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Old 03-30-2012, 04:36 PM   #15
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The more I think about it, with the 1LE being a reality now the 5Gen Z28 can only exist with the LS7. It makes pure marketing sense.
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Old 03-30-2012, 04:45 PM   #16
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The more I think about it, with the 1LE being a reality now the 5Gen Z28 can only exist with the LS7. It makes pure marketing sense.
It certainly seems possible. But you might have to wait another model year.

Would the LS7 be cheaper for GM than the LT-1? I wonder how expensive it would be to GM to plug in an existing engine. But I am sure it will cost them/us more than the difference between the crates.
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Old 03-30-2012, 04:49 PM   #17
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Being so close to Easter, I called upon myself for a lil "resurrection" of sorts...

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...149090&page=62

Verily, verily, I say unto thee...the truth is at hand...all 6-speeds of it, and all 500 of the King's horses...

Alas, as in the Good Book, beware of Brothers...who may be SLAIN...
I have already read that thread. It sounds awful close to what I said. I didn't say how there would be more power. But I will keep reading and shut up.

(The Z28 regulars say amen to that.)
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Old 03-30-2012, 04:57 PM   #18
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It certainly seems possible. But you might have to wait another model year.

Would the LS7 be cheaper for GM than the LT-1? I wonder how expensive it would be to GM to plug in an existing engine. But I am sure it will cost them/us more than the difference between the crates.
I believe it could be done for mid to high $40's. That fills the $ and performance gap perfect. The Camaro at this point has more than paid for itself. Now market the crap out of it with "THE BIGGEST" name in the Camaro family...Z28! What a send off of both 427 and 5Gen.
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Old 03-30-2012, 06:37 PM   #19
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The problem I have is and is often over looked is that an LS7 cost the same as an LSA so I dont see how it will come in at a price pint much less than the ZL1. I say wait for the Gen V v8 that comes out for the 2014 MY Vette as well as the 7 spd Manual transmission that hooked up to the GEN V LT1 V8.
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:47 PM   #20
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I have already read that thread. It sounds awful close to what I said. I didn't say how there would be more power. But I will keep reading and shut up.

(The Z28 regulars say amen to that.)
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Come in and enjoy yourself................ cold ones are in the fridge.

If one or some of us seem rude please don't take it personally we just get tired of the SOSDD.

With the announcement of the 1LE, it's not a question of if we get our Z/28, but when.
GM hurry the *f u c k* up and announce something..
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I believe it could be done for mid to high $40's. That fills the $ and performance gap perfect. The Camaro at this point has more than paid for itself. Now market the crap out of it with "THE BIGGEST" name in the Camaro family...Z28! What a send off of both 427 and 5Gen.
...awesome Chance, succinct, and to the point in as few words as possible....totally awesome ....GM listen to this man and let's party like it's 1999,..... now is not the time to be cautious....let's corner the market...drinks are on me.....!!!
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Old 03-30-2012, 08:36 PM   #22
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...the LS7 has consistantly been picked the weapon of choice to use in a Gen5 Z/28 as Lowdown and 2cnChance have detailed. Many others feel this way as well and it has been widely discussed in depth in the Z/28 threads....seems like the "natural" <as in "aspirated" > choice. Now...maybe they ought to beef up the LS3 like so many others say can be done easily. And I agree, it wouldn't take much. It's already available from GMPP with over 500 HP, the stock LS3 with a more aggressive cam will stoke the fires...but we have to bring in that "recertify" word again. If they don't want to offend the "Vette crowd by letting us borrow the LS7, then let's turn up the wick in the GM engine development department on the LS3, and recertify it < and assembly line produce it>. That's the only two choices I see. One or the other....Damn the torpedo's...full speed ahead...
I do believe though that the LS7 has a slightly higher red line than the LS3, that is one more reason I'd be in favor of the LS7.
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I do believe though that the LS7 has a slightly higher red line than the LS3, that is one more reason I'd be in favor of the LS7.
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...hand built, tighter tollerances, titanium rods, less reciprocating mass...yes I agree, but we could bring the price down a bunch on an assembly line tweeked LS3...to a price range even a frugal accountant would be in favor of, for not too much trade off in RPM or performance.
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The GMPP LS3 crate would be perfect for price and performance. It's half the price of the LS7, with 480 HP and 470 TQ ... Not too shabby if you ask me, and would be a perfect compromise.
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The GMPP LS3 crate would be perfect for price and performance. It's half the price of the LS7, with 480 HP and 470 TQ ... Not too shabby if you ask me, and would be a perfect compromise.
...good suggestion SS...there are some possibilities there...!
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Old 03-30-2012, 10:04 PM   #26
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How many billions has GM invested in the next gen V-8's? They should be ready to start recouping those expenses. Also, I think the days of reserving the finest goodies for the Vette are over. If the LT-1 is ready I see no reason why it couldn't be intoduced in a fifth gen and what better model to introduce it than a Z28.
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Old 03-31-2012, 02:05 PM   #27
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...awesome Chance, succinct, and to the point in as few words as possible....totally awesome ....GM listen to this man and let's party like it's 1999,..... now is not the time to be cautious....let's corner the market...drinks are on me.....!!!
Thank you, thank you very much! My question to GM is, why not?
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At the risk of riling certain folks, let's take a stab @ building a $48K Base-priced LS7'd ZEE (NOT that we haven't done this a time 'r two):

1LE = "Under $40K"
DELETE the two 6-way Power Seats (when AG1 [P. Dr. Seat] and AG2 [P. Pass. Seat] were freeflow = $600/pr.)
ADD 1LS Seats-cloth
ADD CTS-V Brembos/2-piece Fr. rotors = $595
ADD LS7 = $7K (difference to LS3 "in crate")
ADD RamAir/Extractor Hood = $1,000

Depending on how much "under $40K" the 1LE is, there may be enough left over for a few incidentals...ZL1 side skirts, etc.

Heated/Ventilated Sport Seats in a CTS-V list for $3,500...over the price of Leather CTS seats with Dual 6-way Power...which, in a less-is-more ZEE, could be over $4Gs. Now you're over $50...and I start thinkin' nose-bleed...
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