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I own a V6 20 20.83%
I own a V6 but will wait for a core exchange 7 7.29%
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I own a SS but will wait for a core exchange 21 21.88%
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Old 04-22-2012, 02:34 PM   #301
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Old 04-22-2012, 07:30 PM   #302
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Video update!!

Ok guys here's the videos i promised for installing the master cylinder and bleeding it. I'm not a hollywood actor and trying to remember what i wanted to say while in front of the camera was a challenge. I think i pretty much covered the important stuff and if you can't figure out how to do it after watching the videos then you shouldn't be attempting to do this at all. Take it to a shop and have them install it.

couple of things I forgot to say , the ratchet wrench is for getting the bolt with the nut out easier. The pick is for removing the clip on the lower line of the master cylinder if you don't have finger nails, and if your thinking you can use a vacuum hand pump on the bleed to get the air out your wrong it won't work don't even bother. It will just suck air at the bleeder threads.

If anyone has any questions feel free to ask.
also if someone could bring up the vids for me that would be great, i don't know why i can't get them to load on this computer.

within the next few days i should have the first batch of cylinders ready to ship and i will post an update.

http://youtu.be/l8vacHyCInw

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Old 04-22-2012, 07:44 PM   #303
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I can't say for sure that it will fix your problem, Is your clutch fluid clean? have you ever had it flushed out? how many miles are on your car? These are all questions going through my head. First thing i would do is have someone flush the clutch fluid so its clean and new.
No I have not had it flushed. Short story. At 5000 or so miles I started getting high rpm shift grind at 5500 rpm or higher first it was intermittent then became daily at lower RPMs. I took it in they replaced forks and synchros and also replaced 1st and 2nd gear. About 3 months and 6000 miles later started all over again. this time GM district service engineer refused to allow repair and still has too this date. So now at 43k miles been driving with grind was really bad now really only appears on down shift. Clutch feels loose and has a very low rate of return. Compared too my gfs manual Camaro on hers there its alot of kickback. I'm sure there its internal damage however it's still notchy.

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Old 04-22-2012, 08:20 PM   #304
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No I have not had it flushed. Short story. At 5000 or so miles I started getting high rpm shift grind at 5500 rpm or higher first it was intermittent then became daily at lower RPMs. I took it in they replaced forks and synchros and also replaced 1st and 2nd gear. About 3 months and 6000 miles later started all over again. this time GM district service engineer refused to allow repair and still has too this date. So now at 43k miles been driving with grind was really bad now really only appears on down shift. Clutch feels loose and has a very low rate of return. Compared too my gfs manual Camaro on hers there its alot of kickback. I'm sure there its internal damage however it's still notchy.

Im going to try the pressure plate route with service department
get the fluid flushed while your there. make sure they flush the whole system and not just the reservoir
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Thanks for the vids ! I have a couple of questions...

1- When you're bleeding the system, do you always have the bungee attached ?
2 - What is the inside diameter of the hose ?

3 - In what order will you be shipping these out

Any chance you could post a pic of how the hose looks attached to the bleeder in the SS ??
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Old 04-23-2012, 06:28 AM   #306
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Thanks for the vids ! I have a couple of questions...

1- When you're bleeding the system, do you always have the bungee attached ?
Yes the bungee is attached the whole time your pumping because the pedal will get stuck to the floor. its just a back saver for when your in the car on the lift.

2 - What is the inside diameter of the hose ?
Good question never thought of that, we just grab any vacuum hose in the shop that will fit snug onto the bleeder tip. the one i used was 3/16 inside diameter.

3 - In what order will you be shipping these out
It's going to be first come first serve on the first batch i'm going to sell out quickly and I only have 21 of them. I'm still waiting for the others to get here. i'm hoping to fill the gaps with core exchanges but we'll see. when they are ready to ship after the first batch is sold out who ever else has paid for one will be next in line.

