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View Poll Results: if you definitely want a cylinder please chose V6 or SS. need to figure out how many
I own a V6 20 20.83%
I own a V6 but will wait for a core exchange 7 7.29%
I own a SS 50 52.08%
I own a SS but will wait for a core exchange 21 21.88%
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:06 AM   #76
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What is the theory behind why this would fix the high rpm 1st to 2nd grind? I've heard others say the grind may be caused by inadequate synchros in the tranny. Others have also said that GM acknowledged this for LS3 guys and started using carbon fiber synchros to eliminate the grind. The synchro theory makes sense, but I don't understand how a new master cylinder that flows better and faster would help with grind. I am not an expert by any means, so please school me.

The tranny does have issues and the carbon blockers being used now helps but these trannys are just notchy going into second so the two important tranny fixes are changing to the carbon blockers and changing the fluid to royal purple or red line.

after a lot of us had already done this and our trannies shift fine during regular use when trying to shift from first to second under hard acceleration at high rpm we still get a grind and we believe its because the clutch isnt releasing far enough or fast enough.

now with the new master cylinder you get more flow and a tad more travel out of the pedal which pushes the slave cylinder a little further so now the clutch wont be hanging up and it will disengage faster eliminating the grind we all hate.
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:27 AM   #77
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IMPORTANT UPDATE!

Someone has brought to my attention that the V6 clutch master cylinder isnt the same part number as the SS. So i went to confirm this and he is correct. guy at the dealership gave me the wrong information.
I'm going to have to order a V6 master cylinder and see if it can be modified like the SS.

ugh! back to R & D

Thank you Tom for noticing that.
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:43 AM   #78
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:03 PM   #79
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I just ordered a V6 one, should be here by the end of the week with the SS one i ordered.

i'll see what i can do as soon as it arrives.
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I just ordered a V6 one, should be here by the end of the week with the SS one i ordered.

i'll see what i can do as soon as it arrives.
Dude on behalf of all of us with a v6 thank you...
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:10 PM   #81
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Dude on behalf of all of us with a v6 thank you...
no problem , i'm sorry for the mix up i was told they were the same part number but they are not. so we'll see what it looks like when it gets here
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:35 PM   #82
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I just ordered a V6 one, should be here by the end of the week with the SS one i ordered.

i'll see what i can do as soon as it arrives.

Thanks so much for helping our cause!!
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I just ordered a V6 one, should be here by the end of the week with the SS one i ordered.

i'll see what i can do as soon as it arrives.
Count me in, for a v6 one. And thank you for taking the time and spending the effort to do this!
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Add me to the list of people that want one. Too bad I'm in NH otherwise I would let you use my car as a test mule.

I don't have 2nd gear grinding issue. I do race my car more than street drive it, so I have had a lot of issues with the POS clutch setup.

Hot lapping it on the Autocross has caused my clutch pedal to stay on the floor - on more than one occasion. LPE return spring was a band-aid and worked at the fest. I have had a seperate fluid reservoir for the last year and a half.

I have my second LPE ZR-1 dual disc clutch ready to be installed (20% grippier and another $2K), as I have smoked the present ZR-1 one pretty good a few times in third gear.

I'm willing to try *anything* that will fix this ^%$#@ clutch issue.
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Add me to the list of people that want one. Too bad I'm in NH otherwise I would let you use my car as a test mule.

I don't have 2nd gear grinding issue. I do race my car more than street drive it, so I have had a lot of issues with the POS clutch setup.

Hot lapping it on the Autocross has caused my clutch pedal to stay on the floor - on more than one occasion. LPE return spring was a band-aid and worked at the fest. I have had a seperate fluid reservoir for the last year and a half.

I have my second LPE ZR-1 dual disc clutch ready to be installed (20% grippier and another $2K), as I have smoked the present ZR-1 one pretty good a few times in third gear.

I'm willing to try *anything* that will fix this ^%$#@ clutch issue.
I hear you , were hoping this will solve the problem.
I'm suppose to recieve the the SS master cylinder today then i can modify it and test it on the first grinder to show up to my shop.
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I hear you , were hoping this will solve the problem.
I'm suppose to recieve the the SS master cylinder today then i can modify it and test it on the first grinder to show up to my shop.
Wow wish I had a V8 and live closer to jersey.
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:mad0 260:

Got the new master cylinder today , opened the box and there was a blend door motor inside I cant win i swear!
someone put the wrong label on the box. now i have to wait till the end of the week and see if the other dealer i ordered parts from delivers the right stuff.

sorry guys between gm and the chevy dealers we are getting screwed over.
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Have you tried ordering parts through Maureen at Rodgers Chevrolet? Her username is MaureenM@RodgersChevrolet
no i haven't but i have two really good dealers i use but someone from the plant in michigan put the wrong label on this box . so aggravating.
I'll give Maureen a shout and see what she has to say maybe she'll hook us up.
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Update

ok I recieved the V6 clutch master cylinder today. It looks just like the SS one only different part number. i'll get testing/working on it right after lunch.
Still waiting for the SS one, the paper said it was back ordered so i dont know how this is going to pan out if i want to order 20- 50 at a time. well see , i'll be calling my contact at the dealer to discuss a little later.
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ok I recieved the V6 clutch master cylinder today. It looks just like the SS one only different part number. i'll get testing/working on it right after lunch.
Still waiting for the SS one, the paper said it was back ordered so i dont know how this is going to pan out if i want to order 20- 50 at a time. well see , i'll be calling my contact at the dealer to discuss a little later.
It would be interesting to see if the SS master cylinder stock flows more than the V6 stock. I though about switch mine out for an SS one at one point but I didn't know if it would make a difference.
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It would be interesting to see if the SS master cylinder stock flows more than the V6 stock. I though about switch mine out for an SS one at one point but I didn't know if it would make a difference.
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The V6 one flows exactly the same amount as the SS one.
I haven't had a chance to take it apart yet but it looks exactly the same as an SS except for the part that snaps onto the pedal.
If the insides are the same as the SS which i'd amagine they are then i see no reason why i can't make these flow more.
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The V6 one flows exactly the same amount as the SS one.
I haven't had a chance to take it apart yet but it looks exactly the same as an SS except for the part that snaps onto the pedal.
If the insides are the same as the SS which i'd amagine they are then i see no reason why i can't make these flow more.
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ok I recieved the V6 clutch master cylinder today. It looks just like the SS one only different part number. i'll get testing/working on it right after lunch.
Still waiting for the SS one, the paper said it was back ordered so i dont know how this is going to pan out if i want to order 20- 50 at a time. well see , i'll be calling my contact at the dealer to discuss a little later.
Maybe the possibility of core returns?
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Maybe the possibility of core returns?
I was thinking about that too. well see
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I bit the bullet, i ordered 20 master cylinders. thats all they will let me order at a time.
since the one said back ordered today i figured i better put the order in now so were not held up any longer.
Lets just hope these 20 hold pressure and arent like the first one i got.

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