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Old 06-12-2012, 04:48 PM   #926
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Some of you guys need to quit being pompous douche bags. There are options on these cars for a reason, and I wish a Chinese finger trap or five was complimentary for some people who have opinions that have no purpose other than to be negative. If everyone had to follow along and play with the same thought that things are a waste, stupid, or unnecessary we would all be in model Ts still. Geez, some people may actually participate in autocross with these cars. Not everyone uses it as a commuter, dragster, or any other one dedicated purpose.
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:12 PM   #927
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Some of you guys need to quit being pompous douche bags. There are options on these cars for a reason, and I wish a Chinese finger trap or five was complimentary for some people who have opinions that have no purpose other than to be negative. If everyone had to follow along and play with the same thought that things are a waste, stupid, or unnecessary we would all be in model Ts still. Geez, some people may actually participate in autocross with these cars. Not everyone uses it as a commuter, dragster, or any other one dedicated purpose.
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:58 PM   #928
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lol Who in their right mind will actually spend 39K on a car to use it for autocross.. I mean I can see if people have that money to burn more power to them.. But the average Camaro 5 member Is not going to care about a 1le option and then beat the living $hit out of their cars at the track.. I mean I can see once or 2wice going to a 1/4 mile track and seeing what the car does in the 1/4.... And the best part about it is when something goes wrong at the track they will be the first ones at the dealer screaming and demanding things be repaired under warranty, then they will rant on here about it like someone owes them something..

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Old 06-13-2012, 12:17 AM   #929
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lol Who in their right mind will actually spend 39K on a car to use it for autocross.
Check on the Camaro5 fest, you'll see quite a few who not only will do autocross, but will also be drag racing. Several likely like to drive down winding roads when they get a chance and may even do it about the speed limit.
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Old 06-13-2012, 07:33 PM   #930
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lol Who in their right mind will actually spend 39K on a car to use it for autocross.. I mean I can see if people have that money to burn more power to them.. But the average Camaro 5 member Is not going to care about a 1le option and then beat the living $hit out of their cars at the track.. I mean I can see once or 2wice going to a 1/4 mile track and seeing what the car does in the 1/4.... And the best part about it is when something goes wrong at the track they will be the first ones at the dealer screaming and demanding things be repaired under warranty, then they will rant on here about it like someone owes them something..


Well, that might be your point of view, but other people may see things differently. You are aware that there are several Camaro lovers that are going to pay over $100,000.00 for a Camaro that they can NOT drive on the street, aren't you?!? By comparison, $39,000 for the 1LE is the deal of the century. For that price you get a car that you can drive on the street all week long, then take it to the track on weekends. Do you really think nobody will be interested in a car like that?
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Old 06-13-2012, 10:07 PM   #931
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I'm sure there are many military guys in Europe who will be really happy to have the 1LE and have a blast on the twists and turns in the mountains or maybe even the Nurburgring.
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Old 06-13-2012, 10:28 PM   #932
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Theres many military guys in America ( right here ) that will be really happy to have a 1LE and have a blast on the twists and turns in the mountains or maybe even the 95 Freeway.
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Old 06-13-2012, 11:07 PM   #933
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Well, that might be your point of view, but other people may see things differently. You are aware that there are several Camaro lovers that are going to pay over $100,000.00 for a Camaro that they can NOT drive on the street, aren't you?!? By comparison, $39,000 for the 1LE is the deal of the century. For that price you get a car that you can drive on the street all week long, then take it to the track on weekends. Do you really think nobody will be interested in a car like that?
There are a few over the top G8s out there and I do mean way over the top!

15 years ago had a person suggested I spend almost $4K (adjusted down for inflation) on suspension parts for my new car I would have rolled on the floor laughing. I had gone the lowering spring routes, played with some rock hard urethane, sphericals and all that stuff. The cars handled better but were brutal on the road. I wrote all that off and said never again.

Then I started a wide body GTO project in 2004. Had her on the first ever set of Koni adjustables for the GTO installed by Koni in Kentucky along with B+G lowering coils. I took her out to Gingerman and left miserable. It was a disaster with my 315/30/18 rear and 375/35/18s front Pilot Sports on my gorgeous HRE wheels and my $100K custom built car I tried parts from a few other companies and then bit the bullet and ordered stuff from Pedders in Australia. So now you know the rest of the story... Back on point, there will be three buyers for a 1LE in my mind.

