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Old 04-01-2012, 07:23 PM   #681
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1LE package looks fantastic... but... I can't help but think that the chances are of actually getting a deal on one are micro-slim.

I mean $39k is already a good bump in MSRP for the 1LE content, but throw on the inevitable $5k dealer markup, and at that price, the 1LE is about *$12,000+* more than what you can get a 1SS out the door for... I don't know -- pretty sure I could NOT justify the price premium at that point.

I hope I'm wrong, but history is clearly on the side of dealers going for the gouging markups on cars like this. I would hate to think the 'new' 1LE is just another high-priced special for those with deep pockets.
Probably less of a chance of this due to the fact its an option not a model.
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Old 04-01-2012, 07:35 PM   #682
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1LE package looks fantastic... but... I can't help but think that the chances are of actually getting a deal on one are micro-slim.

I mean $39k is already a good bump in MSRP for the 1LE content, but throw on the inevitable $5k dealer markup, and at that price, the 1LE is about *$12,000+* more than what you can get a 1SS out the door for... I don't know -- pretty sure I could NOT justify the price premium at that point.

I hope I'm wrong, but history is clearly on the side of dealers going for the gouging markups on cars like this. I would hate to think the 'new' 1LE is just another high-priced special for those with deep pockets.

I'm sure that there will a few dealers that will try to charge a "premium" for this car. That would be foolish because there will be many dealers selling these cars at, or below MSRP. I could be wrong, but I don't think you will see too many 1LE Camaros on dealer lots. The larger dealers might get 1 car for their showroom, but most dealers won't risk stocking a car like this. Most of these cars will be "made to order". If I end up ordering one of these cars, I will be paying less than MSRP.
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Old 04-01-2012, 09:13 PM   #683
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How can a dealer charge a premium for an option which is all the 1LE really is, it's an incredibly good track pack...
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Old 04-01-2012, 10:05 PM   #684
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How can a dealer charge a premium for an option which is all the 1LE really is, it's an incredibly good track pack...
That was going to be my question.
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Old 04-01-2012, 10:08 PM   #685
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How can a dealer charge a premium for an option which is all the 1LE really is, it's an incredibly good track pack...
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That was going to be my question.
I'm going to bet that there will be a few knuckleheads who try. I walked into a Ford dealer last fall to see they up-charged a Boss LS. When I asked why (playing dumb) - sales manager told me it was because it had the LS package...

I think the 1LE option might have enough of a "wow factor" for a dealer or two to convince themselves they could earn an extra buck....sad as it is to say...
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Old 04-01-2012, 10:15 PM   #686
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How can a dealer charge a premium for an option which is all the 1LE really is, it's an incredibly good track pack...
Easy. Dealers do it all the time -- just add their own little window sticker on any 1LE-equipped Camaro stating "Market Adjustment" or some other such nonsense. There is no law stating that they cannot add a premium to whichever car they want, based on whatever criteria they decide, no matter if that criteria is model, equipment or even color. "Whatever the market will bear"

Unfortunately, when there is high demand (as there certainly will be for the 1LE), *someone* will pay the extra. It doesn't matter if that "high demand" is real or simply perceived.
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Old 04-01-2012, 10:38 PM   #687
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I'm going to bet that there will be a few knuckleheads who try. I walked into a Ford dealer last fall to see they up-charged a Boss LS. When I asked why (playing dumb) - sales manager told me it was because it had the LS package...

I think the 1LE option might have enough of a "wow factor" for a dealer or two to convince themselves they could earn an extra buck....sad as it is to say...
But the BOSS LS is a different trim, I'm not going to argue this because dealers are as a general rule ****suckers.
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Old 04-01-2012, 10:40 PM   #688
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But the BOSS LS is a different trim, I'm not going to argue this because dealers are as a general rule ****suckers.
While I'd never in a million years pay it -- and frankly, thumb my nose at those who do...I can't blame the dealer. As business cases go - it's a good one...

Lose a few hundred dollars waiting just a little longer for that sucker who'll come by and pay an extra 10,000 for a car.
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While I'd never in a million years pay it -- and frankly, thumb my nose at those who do...I can't blame the dealer. As business cases go - it's a good one...

Lose a few hundred dollars waiting just a little longer for that sucker who'll come by and pay an extra 10,000 for a car.
Hey I mean if your a dumb enough person to do that then whatever, I personally wouldn't either. It's just a little bit like whoreing your self out, except your the one paying...
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Hey I mean if your a dumb enough person to do that then whatever, I personally wouldn't either. It's just a little bit like whoreing your self out, except your the one paying...
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Old 04-01-2012, 11:40 PM   #691
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:38 AM   #693
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1LE package looks fantastic... but... I can't help but think that the chances are of actually getting a deal on one are micro-slim.

I mean $39k is already a good bump in MSRP for the 1LE content, but throw on the inevitable $5k dealer markup, and at that price, the 1LE is about *$12,000+* more than what you can get a 1SS out the door for... I don't know -- pretty sure I could NOT justify the price premium at that point.

I hope I'm wrong, but history is clearly on the side of dealers going for the gouging markups on cars like this. I would hate to think the 'new' 1LE is just another high-priced special for those with deep pockets.

no need to pay dealer mark-up - this will not be 'limited edition' -
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no need to pay dealer mark-up - this will not be 'limited edition' -
do you know if the 1LE will have the same axles as the SS?
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Old 04-02-2012, 06:40 AM   #695
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