Gas mileage?

[smokingcamaro]

I got this on the Highway going about 65 mph, Pretty good if you ask me!!!

['11CamaroLS]

Patrick864 RS i heard getting the trifecta tune will help MPG. im getting mine soon i will let you know. im sure others that have it can chime in if this is true or not

[Patrick864 RS]

Originally Posted by maverickmage

Sorry dude... you are spoiled, and it isn't because your parents gets you bunch of nice stuff. You're spoiled because instead of feeling grateful for what they did get you, you come on here to whine about how they didn't get you an SS. If you get the mileage that you get with your current car, it would have been worse on an SS.

Ok...last person I can take. Everybody is taking the comment the wrong way. I simply meant that we bought the v6 because for a car with this hp it was good since I would be driving 30 minutes to school. Look up ss gas mileage on here and look. I've seen ss drivers getting 31 on highway and 23 or so city I think? Stock. They posted pics and everything. But simply the only reason why I got the v6 was because it's mpg. If it wasn't for that I would've gotten the SS. I'm not complaining or crying. I'm 19. I love my v6. Go on eBay. You can get a 2010 SS with 15k miles RS package for like 25k. We paid 32k fresh out of the factory RS for mine. So I'm not sure how saying that makes me sound like I don't appreciate my car and what my family did. Hopefully this is the LAST time I have to explain myself.

[TheBlack-CyberGray-Pearl]

So anyways.... I went and test drove a slightly used 2SS and while i was driving it i checked what gas mileage the car had been getting (i obviously don't know how the previous driver was driving) but it said the car was averaging 13.8 MPG.

It had a full Corsa exhaust so i'm guessing if he was into modding that wanted that kind of rumble from his car that he gave it a good amount of gas sometimes, but that's quite a bit lower that the 19.8 that i'm getting and i get on my v6 ALOT....

[Patrick864 RS]

Originally Posted by 11SynergyGr&Bl

I just took a trip to cali, 800 miles later, hit 12k miles finally. Car is stock as far as performace goes, rx catch can. 28.7mpg. In the city is were i mostly drive, manual, i take off light from stops, dont use the motor when slowing down, ive seen 23-24 mpg. Thats babing it, lol. Ill see 20-21mpg city if i keep it light on acceleration, with some spirited driving. Going to install my new injen intake(reason i drove to cali, haha) and my new black iceolator! Woot, cant wait. My mpg should go up 1-3. Also i use 87 octane. No reason to put 89 or 91 in when our cars drive fine with 87.

I have the AEM intake, ported TB, and black ice, with axle back exhaust all thinking this would help my car open upand breathe and increase my mpg but I've been slowly disappointed lol keep me updated on what yo get after the install you'll love the power from those mods.

[Patrick864 RS]

Originally Posted by '11CamaroLS

Patrick864 RS i heard getting the trifecta tune will help MPG. im getting mine soon i will let you know. im sure others that have it can chime in if this is true or not

Yeah the tune was in my sight. But it voids the warranty and tunes void the warranty right? So I'm probably going to have to wait 3 years 36k to get the tune :( especially for 300 dollars now that's a heck of a deal for the reviews I've read on here about tunes. After that warranty is up, trifecta will be on there the first chance I get. Can't wait to hear nice looking camaro too!

[Patrick864 RS]

Ok, for some reason a few days ago I learned that we had "sport mode" or S mode on these cars. Why doesnt the dealership tell us this? If I wouldn't have randomly came across a thread about itbi would've never known. Anybody know the dif in mpg while in sport mode? I've heard all types, it's better and worse. I know how it works making the gears longer and shift harder...but I was wondering if this "S" mode could get us better gas mileage just driving normally around?

[Mantis RS]

Originally Posted by Patrick864 RS

Ok, for some reason a few days ago I learned that we had "sport mode" or S mode on these cars. Why doesnt the dealership tell us this? If I wouldn't have randomly came across a thread about itbi would've never known. Anybody know the dif in mpg while in sport mode? I've heard all types, it's better and worse. I know how it works making the gears longer and shift harder...but I was wondering if this "S" mode could get us better gas mileage just driving normally around?

This will most likely not increase, but rather decrease your mpg. With it staying in each gear longer based on throttle input, you use more fuel based on rpms. The easiest way to save gas, if you want control of your shifting is to put it in sport mode and use the paddle shifters on the steering wheel. I'm only geting about 17-18 city with mine, but I like to punch it alot and listen to the exhaust. If I drive like a wuss, I'll get closer to 20-22 range, and on the highway it fluxes from anywhere between 24-28 for me, just depends on conditions and how I'm driving. You have to take into account driving with A/C on or windows down(aerodynamics) makes your car work harder at higher speeds.

