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Old 07-11-2012, 05:25 AM   #1001
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Not sure if its been posted yet because there are too many pages to thumb through. On GM media, I noticed a slight change or maybe typo? regarding the wheels. They added new photos and it appears they edited the wheel sizes being 20x10 on all 4s. If it's true, then that's better sense to have this set-up then having a staggered one.

http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/chev...b1.html#wheels

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Not sure if its been posted yet because there are too many pages to thumb through. On GM media, I noticed a slight change or maybe typo? regarding the wheels. They added new photos and it appears they edited the wheel sizes being 20x10 on all 4s. If it's true, then that's better sense to have this set-up then having a staggered one.

http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/chev...b1.html#wheels

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WHAT?! Can it be? I wonder if one of them was a typo? Either the original release that said 20 x 11 on the back or this one that says 20 x 10? I have to say wheels all the same size make sense and that means you can rotate them! I think the 1LE is the car for me.

Hmm...the ordering guide still lists the original spec:

Wheels, 20" x 10" (50.8 cm x 25.4 cm) front and 20" x 11" (50.8 cm x 27.9 cm) rear Black 10-spoke forged aluminum
1 - Included and only available with (1LE) SS Performance Package.

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Old 07-11-2012, 01:19 PM   #1003
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I'm assuming it's updated as the photos of the red 1LE's added are new plus more of the yellow one. I hope it's 20x10's on all 4s.
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:40 PM   #1004
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I hope it comes with 20x11 in the rear...then you only need to swap out the rears for 305s...looks much meatier that way!

Has anyone seen any pics of a white 1LE?
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Old 07-11-2012, 02:16 PM   #1005
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I hope it comes with 20x11 in the rear...then you only need to swap out the rears for 305s...looks much meatier that way!
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Old 07-11-2012, 05:32 PM   #1006
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I'm assuming it's updated as the photos of the red 1LE's added are new plus more of the yellow one. I hope it's 20x10's on all 4s.
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I hope it comes with 20x11 in the rear...then you only need to swap out the rears for 305s...looks much meatier that way!

Has anyone seen any pics of a white 1LE?
According to the order guide that we got last week, it has 20x10 up front and 20x11 in the back, just like the ZL1. The only difference is that for some unknown reason, it uses 285/35/20 tires all the way around. I have no idea why they wouldn't put 305/35/20 on the rear because the tires look stupid on the rear of the 1LE because they're are so stretched on the wider wheel.

If they're changing the wheel size in the rear, that could be the reason for the delay.
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Old 07-11-2012, 06:58 PM   #1007
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I'm assuming it's updated as the photos of the red 1LE's added are new plus more of the yellow one. I hope it's 20x10's on all 4s.
I don't see pics of a red 1LE but I do see pics of an IOM one. Also 20x10 wheels front and rear are listed on the media site under 2013 Camaro information and not just on the link provided above. If it's a typo it's mistyped in two different places.
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I don't see pics of a red 1LE but I do see pics of an IOM one. Also 20x10 wheels front and rear are listed on the media site under 2013 Camaro information and not just on the link provided above. If it's a typo it's mistyped in two different places.
Link please?

I personally think 20x10 would make sense if you are going to try to stretch a tire on a 20x11, but the inital press release on the 1LE specifically said 20x11 and the ordering guide still says 20x11. The original 1LE spec sheet also said 20x11 so there is 20x11 in multiple places as well.

In fact just click another tab in the same specs that has then listed as 20x10 and you get 20x11

http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/chev...2013.tab3.html

Wheels, 20" x 10" (50.8 cm x 25.4 cm) front and 20" x 11" (50.8 cm x 27.9 cm) rear Black 10-spoke forged aluminum
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Old 07-11-2012, 07:10 PM   #1009
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Old 07-11-2012, 07:20 PM   #1010
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Good catch!

You are correct.

It now says:

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Other changes to optimize the 1LE for track-day use include:
  • Larger, 27-mm solid front stabilizer bar, and 28-mm solid rear stabilizer bar for improved body control
  • Higher-capacity rear-axle half shafts to cope with increased levels of traction
  • Strut tower brace for improved steering feel and response
  • ZL1-based 20 x 10-inch front and 20 x 10-inch aluminum wheels
  • 285/35ZR20 Goodyear Eagle Supercar G:2 tires front and rear (identical to the front tires for ZL1)
  • ZL1 wheel bearings, toe links and rear shock mounts for improved on-track performance
  • ZL1 high-capacity fuel pump and additional fuel pickups for improved fuel delivery during high-load cornering.
The original press release said:

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Other changes to optimize the 1LE for track-day use include:
  • Larger, 27-mm solid front stabilizer bar, and 28-mm solid rear stabilizer bar for improved body control
  • Higher-capacity rear-axle half shafts to cope with increased levels of traction
  • Strut tower brace for improved steering feel and response
  • ZL1-based 20 x 10-inch front and 20 x 11-inch aluminum wheels
  • 285/35ZR20 Goodyear Eagle Supercar G:2 tires front and rear (identical to the front tires for ZL1)
  • ZL1 wheel bearings, toe links and rear shock mounts for improved on-track performance
  • ZL1 high-capacity fuel pump and additional fuel pickups for improved fuel delivery during high-cornering
But....click on the standard/available equipment tab and it will still have 20x11 for the 1LE in the ordering guide.