1. I can't afford a ZL1, but I can get a lot of ZL1 with my affordable 1LE
2. I want a normally aspirated car to drive every day and take to track days
3. The 1LE gives me a great base for the rest of my mods. My $100K car will only cost me $90K

They would all be buying the 1LE for all the right reasons.
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Old 06-14-2012, 06:08 PM   #934
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Well, that might be your point of view, but other people may see things differently. You are aware that there are several Camaro lovers that are going to pay over $100,000.00 for a Camaro that they can NOT drive on the street, aren't you?!? By comparison, $39,000 for the 1LE is the deal of the century. For that price you get a car that you can drive on the street all week long, then take it to the track on weekends. Do you really think nobody will be interested in a car like that?
This... I have always thought it strange that someone would spend a lot of money on a car and never drive it like it was meant to be driven... what's the point in that? I will autocross, track day, and drag race my 1LE (with some engine mods to get to around 500 HP), as well as enjoy it as a regular driver. If I didn't, I wouldn't bother buying one.
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Old 06-14-2012, 11:44 PM   #935
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lol Who in their right mind will actually spend 39K on a car to use it for autocross.. I mean I can see if people have that money to burn more power to them.. But the average Camaro 5 member Is not going to care about a 1le option and then beat the living $hit out of their cars at the track.. I mean I can see once or 2wice going to a 1/4 mile track and seeing what the car does in the 1/4.... And the best part about it is when something goes wrong at the track they will be the first ones at the dealer screaming and demanding things be repaired under warranty, then they will rant on here about it like someone owes them something..
I will likely buy one of these 1LE's and beat the crap out of it on the Autocross or road course just like I have with this one...and that's pretty much what I use my Camaro for other than the Hot Rod Power Tour...these cars are meant to be driven and driven hard....
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Old 06-21-2012, 08:23 PM   #936
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Old 06-22-2012, 09:43 AM   #937
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Sorry if this has been asked but when will i be able to buy the front splitter? and any idea of cost?
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Old 06-22-2012, 10:59 AM   #938
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lol Who in their right mind will actually spend 39K on a car to use it for autocross.. I mean I can see if people have that money to burn more power to them.. But the average Camaro 5 member Is not going to care about a 1le option and then beat the living $hit out of their cars at the track.. I mean I can see once or 2wice going to a 1/4 mile track and seeing what the car does in the 1/4.... And the best part about it is when something goes wrong at the track they will be the first ones at the dealer screaming and demanding things be repaired under warranty, then they will rant on here about it like someone owes them something..
I'd imagine more then you'd think. Look at how many people bought the 2ss for 35k and did lots of mods and beat the "$hit" out of them. I've not only turbo'd mine but have also been to the drag strip and road course at least a doezen times.
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Old 06-25-2012, 07:21 AM   #939
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Sorry if this has been asked but when will i be able to buy the front splitter? and any idea of cost?
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:05 AM   #940
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Has anyone said when this would be available to order?
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Old 06-26-2012, 06:54 PM   #941
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has anyone heard of a HP increase, why add all of this neat stuff and no HP increase. The BOSS is or should be the target car here and it is running 444 this year, not sure yet what it will have next year.

Come ON GM, you gave us a better mid price performer now give us more HP to go with it.
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any word on an increase in HP, we could at least put it in the 450-475 range.

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I'm not allowed to post the dealer reference guide,but I can tell you that the 1LE performance package is coming for 2013!

Heres some of the features....

FRONT SPLITTER PAINTED IN SMOKE GRAY
This 1LE front splitter provides a unique appearance while helping to reduce front lift significantly.

REAR SPOILER IN SMOKE GRAY
The rear spoiler in Smoke Gray adds to the aggressive look and aerodynamic efficiencies of 1LE.

RED BREMBO® BRAKE CALIPERS
This four-piston brake system is considered world-class in the high-performance vehicle niche. It provides excellent fade resistance and is engineered to stand up to repeated high-speed stops. Red calipers add to the dramatic track-ready appearance of 1LE.

BLACK HOOD WRAP
1LE is instantly recognizable by its unique matte-black hood – no additional stripe content is allowed.

20-INCH, 10-SPOKE BLACK WHEELS WITH LOW-GLOSS BLACK FINISH AND 285/35ZR20 GOODYEAR EAGLE® SUPERCAR G:2 TIRES1
The front and rear wheels of 1LE are borrowed from the ZL1 and have a low-gloss black finish with a 10-spoke design. They are optimized to hold up on the track and provide a powerful appearance. The Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar Generation 2 (G:2) front and rear tires1 (identical to the front tires for ZL1) contribute to outstanding handling.

AVAILABLE RS APPEARANCE PACKAGE
Equip your 1LE with HID headlamps (including halo rings), a body color roof ditch molding, and a body color shark fin antenna for a clean exterior appearance and unique RS badging.

AVAILABLE SUNROOF
With 1LE’s available power sunroof.

SUEDED MICROFIBER-WRAPPED FLAT-BOTTOM STEERING WHEEL
This flat-bottom steering wheel (borrowed from ZL1) provides room for heel/toe operation and makes getting in and out of 1LE easier. This wheel, accented with stone color stitching, makes the car feel more nimble and connects the driver more directly to the car.