[Patrick864 RS]

Originally Posted by Mantis RS

This will most likely not increase, but rather decrease your mpg. With it staying in each gear longer based on throttle input, you use more fuel based on rpms. The easiest way to save gas, if you want control of your shifting is to put it in sport mode and use the paddle shifters on the steering wheel. I'm only geting about 17-18 city with mine, but I like to punch it alot and listen to the exhaust. If I drive like a wuss, I'll get closer to 20-22 range, and on the highway it fluxes from anywhere between 24-28 for me, just depends on conditions and how I'm driving. You have to take into account driving with A/C on or windows down(aerodynamics) makes your car work harder at higher speeds.

Good info! Thanks alot for the help! I've heard many opinions on the sport. I've been driving it in sport just to see what i get. Then next tank I fill I'll probably do all drive. I'm getting 20.5 right now which is quite impressive for me lol I'll let you know how this tank and the next tank end up...I make same routes so there shouldn't be any factors that would mess it up. Nice synergy btw

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Now long have you had the throttle body and ICE-olator on?

[Patrick864 RS]

Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

Now long have you had the throttle body and ICE-olator on?

Ive had them on...since March 6th. Its been a good amount of miles since I installed them too. Love your car by the way, I know im not the first to tell but I will be happy to jump in line I would say something about wanting FI but I dont want to stur up anything again lol you get pretty decent mpgs? ive heard with low psi you get awesome gas mileage.

[Codeman1407]

Just remember, when you're sitting at Idle, your average MPG is falling, since you're technically using gas but not moving. If you sit in your car with it in park (waiting on people, etc.) is will make your MPG go down. That kinda skews the MPG number in the DIC, in my opinion.

[Patrick864 RS]

Originally Posted by Codeman1407

Just remember, when you're sitting at Idle, your average MPG is falling, since you're technically using gas but not moving. If you sit in your car with it in park (waiting on people, etc.) is will make your MPG go down. That kinda skews the MPG number in the DIC, in my opinion.

Yeah I have put that in my thinking here, kinda occurred to me after I got the car when I watched it fall...that and me stopping at many places and having to crank the car on and off several times. Is that the heritage grille on your car? I love those but its a little pricey. Im thinking about getting justa 2 piece black billet grille 170 shipped off ebay. looks pretty much the same. Also love the rims as well, CGM is such a great color. You can do so many combinations and it look good.

[TastyBake]

Based on the OP, I don't think he' spoiled.

He was just pointing out that the intent of the V6 was to save on MPG and accept the less HP. When he saw, like I did, some SS folks getting 20-22 mpg avg (not city), he pointing out he could have gone back and got the V8 instead. Kinda felt the same way initally.

But you and your parents are still saving a lot in insurance cost, using regular fuel and maintenance. That money is best used for books for college. Get the V8 after graduation.

[Bumblebee2012]

2012 2SS Manual, 900 miles on the car at the end of the trip.

I just did a 285 mile trip with my son to buy a pistol, I filled with Sunoco Ultra right at the entrance to the interstate and reset the cars average MPG reading. I drive all interstate, no AC, most of the time with cruise set at 84 and came back with cruise set at 68 (my 16 year old son drove back) and refilled at the same Sunoco and did the math to get 21.1 MPG. The cars computer was saying 21.8 MPG average.

I was surprised that the computer was so close. My Excursion diesel overhead computer was an absolute joke with its feel good average economy readings, it was often showing 3 to 5 MPG higher than doing the math.

In case your wondering, I got a Springfield 1911 that is just to sweet!



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[Patrick864 RS]

Originally Posted by TastyBake

Based on the OP, I don't think he' spoiled.

He was just pointing out that the intent of the V6 was to save on MPG and accept the less HP. When he saw, like I did, some SS folks getting 20-22 mpg avg (not city), he pointing out he could have gone back and got the V8 instead. Kinda felt the same way initally.

But you and your parents are still saving a lot in insurance cost, using regular fuel and maintenance. That money is best used for books for college. Get the V8 after graduation.

Exactly that's EXACTLY what I meant by that. And bumblebee that's a sweet gun it was well worth the drive lol now if only I lived near the highway and not 100% city!!!

[XclusivEric]

Originally Posted by Patrick864 RS

Ok...if you read mods below in my signature I thought I would gain some mpgs. Before I did anything to my car it was about 9 months and that was intake and axle back exhaust. I was getting 19.9 mpg most all city. After all my mods I figured my mpgs would go up...but I haven't seen anything what so ever. Kinda disappointed cause I figured it would help a little. The reason why I got a v6 was because I figured it would be a good dd and gas user. But I read SS owners getting well over me stock. Since "it takes less power to move the vehicle" why didn't my parents think of this before I got it? I could've had 426 ponies instead of trying to mod my v6 I was just seeing what other v6 owners mpgs were to see if I'm doing something wrong. Mines also automatic mainly all city driving.

Hey bro, yea you're lucky you have some parents that helped you get the car... I had 2 beaters through high school I paid for myself. $200 each. Anyways to answer your question. People think by adding mods to their car they will save gas. They obviously have no idea how engines work. First off... your engine requires air, fuel, and spark to run.

When your crankshaft turns your pistons move up and down in correlation with your intake and exhaust valves opening and closing.

