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Old 04-01-2012, 10:12 PM   #1
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ZL1 MPG?

I am on the fueleconomy.gov website and even though they dont list different option cars other then motor size, you think this is viable?

2012 Chevrolet Camaro 6.2 L, 8 cyl, Manual 6-spd, Premium Gasoline

14 City
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Combined
19 Highway
Not Available
$3,900 per year
MSRP: $23,280 - $54,095

2012 Chevrolet Camaro 6.2 L, 8 cyl, Automatic (S6), Regular Gasoline

12 City
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Not Available
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Old 04-01-2012, 10:17 PM   #2
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That sounds about right. Manual is accurate: 14/19

For the record - we observed 19.5 on a mixed trip in stick. Massive torque does have non-performance advantages when tooling around town.
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Old 04-01-2012, 10:54 PM   #3
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Wow, I had no idea MPG on the ZL1 was that poor. No wonder it gets hit with the gas guzzler tax. I would have figured around 23-25mpg with the LSA.
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:13 AM   #5
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16/26mpg? I'll be VERY impressed if they actually manage that good a mileage. I swear I recall not too long ago someone saying something like 14/20...Hopefully the supercharger and that much torque are keeping it low enough in the rpm's that it actually gets the 16/26 though.
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:15 AM   #6
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That sounds about right. Manual is accurate: 14/19

For the record - we observed 19.5 on a mixed trip in stick. Massive torque does have non-performance advantages when tooling around town.
..... but what was the smiles per gallon reading??
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:52 AM   #7
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Whew! LSA is thursty, but there's no surprise there
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tpower! the go to guy, would you happen to have the warranty guide on you, im sure people would like to know what it has in there concerning the track.
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Those appear to be Canadian numbers (16-26mpg).
The US EPA Numbers must be less than that, otherwise, why the Gas Guzzler tax??

Just wondering....
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Old 04-02-2012, 09:23 AM   #10
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It's because the Canadian rating uses Imperial gallons, which are equivalent to 1.2 US Gallons. There is a slight testing difference, but I suspect that makes less difference.
The mileage doesn't make that much difference to me, unless the competition is getting more power and getting better mileage.
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Old 04-02-2012, 09:59 AM   #11
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It's because the Canadian rating uses Imperial gallons, which are equivalent to 1.2 US Gallons. There is a slight testing difference, but I suspect that makes less difference.
The mileage doesn't make that much difference to me, unless the competition is getting more power and getting better mileage.
That explains a lot, thanks! And I agree, if you can afford a car like this you should be able to afford the gas to feed it.
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Why would we (Canada) use imperial gallons? There is no such measurement in Canada anymore. Everything is metric. We don't do fuel testing here to the best of my knowlege, so they would have to be converted US data.
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:35 PM   #13
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Well my truck gets 8 and 12
But i am curious what it actually gets.

I forget what those standards are rated at but i want to say like 35 and 65 or something like that...
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:36 PM   #14
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the boosted LS motors don't seem to get great gas mileage but why anybody in a 550+hp car would nit pick milage too much is beyond me. then again these cars are boat anchor heavy to boot and geared low 3:73 with .62 6th.

my Z06 is 3160lbs 3.42 with .5 6th. gets about 24-25 freeway. so thinking you are going to up tha power, add 1000lbs, and lower the gearing and end up at 23mpg is kind of dreaming.

20mpg at that HP level is good. it is just not great.

the GT500's 23mph is based on taller gearing 3:31 I assume .5 6th, little bit smaller displacement and a tad lighter.
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I am on the fueleconomy.gov website and even though they dont list different option cars other then motor size, you think this is viable?

2012 Chevrolet Camaro 6.2 L, 8 cyl, Manual 6-spd, Premium Gasoline

14 City
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Combined
19 Highway
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$3,900 per year
MSRP: $23,280 - $54,095

2012 Chevrolet Camaro 6.2 L, 8 cyl, Automatic (S6), Regular Gasoline

12 City
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maybe my 2011 1SS is well below average MPG since I have only a best combined city/highway of 15.6mpg and lately I have been driving mostly city, stop light to stop light and have been getting an average of 11.9mpg(yikes!!!).... Interesting to see what the ZL1 will be getting...
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Old 04-02-2012, 03:11 PM   #17
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Why would we (Canada) use imperial gallons? There is no such measurement in Canada anymore. Everything is metric. We don't do fuel testing here to the best of my knowlege, so they would have to be converted US data.
17.7L/100km = 13 mpg US or 16.0 mpg UK(CDN)
10.7L/100km = 22 mpg US or 26.4 mpg UK(CDN)

Therefore the sticker from tpower is in UK gallons(CDN) which is 4.456L compared to a US gallon which is 3.785L.
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Old 04-04-2012, 08:22 PM   #18
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I'm actually impressed at the fuel economy...here's why:

CTS-V has the same ratings. Yet ZL1 has more power, stickier tires, more aggressive gearing...and some more drag creating downforce...

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I'm actually impressed at the fuel economy...here's why:

CTS-V has the same ratings. Yet ZL1 has more power, stickier tires, more aggressive gearing...and some more drag creating downforce...

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hmm, I guess i expected more

Passes everything but a gas station...
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Still, better than your truck.....(:
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Yeah curious what it gets now with the turbo. Dropped it off at the dyno the day i left for deployment...

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It's because the Canadian rating uses Imperial gallons, which are equivalent to 1.2 US Gallons. There is a slight testing difference, but I suspect that makes less difference.
The mileage doesn't make that much difference to me, unless the competition is getting more power and getting better mileage.
The Natural Resources Canada procedure used to more or less mimic the original EPA estimation method. However, the EPA has twice updated their protocol, while Canada has been stuck in the 1970's. This causes about a 20% difference, give or take.

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Why would we (Canada) use imperial gallons? There is no such measurement in Canada anymore. Everything is metric. We don't do fuel testing here to the best of my knowledge, so they would have to be converted US data.
Because we used to be part of the British Empire. Thats why we use UK gallons instead of US gallons. Its also why we have things like a Prime Minister instead of a President and spell colour with a 'u'. And yes, we have our own federal fuel economy testing procedures.
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Old 04-05-2012, 03:22 PM   #24
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i was seeng 4-5mpg in my CTS-V at VIR.
The only reason that stuck in my minds was my Z06 buddies asked how I was doing on gas as I got ready to go out on track for my 3rd session of the day. Glad they asked because I would have run out of gas on the track. I guess I was still operating in the Z06 profile for track mileage

Now that the CTS-V has shown me the light I am primed for track usage and really looking forward to securing a ZL1 as soon as possible

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LOL, I remember at Watkins Glen one year, I got 3 MPG on my C5 Z06. LOL because I almost ran out of gas too! You don't really notice.
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