Any chance you could post a pic of how the hose looks attached to the bleeder in the SS ??
I don't have any pics of this and my car has a remote bleeder so I can't take a pic of it on mine. its pretty straight forward the hose fits snug over the tip of the bleeder its just used during bleeding so you don't make a mess and so you can see the air bubbles in the clear bottle.
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So I have about 2000 km on my the new master still works like a charm...
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Old 04-23-2012, 08:59 AM   #308
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So I have about 2000 km on my the new master still works like a charm...
good to know , thanks for reporting
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Nice videos they will be helpful for sure, I do have one question. I have the separate reservoir for my system that I installed, how much fluid is pumped out when you bleed the system? In other words is there enough fluid in the small separate reservoir or is it going to have to be topped off during the bleeding process? Thanks again!

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Nice videos they will be helpful for sure, I do have one question. I have the separate reservoir for my system that I installed, how much fluid is pumped out when you bleed the system? In other words is there enough fluid in the small separate reservoir or is it going to have to be topped off during the bleeding process? Thanks again!

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Yes This is one of the things i forgot to mention, your going to have to keep checking your resevoir fluid level. you will need to add more fluid as you bleed. Good question
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OK I have another one for you. I have a pump up style power bleeder. If I get a cap that fits my reservoir and modify it to hook up to the bleeder can I bleed the system that way or do I still need to run thru the procedure of pumping the pedal? Thanks

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OK I have another one for you. I have a pump up style power bleeder. If I get a cap that fits my reservoir and modify it to hook up to the bleeder can I bleed the system that way or do I still need to run thru the procedure of pumping the pedal? Thanks

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If you have a power bleeder that will pressure the resevoir yes you can try it that way. you may still need to do a few pumps to finish it up. I didn't include that in the video because i didn't want to confuse anyone.
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Yeah I don't blame you, the simpler the better, but like you I like messin with things....LOL I checked with the service dept at my dealer today to get their price on doing the install....I'll be doing this myself!!!
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Yeah I don't blame you, the simpler the better, but like you I like messin with things....LOL I checked with the service dept at my dealer today to get their price on doing the install....I'll be doing this myself!!!

how much did they want to install?
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I couldn't believe it, they quoted me a price of $440.00. He said it was a 4 hour job, I'm guessing they are doing it blindfolded if it takes them 4 hours.
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I couldn't believe it, they quoted me a price of $440.00. He said it was a 4 hour job, I'm guessing they are doing it blindfolded if it takes them 4 hours.
GOOD GRAVY that's 110 bucks a HOUR for labor.
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I couldn't believe it, they quoted me a price of $440.00. He said it was a 4 hour job, I'm guessing they are doing it blindfolded if it takes them 4 hours.
What! I can have the whole job done and out the door in a half hour.
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Yep I figure I should have the whole thing done in an hour, and I've never done one before. I couldn't believe it either, he said the warranty work time shows 4 hours, and they wonder why none of us want them touching our cars.
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Thats unbelieveable, had a girl bring in a lexus today after getting estimates for work from the dealer. They wanted $1393.00 for a whole bunch of work and 60,000 mile service. I did everything they were going to do for $440.00 dealers are rediculous but thats why they live in mansions and I live above my shop. But I sleep well at night. They also said she needed front brakes, she didn't need front brakes they were like brand new.
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I actually had 2 chances to do that yesterday Badger, in the afternoon I went to the GMC/Buick dealer 1/2 mile down the street from the Chevy dealer to try and get a cap for my separate reservoir to modify it to fit my power bleeder for when I do the clutch master cylinder install (myself LOL). Well get this, for the GTO clutch reservoir cap and gasket they wanted $11.95 for the gasket, and $34.95 for the cap plus 6% tax......my exact words were are you fu#$ing kidding me. I ordered the whole reservoir from 2SSRS on here yesterday for $32 delivered to my door. So it was quite a day at the stealerships.
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