When you allow more air into the engine it requires more fuel and/or spark to ignite. When you have a less restrictive exhaust your engine does breathe better. However, when your engine is able to remove all exhaust out of the combustion chamber it is replaced with more fresh air ready to ignite.

Your pistons completes 4 strokes in an entire cycle. When one goes down the intake valve opens allowing fresh air into the combustion chamber (Intake Stroke). As it comes back up it compresses the fresh air after the intake valve closes (Compression Stroke). Once compressed, your ECU or Distributor (depending on your engine) tell your spark plug to ignite causing a mini explosion in your combustion chamber. That explosion forces your piston back down (Power Stroke). As the piston comes back up again your exhaust valves open pushing the spent fuel-air mixture out through your exhaust manifold and mufflers.

Once this concept is realized you have to understand that the more air you push into an engine the more fuel it takes to ignite. An improper fuel-air mixture causes your engine to run lean or rich. If your engine is running lean then your not injecting enough fuel or in-taking too much air to keep your engine running smoothly. If your engine is running rich then too much fuel or not enough air is being pushed into the combustion chamber and is not being completely burnt off.

Also you have to realize on a stock exhaust system your engine isn't getting all of those spent gases out of the combustion chamber. With regular cast headers, your exhaust will fill up any space it can quickly go to, even if it's into another exhaust valve that may be open at any given time. One reasons why performance enthusiasts choose shorty or long tube headers. What these types of headers do is force the exhaust to travel further to the collector tube so it doesn't collect in a nearby valve. Thus, allowing better exhaust flow and allowing more of the spent gases out of the combustion chamber during your exhaust stroke. Which therein allows more of a fresh air/fuel mixture into the combustion chamber.

So as you can see, whenever you increase the air intake or improve your exhaust system your engine will require more fuel. Don't be the fool who thinks they can just bolt on an exhaust system and intake and not require a tune. You might be able to get by with one or the other, but not both.

Do tons of research. Learning is a must if you plan on doing anything to your car. Learn to do things right the first time instead of paying for it in the long run.

[gutterball]

Patrick, a lot of the camaro's are running to rich, and that's why the gas millage is not as good as it could be, a couple of months ago, I drove to Fl, on the way down, I avg just under 27 mpg. While I was down in Fl, I had a triffecta tune done to my car, The person doing the tune, told me I was running rich and adjusted the Air/Fuel ratio. the results, on the way back to Ct. I averaged over 30 MPG. ( 70-75mph) (32.5 @ 65mph)

[Patrick864 RS]

Originally Posted by gutterball

Patrick, a lot of the camaro's are running to rich, and that's why the gas millage is not as good as it could be, a couple of months ago, I drove to Fl, on the way down, I avg just under 27 mpg. While I was down in Fl, I had a triffecta tune done to my car, The person doing the tune, told me I was running rich and adjusted the Air/Fuel ratio. the results, on the way back to Ct. I averaged over 30 MPG. ( 70-75mph) (32.5 @ 65mph)

Wow that's crazy, looks like I might be purchasing the trifecta thanks to others on the thread since it might help my mods come together...increase mpg...and add a little power. Can't go wrong with that. Especially for the price you can get them for now that and I wanna do all the other sweet mods you can do like shift firmness and ghost cam. I never got it before cause I thought it voided warranty, but I've heard v6 doesn't count tunes just the v8s.

[Patrick864 RS]

Kinda thread jacking my own post...but I've drove my car a pretty fair amount since installing my TB and black ice, but didn't disconnect battery. I was thinking about doing a fuse pull overnight and see if the helps? I've read many posts saying it doesnt help the performance, but that's not what I want. I want my car to learn the mods and maybe see a dif? Opinions, bring them on

[Bobk]

19?, must be nice to afford all those mods.

[Mach]

Originally Posted by gutterball

Patrick, a lot of the camaro's are running to rich, and that's why the gas millage is not as good as it could be, a couple of months ago, I drove to Fl, on the way down, I avg just under 27 mpg. While I was down in Fl, I had a triffecta tune done to my car, The person doing the tune, told me I was running rich and adjusted the Air/Fuel ratio. the results, on the way back to Ct. I averaged over 30 MPG. ( 70-75mph) (32.5 @ 65mph)

Wow.. did you have your car on a dyno?

[Patrick864 RS]

Originally Posted by Bobk

19?, must be nice to afford all those mods.

yeah 19, but why does age play a factor? I worked for them myself just like everybody else on this forum...whats your point?

[Bobk]

Didn't mean to upset you and put you in a defenive mode but here's the point. I too, as did some of the other responders, thought you came across as a little spoiled. You, and three of your grade school friends, seem to have made out pretty good thanks to your generous parents. Congratulations, but not everyone who owns a new Camaro, 6 cylinder or otherwise, had that luxury. Face it, even a base level Camaro at approx. 23k is a hell of a present for graduation. The price of your mods alone are what some 19 year olds probably pay for their first car.
Either way, congratulaions on you car and mods, you sound like you've earned them.

[Patrick864 RS]

Thanks