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Old 03-27-2012, 09:39 AM   #1
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Does the 1LE look too much like the ZL1?

Maybe its just me, but the 1LE borrows a little too much from the ZL1 for me. I know the real difference is under the hood, but going down the street they will look very similar. I liked the world where no other Camaro looked like the ZL1. It still bothers me that most people don't know if my SS is a V6 or V8. That being said I guess most people will not know my ZL1 is supercharged, exotic slaying beast
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:44 AM   #2
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Maybe its just me, but the 1LE borrows a little too much from the ZL1 for me. I know the real difference is under the hood, but going down the street they will look very similar. I liked the world where no other Camaro looked like the ZL1. It still bothers me that most people don't know if my SS is a V6 or V8. That being said I guess most people will not know my ZL1 is supercharged, exotic slaying beast
To me, not really no. Sure it has the same wheels (which were originally the SSX wheels, unless you ordered the polished) but the front is an SS w/ a splitter. The ZL1 fascia and hood insert is what really sets it apart so from others in the front, so no they don't look the same... maybe from the side since the skirts and wheel combo but still I would have to say no overall it doesn't look to similar to the ZL1.

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Does it really matter that much what other people think?

And do you think everyone's gonna look at the ZL-1 and 1LE and mistake them for each other? Joe Blow doesn't even know what a ZL-1 or a 1LE is-- same with most of the general population.

I don't know about you, but I prefer a sleeper anyway... which is what I'm building my poor, lowly LT into
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:49 AM   #4
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Nope. Hood is different. Fascia is different. I'm certain it will SOUND different.
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:49 AM   #5
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There is a hand full of SS's here that look like a ZL1 and one ZL1 has yet to be delivered so whats the big deal??
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:50 AM   #6
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As The Rock typically says "It doesn't matter what you think!"

haha

Each model has its own unique owner. One may like one and dislike another. We see it all the time here. Wants a SS but likes the V6 fascia or a V6 owner who likes the SS fascia. 1LT owner liked it had cloth instead of leather.... So on and so forth..

Don't hate on other peoples choices. GM is excellent at marketing.
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:51 AM   #7
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The 1LE in my opinion is the Camaro Ls7 concept without the Almighty LS7
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:52 AM   #8
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Agreed, seems that everything that would differentiate the ZL1 from other models was 'borrowed' for this package. Everything except the hood looks similar, all the front, side, rear body moldings, the exhaust, and wheels look the same.
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:54 AM   #9
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The look doesn't bother me.
What bothers me is more around the fact that with the 1LE in the mix at $40k I am having trouble seeing the $15k price difference to the ZL1
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Old 03-27-2012, 10:00 AM   #10
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Agreed, seems that everything that would differentiate the ZL1 from other models was 'borrowed' for this package. Everything except the hood looks similar, all the front, side, rear body moldings, the exhaust, and wheels look the same.


My wife saw the 1LE and said "Wow that looks like the ZL1". I am not trying to be a ZL1 snob (especial since I don't have mine yet ; ) but I wish the 1LE was more unique and less ZL1 diet. For those who don't mind their 60K ZL1 looking like a less powerful model, would you purchase a Camaro LS with a LS9 for 65K
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Old 03-27-2012, 10:04 AM   #11
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It doesn't bother me at all. The ENTIRE line-up looks SO good to me. I think there's enough to distinguish the models.

I am going to add that I'm stupid-happy Team CAMARO continues to improve the car. They don't take it's sales lead for granted and it seems to me, they are doing they're best to keep us interested. KUDOS for that

Thanks, GM.

You know - back on topic - it might be nicer to see different wheels, however, ZL1 does enjoy optional wheels that are different, so I really don't care much. I think the 1LE wheels are the best GM's made to memory. I think it's a good balance. There's enough to still justify what ZL1 has, but enough to make 1LE stand on it's own.
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Old 03-27-2012, 10:16 AM   #12
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While the ZL1 and 1LE look alike in some ways, in my opinion, they look really different. Not enough to loose sleep over.
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I don't doubt that anyone that knows cars will be able to tell the difference, I just don't get why they seem to want all the models to start blurring together.
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:18 AM   #14
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The look doesn't bother me.
What bothers me is more around the fact that with the 1LE in the mix at $40k I am having trouble seeing the $15k price difference to the ZL1
Different rear, shocks, Injectors, Tune, S/C, brakes(Maybe?), tires and warrenty. > 15k
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:25 AM   #15
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Just to be different I could see myself in a 1LE and throwing a crate 7 litre in it. That would be cool.
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:27 AM   #16
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1LE looks similar to ZL1 until you punch the gas pedal.
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:29 AM   #17
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Grille, Splitter/Spoiler and Wheels/Tires are the same... Nothing else is, appearance-wise. And the "average Joe" will have a tough time identifying those similarities, and most of those couldn't care less.

"Crate LS7"? Why not wait for the GM version?!

A ZEE by another name/engine is still a ZEE...
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:29 AM   #18
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Honestly I think all the Camaros look alike from the v6 to the Lz1
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:30 AM   #19
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I don't think it looks at all like a zl1. They both look good in there own way.
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:36 AM   #20
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Considering they all start with the base Camaro, it's hard to avoid that. Most people that are not car people will never blink an eye at the difference between a v6 and a SS/1LE/ZL1.
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Old 03-27-2012, 11:54 AM   #21
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I think the 1LE should be called the SS with a ZL1 appearance pkg. It reminds me of how the GS pkg on the Vett make it look just like a Z06.
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Honestly I think all the Camaros look alike from the v6 to the Lz1
Man, I can't wait to see a LZ1, never heard of one of those!! J/K!

I do agree that they all look SIMILAR (and they should since they're all the same base car), but to say a ZL1 and a V6 look alike is like saying a Subaru Impreza looks like a WRX STi.

To the trained eye, they definitely look different (even my wife can spot the differences). To the untrained eye, they probably don't care anyway!

Back on topic, I think the 1LE looks great, but I love the looks of the ZL1 more. There are enough distinct features that set it apart for a true enthusiast to know the difference, then there is the matter of the GO pedal....
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The look doesn't bother me.
What bothers me is more around the fact that with the 1LE in the mix at $40k I am having trouble seeing the $15k price difference to the ZL1
When GM offers full dosclosure on all technical details of 1LE, I'd suggest comparing them to ZL1. There is a lot more technology, at least at this point, in ZL1 to making it a great all-around sports car. 1LE sounds to be more track oriented, so it doesn't have all the technology stuffed into ZL1. I thought GM might add some more goodies into 1LE (or what I thought may eventually be Z28) from ZL1, but it's hard to argue with the price
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I don't think it looks like the ZL-1. It looks more like a SS with different wheels. which is how is should be.

The 1LE package is really just a performace pack to the Z28 in the past. So since there is no Z28 it is just a Perfromace pack for the SS.

To me the zL-1 gets it looks form the hood and facia which ths 1LE.

It hink peopel get too caught up in this. I mean when you look at a first getn camaro the packages were very minor tweeks just like they are doing today.
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The look doesn't bother me.
What bothers me is more around the fact that with the 1LE in the mix at $40k I am having trouble seeing the $15k price difference to the ZL1
mag ride suspention ~3k
lsa motor 6-7k (price the LSA then the LS3 big $$$ dif.)
all the track pack ~3k
updraded trany, diff, etc should make up the other ~2k

that gets you to 15k.

now on the flip side if somebody does not want the mag ride just boost or add N/a power to the 1lE. The 1le has teh .74 5th so all those people that drive in the 190's regularly would get there extra top end.
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