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Old 03-31-2012, 12:05 AM   #1
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Is it worth it?

I was thinking, do u think that a zl1 is worth 55k close to 60k due when all the paperwork is done. Dont get me wrong this is an opinion thread. My opinion is that it is more wise to get a 2ss/rs used private party for like 30k and rather save the other 30 for a rainy day. Or u can buy another camaro. Maybe if u want you have 30k to mod the crap out of your 2ss, possibly make it as good if not better than a zl1. I know i dont know as much as u guys who actually own a camaro. So tell me what u would do
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Old 03-31-2012, 12:17 AM   #2
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The ZL1 for the most part and for those that are going to buy it are going after a limited production, super fast car that's quick out of the gate no mods needed. Most people that can afford it don't want to buy a car and then send it out to look like something that in the end still isn't a ZL1. Some will finance it and can't afford the $30k on to to build a lower end car that still is not a ZL1.

Could you build one for WAY cheaper then $50k? Absolutely you could, in the end is it a ZL1?? Nope, and most people that are buying it want the exclusivity of a ZL1 not a car built to look like one.

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then why would any one want a Z06 over a base c6 vette? this debate has always been around. the Zl1 is worth the money if you ask me. for what it offers and others cars in its price range.

But i would never buy a 55k-60k mustang or camaro. thats just me, would rather have a corvette or M3.
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Old 03-31-2012, 12:21 AM   #4
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then why would any one want a Z06 over a base c6 vette? this debate has always been around. the Zl1 is worth the money if you ask me. for what it offers and others cars in its price range.

But i would never buy a 55k-60k mustang or camaro. thats just me, would rather have a corvette or M3.
u have a 510hp camaro how much money did u put into mods?
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Old 03-31-2012, 12:25 AM   #5
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u have a 510hp camaro how much money did u put into mods?
total 10k, but engine power mods. idk around 6k. not totally sure
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Old 03-31-2012, 12:30 AM   #6
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total 10k, but engine power mods. idk around 6k. not totally sure
Nice, and kind of proves my point, 10k for a very sexy and fast car almost as fast as a zl1 and you saved 20k.
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Nice, and kind of proves my point, 10k for a very sexy and fast car almost as fast as a zl1 and you saved 20k.
while that is very true. the Zl1 is still overall a better car. its much more than power numbers. it had a very impressive Nürburgring lap time.

the SS does hold better value on what you are getting with the price. BUT again the Zl1 is priced where it should be. its worth the money to some people.
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Old 03-31-2012, 12:40 AM   #8
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I don't think any amount of modding or money will allow you to install the ZL1's mag ride suspension into an SS.
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Definitely not worth it in my opinion.
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Old 03-31-2012, 07:32 AM   #10
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Old 03-31-2012, 04:16 PM   #11
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just because I can't afford one, doesn't mean its not a screaming deal.
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Old 03-31-2012, 04:24 PM   #12
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That depends on one's financial status and what one values in a Camaro.
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Old 03-31-2012, 04:29 PM   #13
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You'll end up paying a lot more for a new, stock corvette to touch the performance numbers of the ZL1. If you aren't going to put the ZL1 on a track, by all means, mod an SS. Especially if you're going to park it in your garage and never drive it. Less ZL1's will be made. If you want a bad ass camaro that you can keep stock, race it occasionally, and still have a warranty, buy the ZL1. JMHO
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Old 03-31-2012, 04:32 PM   #14
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Nice, and kind of proves my point, 10k for a very sexy and fast car almost as fast as a zl1 and you saved 20k.
The ZL1 has one important feature a modded car does not. 3/36 warranty.
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Old 03-31-2012, 04:35 PM   #15
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It depends on what your definition of "worth" is...From a financial stand point, no car is ever "worth" what it costs new...all cars become "worth" less over time...(lol)...

You could probably find better investments with your money, unless you are a deep-pocketed, long term collector of rare, high end cars...A handful of ZL1's may fall into that category, but certainly no mass-produced, or highly modified SS's...

What they are worth in another sense, is personal to each owner...What to mod as you like mechanically or cosmetically, whether to do it yourself of have it done by someone else, what model to buy new or used...I don't think there is a right or wrong answer, everyone spends different amounts for different reasons on their car.

Like was said before, the ZL1 could be considered modded by the factory, good to go out of the box...Is it worth it?...depends on your point of view.
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Old 03-31-2012, 05:09 PM   #16
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It will cost more to mod an SS to zl1 performance #'s than a zl1 costs. The zl1 has more motor, upgraded trans and clutch, driveline, diff and axles. Then you have to think about brakes and suspension. By the time you upgrade all those components you have exceeded the cost of the zl1 with out the body and interior upgrades.
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Old 03-31-2012, 05:14 PM   #17
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If I did not already have an SS, I would probably want a ZL1. With that said, I am attached to my SS (first new car I've ever owned), so I am not willing to trade it.

I would also get destroyed on the trade in value, so it seems like a no brainer to just keep my current car, and maybe mod it a little in the future.
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Old 03-31-2012, 07:05 PM   #18
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Mag ride is something that is expensive and difficult to retrofit im sure, but most people can do without it, and wouldnt notice a huge difference. Most people driving camaros dont go to the track, and when they do, its normally a drag strip, to go straight
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Old 03-31-2012, 07:11 PM   #19
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Mag ride is something that is expensive and difficult to retrofit im sure, but most people can do without it, and wouldnt notice a huge difference. Most people driving camaros dont go to the track, and when they do, its normally a drag strip, to go straight
From what I heard its a very big and noticeable difference.

One thing... The ZL1 will retain its value a lot better than a modded SS
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The ZL1 is definitely worth the money, but if you have to ask us if it is or not, it's not for you.
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Old 03-31-2012, 09:05 PM   #21
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Financially, it's just crazy. How much faster can you go? If money is not a factor go for it. Is it worth it? But I know for sure 20k more than PKs SS, nah I'll pass. The Audi has has the magnetic shocks for a few years
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Another one of these threads, really? There is something that you have to remember which is tops on the list. You can go LAP AFTER LAP AFTER LAP with no brake fade and tranny fluid not overheated or rear diff overheated and suspension is awesome and then have the best riding Camaro on the street that has ever been produced.

I say you that you CANNOT do that in your 500+HP modded SS. Yes it will be fast and we love Camaro's but the value in the ZL1 is on the track. That is what it was made for.

Someone posted the right question, it depends on what YOU want to do with it to be able to tell it if it's worth the price to YOU.

It is certainly worth the price to me, that's why I am buying one!
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I got a 2ss convertible last week.. The dealership talked me into it instead of the ZL1.. Probably the wiser finiancial situation for me, especially since i got 0% interest on my loan.. But....
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I got a 2ss convertible last week.. The dealership talked me into it instead of the ZL1.. Probably the wiser finiancial situation for me, especially since i got 0% interest on my loan.. But....
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