #902
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The 1LE option is a track ready car of the showroom floor with the hardware and coolers to make it reliable lap after lap. Buy a HD differential, drive and half shafts in the aftermarket with installation and you'll be stealing to get it for less for less than $9,000. It is standard on the 1LE. A 5th Gen with the 1LE option is the Deal of the Century.
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The 1LE option is a track ready car of the showroom floor with the hardware and coolers to make it reliable lap after lap. Buy a HD differential, drive and half shafts in the aftermarket with installation and you'll be stealing to get it for less for less than $9,000. It is standard on the 1LE. A 5th Gen with the 1LE option is the Deal of the Century.
I agree for the most part, but it depends on how strong the different half shafts will be. You also have to look at the competition. The mustang track pack costs only $2500.
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Old 06-05-2012, 06:21 PM   #904
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I ordered the 1LE 2SS/RS with NPP. The order was submitted but I found out today that the 1LE order is restricted right now.

This car will be my daily driver and unfotunatly it will be sitting outside because I don't have enough garage space. A 1LE 2ss/RS with NPP are options that the ZL1 comes with standard. Nav and sunroof are an option even on the ZL1, but I didn't opt for Nav because technology advances quickly and the nav system will quickly become dated. Plus who wants to pay to constantly upgrade the maps. I rather use my Garmin or Smartphone which will have constant current maps at no extra cost. I didn't get a sunroof because I never use it anyways in the car I have in the past plus it adds weight and sacrifices a little rigidity. Plus your most likely to have less head room especially when your wearing a helmet. I got the RS package because I had to have the HID with the Halo lights, it really makes the car pop and the HID will help you better a night when your racing around. I would of got the 1SS over the 2SS, because I like everything bare bones, but I like having the nostalgic 4 pack gauges. Being a daily I guess the rear parking camera helps out too because of limited visibility especially in the C pillars. Someone said it best before that the visibility is like a Panzer Tank. For some they would also want the HUD, which it does help in some racing applications. For serious racing, come on, todays cars are way too big and heavy. I remember when people were complaining back in the day that the 4th Gen Camaro was way too heavy, and that car weighted in at 3400lbs compare to the 5 gen 5000+ lbs. I'm getting this camaro for the image, looks and feel considering it's just going to be a daily for me.

Oh and the NPP, you can pull a fuse or get a aftermarket mild to wild switch to have the baffles opened up all the time and you'll have an exhaust note that's way better than the stock exhuast which on all pony cars these days are way too muted. It's embarasing the my C63 sounds like how a proper American muscle car should. I'm estimating that my build will come in at $44k at the highest. If you add NAV and Sunroof it'll probably kick the price up to $47-48k. which is close to the ZL1 territory, but remember right now a lot of dealer are marking up the Zl1 to stratospheric prices.
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Old 06-05-2012, 06:34 PM   #905
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I agree for the most part, but it depends on how strong the different half shafts will be. You also have to look at the competition. The mustang track pack costs only $2500.
I would take a guess the shafts and diff are good to at least 800 RWHP.

I am not sure about it, but I don't think the Mustang Track Package comes with a rear Brembos or a dif cooler or a tranny cooler. Maybe a Mustang guy can fill in the blanks here.
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Old 06-05-2012, 06:43 PM   #906
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I agree for the most part, but it depends on how strong the different half shafts will be. You also have to look at the competition. The mustang track pack costs only $2500.
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I ordered the 1LE 2SS/RS with NPP. The order was submitted but I found out today that the 1LE order is restricted right now.

This car will be my daily driver and unfotunatly it will be sitting outside because I don't have enough garage space. A 1LE 2ss/RS with NPP are options that the ZL1 comes with standard. Nav and sunroof are an option even on the ZL1, but I didn't opt for Nav because technology advances quickly and the nav system will quickly become dated. Plus who wants to pay to constantly upgrade the maps. I rather use my Garmin or Smartphone which will have constant current maps at no extra cost. I didn't get a sunroof because I never use it anyways in the car I have in the past plus it adds weight and sacrifices a little rigidity. Plus your most likely to have less head room especially when your wearing a helmet. I got the RS package because I had to have the HID with the Halo lights, it really makes the car pop and the HID will help you better a night when your racing around. I would of got the 1SS over the 2SS, because I like everything bare bones, but I like having the nostalgic 4 pack gauges. Being a daily I guess the rear parking camera helps out too because of limited visibility especially in the C pillars. Someone said it best before that the visibility is like a Panzer Tank. For some they would also want the HUD, which it does help in some racing applications. For serious racing, come on, todays cars are way too big and heavy. I remember when people were complaining back in the day that the 4th Gen Camaro was way too heavy, and that car weighted in at 3400lbs compare to the 5 gen 5000+ lbs. I'm getting this camaro for the image, looks and feel considering it's just going to be a daily for me.

