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Old 03-26-2012, 10:04 PM   #26
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As far as the axles and transmission, the standard SS should have had this from the start.

Nothing like paying more to finally get the right parts installed. Sorry ,but I don't get it.
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Old 03-26-2012, 10:23 PM   #27
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I think this is our Z/28, fellas!

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...03#post4707803

Although I'm surprised at how many bells and whistles it has-- 7" touchscreen radio? YES PLEASE!

Thought the 1LE was a package designation. Like a "SS" "RS" "LS" "LT". A Z/28 with the "1LE" package. A track car .Better brakes,suspension,wheels&tires,sway bars,tower strut and performance.I could be wrong...
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Now that i think about it, the 1LE may be the GM answer to the Mustang Brembo package. A more trackable SS. Still leaving room for a Z28. The original 1LE concept may have been too Z28ish.
Yep, and the fact that they didn't give 1LE it's own model. So I wanna know, do the Z -diehards have more or less hope for a fifth gen Z28? I'm thinking it's about the same. Me personally, I may make this 1LE mine.
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Yep, and the fact that they didn't give 1LE it's own model. So I wanna know, do the Z -diehards have more or less hope for a fifth gen Z28? I'm thinking it's about the same. Me personally, I may make this 1LE mine.

I see this as a compromise from GM for all the Z28 complainers. I think this is as close to a RPO z28 that will be seen any time soon. Now lets see if any will see the compromise, and put their money where their mouth is, or just come up with another excuse not to get a 5th Gen. Face it your day of RPO z28 may never come.
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I see this as a compromise from GM for all the Z28 complainers. I think this is as close to a RPO z28 that will be seen any time soon. Now lets see if any will see the compromise, and put their money where their mouth is, or just come up with another excuse not to get a 5th Gen. Face it your day of RPO z28 may never come.
I don't understand the hate towards those of us that are keeping the faith that we will have a 5th gen Z/28..... Why does my hope get you worked up?
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I see this as a compromise from GM for all the Z28 complainers. I think this is as close to a RPO z28 that will be seen any time soon. Now lets see if any will see the compromise, and put their money where their mouth is, or just come up with another excuse not to get a 5th Gen. Face it your day of RPO z28 may never come.
And who pissed in your wheaties today?? If the 1LE is not what I want (not equipped properly) then I won't buy it, pretty simple isn't it?? If they don't equip the 1LE well enough to meet my wants/needs and a 5th gen Z/28 does not happen, then I'll wait and see what the 6th gen brings. This will likely be my last opportunity to buy a Z/28 and I will not waste that on a version that does not meet my expectations.
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:10 PM   #35
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With what one can do with these cars is a Z28 really that big of deal? Don't get me wrong I would love to see it as well, but the modding on the Z28 as well as the ZL1 kinda negates what the badge says does it not? In the end it's just a badge.

But like I said I would like to see it happen and see what options it would have..
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I see this as a compromise from GM for all the Z28 complainers. I think this is as close to a RPO z28 that will be seen any time soon. Now lets see if any will see the compromise, and put their money where their mouth is, or just come up with another excuse not to get a 5th Gen. Face it your day of RPO z28 may never come.
Lets face it you may be wrong. Why are you so negative? did your mom or dad never teach you to look on the brighter side of things? or be a realist?
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I see this as a compromise from GM for all the Z28 complainers. I think this is as close to a RPO z28 that will be seen any time soon. Now lets see if any will see the compromise, and put their money where their mouth is, or just come up with another excuse not to get a 5th Gen. Face it your day of RPO z28 may never come.
At the time money wasn't the issue.... just maybe a new Camaro isn't the right car for me.
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Lets face it you may be wrong. Why are you so negative? did your mom or dad never teach you to look on the brighter side of things? or be a realist?
I'm not being negative at all, in fact I am always a realist and think of the positive side of things when they happen in life. Saying the Z/28 may never happen isn't being negative, it's being a realist. And if it never happens in the next generation, then what, wait until the 7th Gen ... It get to the point where you have to stop and think, what the hell am I waiting for ? I passed up all these really cool cars, and for what, an empty dream ... Myself, I learned from history but live for today.
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I'm not being negative at all, in fact I am always a realist and think of the positive side of things when they happen in life. Saying the Z/28 may never happen isn't being negative, it's being a realist. And if it never happens in the next generation, then what, wait until the 7th Gen ... It get to the point where you have to stop and think, what the hell am I waiting for ? I passed up all these really cool cars, and for what, an empty dream ... Myself, I learned from history but live for today.
Part of being a realist for myself is NOT buying things that aren't really what I want. I've done a lot of things in my life because if I just kept putting it off I would never do it, I've also bought things that were a compromise to what I really wanted and have never been happy with them. Now it might be one thing to buy a 3k music synthesizer that was a compromise and become disatisfied (and end up selling it at close to a 50% loss), it is quite another to do so with a 40k-45k automobile.
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I'm not being negative at all, in fact I am always a realist and think of the positive side of things when they happen in life. Saying the Z/28 may never happen isn't being negative, it's being a realist. And if it never happens in the next generation, then what, wait until the 7th Gen ... It get to the point where you have to stop and think, what the hell am I waiting for ? I passed up all these really cool cars, and for what, an empty dream ... Myself, I learned from history but live for today.
live for today because tomorrow the housing market may crash. . .oh crap that happened already. but yet we have people going out and buying $40k cars that are over extended already on credit cards because they are living for today.

poor excuse. if a car is not what you are looking for then you shouldn't compromise and buy it. The bread crumb trail I've been following shows there will be a z28. it's the same trail that said keep the faith back in 2002. And that's why I fully believe you are wrong.

