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Old 04-04-2012, 08:17 PM   #76
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Lowdown was there and did the 1LE thing guys....so listen to him. Handbuilt LS3's will not happen...cost prohibitive...now lets move away from handbuilt engines some and think about another one that could be assembly line built that is currently done by hand....does a certain designation come to mind....?
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Lowdown was there and did the 1LE thing guys....so listen to him. Handbuilt LS3's will not happen...cost prohibitive...now lets move away from handbuilt engines some and think about another one that could be assembly line built that is currently done by hand....does a certain designation come to mind....?
How about the engine that's debuting sometime shortly. . .that's already getting testing in a new body of a certain bigger brother of our car. . .
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How about the engine that's debuting sometime shortly. . .that's already getting testing in a new body of a certain bigger brother of our car. . .
...and that will work as well I am confident of that outcome. However, since it's debut will be in the Big Brother before it's cousin<our ride>, what star shall we hook our wagon's to until that time? We probably won't see that until 2015 at the earliest...like Hylton said...the LS's are going to dissapear....might as well use up some LS7's on the way it!
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Dry-sump offers "packaging problems" for the Gen-5 Camaro...
I wasn't asking for dry-sump. I was thinking at least a different oil pan. Doesn't the ls3 have some oiling problems or did I mishear about that?
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...and that will work as well I am confident of that outcome. However, since it's debut will be in the Big Brother before it's cousin<our ride>, what star shall we hook our wagon's to until that time? We probably won't see that until 2015 at the earliest...like Hylton said...the LS's are going to dissapear....might as well use up some LS7's on the way it!
not so sure about always things debuting there. look at the MR generations. the camaro got the most current before the vette. so it's still possible. just not likely.

some grasp at straws, I grasp at 1 straw.
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not so sure about always things debuting there. look at the MR generations. the camaro got the most current before the vette. so it's still possible. just not likely.

some grasp at straws, I grasp at 1 straw.
...good insight....I like your line of thought....it's all rumors and scuttlebutt so far, I guess we won't know what the cards are going to be until they are layed down on the table!
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I wasn't asking for dry-sump. I was thinking at least a different oil pan. Doesn't the ls3 have some oiling problems or did I mishear about that?
The GS 6-speed LS3 is hand-built @ Wixom (taking the same labor/steps as an LS7...) and is dry-sumped (as are the other Wixom builds).

As to potential oiling problems caused by "excessive cornering G's", if that were true then the ZL1 wouldn't have a wet-sump LSA...
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I am all for an LS7 believe me. However, I see them using wixom LS3s before line production LS7s.
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Uhhh..."line production LS7s"? LS7s are also hand-assembled @ Wixom...side-by-each with the "dry" LS3s and LS9s...roughly 3-to-4 per man per 10-hour shift.
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Uhhh..."line production LS7s"? LS7s are also hand-assembled @ Wixom...side-by-each with the "dry" LS3s and LS9s...roughly 3-to-4 per man per 10-hour shift.
I'm aware of that, but it was suggested earlier in this thread that they do that.
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Old 04-05-2012, 02:33 PM   #86
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forget about the Horsepower number....why isn't there a 1LE sub-forum yet?
It will once that other Z is announced.

I bet both Z cars will not have the mail slot.
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It will once that other Z is announced.

I bet both Z cars will not have the mail slot.
Why would there be a "1LE" sub forum? Its an add on not a different car completely.
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Why would there be a "1LE" sub forum? Its an add on not a different car completely.
The 1LE is much more than an Add-on. But it is an option. Which is a good thing. You can have your Track Camaro any way you want it. I can't wait to see the finished car and experience on the track.
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The 1LE is much more than an Add-on. But it is an option. Which is a good thing. You can have your Track Camaro any way you want it. I can't wait to see the finished car and experience on the track.
Mix a 1LE with a little of this and a little of that and what do you get?
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Mix a 1LE with a little of this and a little of that and what do you get?
...ahhhh hah! NOW you are talking compadre! I ZEE where you are going with this....!
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...ahhhh hah! NOW you are talking compadre! I ZEE where you are going with this....!
It almost like this is the Z28 forum.
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Well it's wears the title very well.

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It almost like this is the Z28 forum.
....like the sand through the hourglass, these are the days of our eventual return to the Z/28.
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As to potential oiling problems caused by "excessive cornering G's", if that were true then the ZL1 wouldn't have a wet-sump LSA...
Good point. I was referring to this article, but it seems like it's only a problem after redline of a stock engine?

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Oiling needs help (road-racing or stroker engines): LS engine oil pumps bypass too much oil, plus poor oil drain-back and foaming is a serious problem over 6,500 rpm. Go to a modified aftermarket oiling system and pan. For road racing, consider an ARE dry-sump.

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I wished I saved everything I read. My memory is in need of a hard-drive upgrade. I think there is baffling inside the ZL1's LSA's pan to minimize any potential of oil cavitation....I may be off point but I read something along those lines recently. There is more to that set-up than one would imagine. It's a well crafted and though out deal, albeit a tame 480 cam.
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I wished I saved everything I read. My memory is in need of a hard-drive upgrade. I think there is baffling inside the ZL1's LSA's pan to minimize any potential of oil cavitation....I may be off point but I read something along those lines recently. There is more to that set-up than one would imagine. It's a well crafted and though out deal, albeit a tame 480 cam.
And thank you for sharing that. I just looked up the information and the ZL1 does have oil system changes. The 1LE press release says the 1LE gets the ZL1 fuel system changes, but nothing about oil system changes. So are there oil system changes or not for the 1LE 1g track capable car? Here is what they did to the ZL1:

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I love the 6OG's!

What a club.
Chronologically I am not there yet,,,but my inside feels more closely associated within that range ....
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And thank you for sharing that. I just looked up the information and the ZL1 does have oil system changes. The 1LE press release says the 1LE gets the ZL1 fuel system changes, but nothing about oil system changes. So are there oil system changes or not for the 1LE 1g track capable car? Here is what they did to the ZL1:
...as I recall the fuel pickup was the same on the LSA ZL1 to the 1LE as you mentioned, however no details have been supplied about the LS3, stay tuned....
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