Oh and the NPP, you can pull a fuse or get a aftermarket mild to wild switch to have the baffles opened up all the time and you'll have an exhaust note that's way better than the stock exhuast which on all pony cars these days are way too muted. It's embarasing the my C63 sounds like how a proper American muscle car should. I'm estimating that my build will come in at $44k at the highest. If you add NAV and Sunroof it'll probably kick the price up to $47-48k. which is close to the ZL1 territory, but remember right now a lot of dealer are marking up the Zl1 to stratospheric prices.
Your point on the sunroof is well taken. I am average in height and my helmet bangs on the headliner in sunroof equipped 5th Gens. Then there is the added weight in the worst possible spot...
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't see mention of an upgraded differential or a differential cooler.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't see mention of an upgraded differential or a differential cooler.
On the 1LE or stang?

I didn't see any mention of upgraded differential or differential cooler on the 1LE either.

Mustang comes with torsen differential.
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Old 06-05-2012, 09:11 PM   #909
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i would love to have the back half of the car the rear end, tires, rims and suspension components. sounds like a nice option if you cant afford the ZL1
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Old 06-05-2012, 09:19 PM   #910
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On the 1LE or stang?

I didn't see any mention of upgraded differential or differential cooler on the 1LE either.

Mustang comes with torsen differential.
I'm talking about the 1LE.
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Old 06-05-2012, 09:46 PM   #911
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I like the wheels and front spoiler otherwise its too much money...
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Old 06-06-2012, 05:18 AM   #912
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I like the wheels and front spoiler otherwise its too much money...
To build a comparable SS, you will spend as much if not more. For the 3:91 gear ratio and wheels you could easily spend 5-7k. Not to mention the transmission, tranny cooler, suspension parts, ZL1 axles, and front lip spoiler. Add in NPP and I save money in the long run!

Add ZL1 side skirts, proper width rear tires, and a CAI and I am happy for a long time... Atleast until break-in and long enough to feel comfortable voiding the warranty for LTs and a tune.
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Old 06-06-2012, 06:19 AM   #913
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This is being called a "track ready" car but it has the same brakes as any SS.

How could you design a supposed purpose-built package for the track and not beef up the brakes?

To me, it seems to just miss on the appearance front, and just miss on the mechanicals.

Oh yeah, misses on the name too.
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:06 PM   #914
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I ask honestly as I do not currently own one, but are the current Brembos not up for the task? I hear nothing but good things about them. Do they need to be upgraded based on the same horsepower. If there were a bump in power sure but without that they should be adequate.... Am I wrong?
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:25 PM   #915
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I ask honestly as I do not currently own one, but are the current Brembos not up for the task? I hear nothing but good things about them. Do they need to be upgraded based on the same horsepower. If there were a bump in power sure but without that they should be adequate.... Am I wrong?
The Brembos work great, stop the car faster than the others in it's class. If you planned to do some serious racing in the car. As in hours of racing then you might want to upgrade, but I have read reviews of people saying they work great for several laps.
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:41 PM   #916
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This car looks and sounds effin lovely cant wait to see some footage of it in the future
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Old 06-07-2012, 09:08 AM   #917
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I ask honestly as I do not currently own one, but are the current Brembos not up for the task? I hear nothing but good things about them. Do they need to be upgraded based on the same horsepower. If there were a bump in power sure but without that they should be adequate.... Am I wrong?
The stock brake fluid boils before the pads fade.
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Old 06-07-2012, 09:38 AM   #918
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I agree for the most part, but it depends on how strong the different half shafts will be. You also have to look at the competition. The mustang track pack costs only $2500.
Seems to me, the standard FE4 suspension on the 2012 Camaro is fairly equivelent to the track pac on the Mustang and it's standard on 2012 SSs. I understand the Mustang track pack consists of Brembo brakes, larger wheels and tires (19"), an oil cooler, 3:73 gears and the torsen differential. The Boss 302 is a suspension upgrade to the basic Mustang and the cost of that package is way more than $2500 and from what we understand now, the 1LE will be a fairly good competitor to the Boss 302. We'll have to wait to see.
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:17 AM   #919
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Do you think the chevy body kit will work on the 1LE Camaro?
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Do you think the chevy body kit will work on the 1LE Camaro?
You'd have to remove the front splitter for the front extension,and you might run into issues with the rear if you order the dual-mode exhaust because of the quad outlets.
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:48 AM   #921
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This is being called a "track ready" car but it has the same brakes as any SS.

How could you design a supposed purpose-built package for the track and not beef up the brakes?

To me, it seems to just miss on the appearance front, and just miss on the mechanicals.

Oh yeah, misses on the name too.
I have a 2012 SS and the brakes are the best I've ever felt.
I say that even after owning a 2002 Z06 Corvette.
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:39 PM   #923
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The Option is a waste

For you, it probably is. Then again, there are people that think that the RS option is a waste, or the 2SS oprion is a waste. However, it is pretty cool that most people will be able to order the options that they want.
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For you, it probably is. Then again, there are people that think that the RS option is a waste, or the 2SS oprion is a waste. However, it is pretty cool that most people will be able to order the options that they want.
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The stock brake fluid boils before the pads fade.
This. Not having the ZL1's big brakes is a bit of a disappointment but "track ready" means more than just big calipers in bright colors. True "track" brakes is more of a question of swapping out the fluid and pads rather than bigger rotors and more pistons.
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