Do you also realize this is the only generation camaro ever built with out a z28? There have been many many years with out an SS, but the Z28 has been. It would be wrong of GM to not produce the Z28 due to it's heritage.
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I see this as a compromise from GM for all the Z28 complainers. I think this is as close to a RPO z28 that will be seen any time soon. Now lets see if any will see the compromise, and put their money where their mouth is, or just come up with another excuse not to get a 5th Gen. Face it your day of RPO z28 may never come.
I hate to agree but.... Given the cost of R&D, profit margins and the many trims available on the Camaro now, I just don't see them producing a Z/28 this generation. I think until 2017 and the 50th anniversary, the 1LE is as close as we will get. And I'm fine with it! I already have a 5th so I'll wait for the 50th. But I hope the people who wanted this step up and buy it so GM keeps listening to us when we ask for things. However I have the feeling this may be a very rare car. I have owned Z's and they are great but I don't get why people get so stuck on a name. A rose by any other name would smell as sweet


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I hate to agree but.... Given the cost of R&D, profit margins and the many trims available on the Camaro now, I just don't see them producing a Z/28 this generation. I think until 2017 and the 50th anniversary, the 1LE is as close as we will get. And I'm fine with it! I already have a 5th so I'll wait for the 50th. But I hope the people who wanted this step up and buy it so GM keeps listening to us when we ask for things. However I have the feeling this may be a very rare car. I have owned Z's and they are great but I don't get why people get so stuck on a name. A rose by any other name would smell as sweet


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I'm curious, please explain to me what in the 1LE SS option (which it appears to be) makes it so different than simply buying an SS and doing a few mods? While I do see some upgrades, I don't see an overwhelming difference, I don't like the silly looking slash marks on the fender, I don't like the black hood, so what am I missing?
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I see this as a compromise from GM for all the Z28 complainers. I think this is as close to a RPO z28 that will be seen any time soon. Now lets see if any will see the compromise, and put their money where their mouth is, or just come up with another excuse not to get a 5th Gen. Face it your day of RPO z28 may never come.
Key word "compromise".
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I hate to agree but.... Given the cost of R&D, profit margins and the many trims available on the Camaro now, I just don't see them producing a Z/28 this generation. I think until 2017 and the 50th anniversary, the 1LE is as close as we will get. And I'm fine with it! I already have a 5th so I'll wait for the 50th. But I hope the people who wanted this step up and buy it so GM keeps listening to us when we ask for things. However I have the feeling this may be a very rare car. I have owned Z's and they are great but I don't get why people get so stuck on a name. A rose by any other name would smell as sweet


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I'm curious, please explain to me what in the 1LE SS option (which it appears to be) makes it so different than simply buying an SS and doing a few mods? While I do see some upgrades, I don't see an overwhelming difference, I don't like the silly looking slash marks on the fender, I don't like the black hood, so what am I missing?
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That's what it appears to be to me as well, an option for the SS. I Respect what they've done, however I would rather mod a 1SS my way. And that's what I may do, begrudgingly.
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You'd be better off modding your SS the way YOU want it, instead of paying double to just get the same thing from the factory. Get some PFADT suspension parts and put them on your SS...boom there's your 1LE haha, except a few vinyl wrapped panels, and the wheels. I don't think a Z/28 is coming either, just wouldn't make sense from GM's point of view in my opinion.

I have to admit, I love those 1LE/ZL1 wheels.
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I'm curious, please explain to me what in the 1LE SS option (which it appears to be) makes it so different than simply buying an SS and doing a few mods? While I do see some upgrades, I don't see an overwhelming difference, I don't like the silly looking slash marks on the fender, I don't like the black hood, so what am I missing?
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I still believe we will have a 5th gen. Z/28 before it's over.
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I still believe we will have a 5th gen. Z/28 before it's over.
I'm feeling better about it after Fbods comment in the 1LE/SS thread.
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The deciding thing here is that screen finally.... But all 2013s are Gunnar get it, so if price is more than 4000 for the le package it is kind of redundant and assuming such....


It will probably be more then 4k for that minor swap, not upgrade (Canadian dollars)
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Not that my singular opinion will buy anyone much (including, unfortunately, ME!), but I see this as a worthy SS upgrade for (hopefully!) NOT a huge amount of dough.

Increased gription? Check. FE4, beefed anti-sway bars, wheels/tires, some bushings upgrades...
Increased performance? Check. 3.91s will liven up the LS3; HD trans/axles will harness it.
Distinct appearance? Check. Not just any SS...and for some that's mighty important.
Build it your way? Check. Options for those who seek them.

Call this one ZEE Lite. And there's nothing wrong with that AT ALL...for those who want "that".

So, what was missed? Or, better yet, what "opportunity" exists for a jenn-you-wine ZEE?

More power (as opposed to Mopar!)
6-pot front brakes...which, until substantially more steam arrives, are not yet necessary
HD diff...see above
Eye-straining (as opposed to bone-jarring) suspension upgrade...Coilovers...or MRC...

So, boys 'n girls, we're close...closer than we were...and, as fbodfather hisself has said (again last night, in fact...), "we're NOT done..."
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