SUEDED MICROFIBER-WRAPPED SHIFT KNOB
Borrowed from ZL1, the 1LE shift knob looks as good as it feels, wrapped in sueded microfiber and accented with stone color stitching. The 1LE also shares ZL1’s GM-designed short throw shifter, which has a 5.1:1 ratio — the new standard for Camaro.

AVAILABLE PREMIUM AUDIO SYSTEM
(Included on 2SS models) Enjoy premium performance sound with the Boston Acoustics® premium nine-speaker sound system.

AVAILABLE REAR VISION PACKAGE
(Included on 2SS models) Help see items behind the vehicle with the Rear Vision Camera, displayed on the 7-inch color touch radio screen.

FRONT AND REAR STABILIZER BARS
The unique front (27mm solid) and rear (28mm solid) stabilizer bars follow the design of the ZL1. These bars improve roll stiffness during high-speed 1LE maneuvers while helping to add body control and vehicle response.

UPGRADED HALF SHAFTS
The half shafts of 1LE have been "beefed up" to handle the higher grip and handling of the 1LE rear tires.

TOWER-TO-TOWER BRACE
The tower-to-tower brace helps to improve on-center feel, while enhancing structural feel and response.

TREMEC® 6-SPEED MANUAL TRANSMISSION
While the Camaro SS features a TREMEC® TR6060-M10 for all-around performance, the Camaro 1LE features a TREMEC® TR6060-MM6. Paired with a numerically higher 3.91 final-drive ratio, the close-ratio gearing of the transmission is tuned for road-racing performance. As with the ZL1, the 1LE transmission features a standard liquid-to-liquid cooling system for track usage.

ELECTRIC POWER STEERING
Borrowed from ZL1, the innovative power assist system is custom tuned for the 1LE.

AVAILABLE DUAL-MODE EXHAUST
This available system (borrowed from ZL1) provides refined tuning at low engine speeds and a low-restriction exhaust at high engine speeds. It utilizes a vacuum system, coupled with twin valves located at the exhaust tailpipes.



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any word on an increase in HP, we could at least put it in the 450-475 range.
The last thing this car need is more power on the track. Its hard enough keepin traction accelerating out of a corner. (unless you have ST and TC on, but wheres the fun in that?)
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Old 06-26-2012, 07:37 PM   #944
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The last thing this car need is more power on the track. Its hard enough keepin traction accelerating out of a corner. (unless you have ST and TC on, but wheres the fun in that?)

But without more power, how can you win dyno wars and bench races?
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Old 06-26-2012, 09:03 PM   #945
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has anyone heard of a HP increase, why add all of this neat stuff and no HP increase. The BOSS is or should be the target car here and it is running 444 this year, not sure yet what it will have next year.

Come ON GM, you gave us a better mid price performer now give us more HP to go with it.
A lot of boss 302 guys are taking off the intake manifold and installing the regular coyote intake. Lack of low end and midrange power is the reason.
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Old 06-26-2012, 09:12 PM   #946
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has anyone heard of a HP increase, why add all of this neat stuff and no HP increase. The BOSS is or should be the target car here and it is running 444 this year, not sure yet what it will have next year.

Come ON GM, you gave us a better mid price performer now give us more HP to go with it.
I believe all the BOSS got was a different intake plenum on the same 5.0 coyote motor I could be wrong though cause I don't care for Fords.
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Old 06-26-2012, 09:25 PM   #947
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After reading all of this, I was saving my penny's, about 58k worth of them, for the ZL1. But I am really going to look hard at this car. I paid 37k for my 2ss, so another 2k sounds OK to me.
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Old 06-26-2012, 09:29 PM   #948
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any word on an increase in HP, we could at least put it in the 450-475 range.
Easy, start with a LS3 and add an intake, scoop, LTs, cats, ported TB, and optionally, a tune. $2,500 if you buy wisely and do it yourself. 475-490 at the crank.

But as has been mentioned here your 1LE+ will be more of a handful at the track.

Even at stock LS3 power levels the 1LE should be competitive with the Boss on the track. Driving practice will give you an advantage.
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After reading all of this, I was saving my penny's, about 58k worth of them, for the ZL1. But I am really going to look hard at this car. I paid 37k for my 2ss, so another 2k sounds OK to me.

Gonna be a bit more than $2k
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Easy, start with a LS3 and add an intake, scoop, LTs, cats, ported TB, and optionally, a tune. $2,500 if you buy wisely and do it yourself. 475-490 at the crank.

But as has been mentioned here your 1LE+ will be more of a handful at the track.

Even at stock LS3 power levels the 1LE should be competitive with the Boss on the track. Driving practice will give you an advantage.
The 1LE will be capable of using more RWHP. That said, the gearing will make the LS3 perform far better than it does in the SS.
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