Hmmmm.....

I want 20x10 Although I am sure someone else is saying they want 20x11 and I should STFU.

Now if only they would add a delete for the hood wrap and black spoiler so they would be the same color as the body....
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Old 07-11-2012, 07:31 PM   #1011
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Good catch!

You are correct.

It now says:



The original press release said:



But....click on the standard/available equipment tab and it will still have 20x11 for the 1LE in the ordering guide.

Hmmmm.....

I want 20x10 Although I am sure someone else is saying they want 20x11 and I should STFU.

Now if only they would add a delete for the hood wrap and black spoiler so they would be the same color as the body....
I was iffy on the flat black hood and spoiler myself but it's grown on me. I haven't really seen a pic of the 1LE that I didn't like. I'll probably end up leaving the hood the way it comes. As far as the wheels it looks like the jury is still out. I would normally be wary of a finding like this as GM's website info is notorious for typos, wrong pictures and animations, but maybe they changed the wheel size. We will see soon enough.
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I don't see pics of a red 1LE but I do see pics of an IOM one. Also 20x10 wheels front and rear are listed on the media site under 2013 Camaro information and not just on the link provided above. If it's a typo it's mistyped in two different places.
Sorry...i'm going color blind
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Old 07-11-2012, 07:55 PM   #1013
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http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/chev...2013.tab1.html

This link shows the specifications for all models of Camaro. Click on Wheels/Tires and you'll see the 20x10 front and rear for the 1LE.
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Sorry...i'm going color blind
Shoot. I've had to ask people what color their car is cause IOM looks so much like red in certain pics.
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I'm not able to read everything on this page from the 2013 Camaro brochure when I zoom in. What I can see is that is says 20x11 rear wheels, 0-60 in 4.7, 3875 curb weight,1.0G skidpad, I think it says 12.9 second 1/4 mile can't read the speed.
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I need to see a test between the SS vs. SS w/ 1LE vs ZL1, to make my determination on buying the 1LE or ZL1...
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I need to see a test between the SS vs. SS w/ 1LE vs ZL1, to make my determination on buying the 1LE or ZL1...
It should only be a money issue. 1LE won't come close to anything the ZL1 is capable of.
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It should only be a money issue. 1LE won't come close to anything the ZL1 is capable of.
Exactly

ZL1 ($$$) > 1LE ($$) > SS ($)
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I'm not able to read everything on this page from the 2013 Camaro brochure when I zoom in. What I can see is that is says 20x11 rear wheels, 0-60 in 4.7, 3875 curb weight,1.0G skidpad, I think it says 12.9 second 1/4 mile can't read the speed
So it's 15 lbs heavier than a SS?
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I'm not able to read everything on this page from the 2013 Camaro brochure when I zoom in. What I can see is that is says 20x11 rear wheels, 0-60 in 4.7, 3875 curb weight,1.0G skidpad, I think it says 12.9 second 1/4 mile can't read the speed.
12.9 @ 113 mph
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Old 07-14-2012, 02:08 PM   #1021
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So it's 15 lbs heavier than a SS?
That extra 15lbs shouldn't surprise anyone... it's not a LIGHTENED SS -- its an SS with *extra* equipment added on.

Stronger (heavier) axle shafts, thicker solid steel sway bars front and rear and bigger wheels and tires. Not to mention the other little extra bits (additional fuel pickups, different transmission (might be heavier)), etc. Does anyone think that all those things are *lighter* than stock SS parts???

I'm actually a little surprised the weight gain isn't closer to 40-50lbs given all the extra (or bigger) parts.
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Larger sway bars and axles weigh more.
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Kent2010, is was trying to post with my 2 year old crawling all over me. By the time I hit the post button you had beaten me to it. Great minds think alike.
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Weight still heavy compared to Boss 302 (non LS) 3632 lbs., but big difference from ZL1, so on the track the 1LE shine nicely. And being that it has IRS and monotube shocks and thicker sways, this 1LE will run very well against more modified vehicles.
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And it won't have 120-150 lbs of supercharger over the front wheels.
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