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Camaro21 · 04-02-2012, 11:23 AM

UPDATE on post #60 HERE:

Has anyone else had an issue with the Strange Gears from their DSS 9" Kit? I installed a week ago Friday and from the moment I test drove my car. There is an Unbelievable loud whining noise from the rear gears that happens at ALL SPEEDS. The noise seems to lighten up on Deceleration.

I am wondering if anyone else has had the same issue? I PM'd Frank with no response yet.

flem · 04-02-2012, 11:35 AM

do a search member ,becustom... he is a friend of mine had same issuse as you.. did it twice.. he was so dissipointed with strange..

Never Satisfied · 04-02-2012, 11:39 AM

That sure doesn't sound right. I know mine was quiet till I took it to the track last weekend. After 6 passes, it is now making a noticeable amount of noise. I figured it was my problem now that I've put a few miles on it and taken it down the track. Hopefully Strange will take care of it for you.

Camaro21 · 04-02-2012, 12:48 PM

I am going to a local gear shop to see what they can do with it !! I take it in this Friday for them to hear the noise and then they will schedule time for me to take it in and fix it after that. I will post up their findings and solution once it has been done !!

1stGM · 04-02-2012, 01:07 PM

It seems as though the Strange built centers are about 50/50 on being set up correctly.... I have about 550 miles on mine and it just about as quiet as the stock diff.... I will be changing the fluid here this week now that it is broken in...

Driveshaftshop · 04-02-2012, 02:49 PM

We had recently changed to a local builder called Spraker racing due to this problem, im not quite sure its the builder or the gears.

Camaro21 · 04-02-2012, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driveshaftshop

We had recently changed to a local builder called Spraker racing due to this problem, im not quite sure its the builder or the gears.

The thirdmember was painted ORANGE if that tells you anything. I will let you know when I get it looked at and let you know what they find, maybe saving someone else the heartache that I am having with these gears !!

Driveshaftshop · 04-02-2012, 03:45 PM

Thats a Spraker diff, ill contact them. i have had some very good luck with them and the reason i had switched to them from Strange. ill send you a PM

Camaro21 · 04-02-2012, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driveshaftshop

Thats a Spraker diff, ill contact them. i have had some very good luck with them and the reason i had switched to them from Strange. ill send you a PM

Thanks !!

HufferSS · 04-02-2012, 04:22 PM

My Strange differential was like that out of the box too...I think I actually posted a YOUTUBE video of it as people kept telling me that 9" gears were naturally noisy...which is a load of crap. This is a very shrill, high pitched whine, not normal gear noise....I clearly know the difference. Once everyone heard the video they stopped that other nonsense quickly.

Vengeance got with Frank and Strange and they took care of it...the 2nd set sounds almost OE quiet and has been perfect ever since.

Camaro21 · 04-02-2012, 04:49 PM

Frank contacted me and is working on getting me replacement gears.

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Never Satisfied · 04-02-2012, 04:52 PM

Damn, I guess I should have gone with a Moser unit. Glad Franks taking care of you Camaro21

shines · 04-02-2012, 08:09 PM

Had the same problem with my DSS 9" kit, although it's a Strange problem, DSS took it back and refunded 100% of my money. Great company!

Subsequently I bought the LPE 9.5" differential and it's quiet but blowing oil out the vent tube :-O

Hendrix-Engineering · 04-02-2012, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HufferSS

My Strange differential was like that out of the box too...I think I actually posted a YOUTUBE video of it as people kept telling me that 9" gears were naturally noisy...which is a load of crap. This is a very shrill, high pitched whine, not normal gear noise....I clearly know the difference. Once everyone heard the video they stopped that other nonsense quickly.

Vengeance got with Frank and Strange and they took care of it...the 2nd set sounds almost OE quiet and has been perfect ever since.

Ill never forget the look of relief on your face when i took you for a ride in my 9 inch setup lol,yes diffently not a DSS issue but Frank gets to the bottom of it

DS1937 · 04-03-2012, 08:38 AM

Sounds like incorrect pinion depth during installation by whoever assembled the rear. I seriously doubt it's the gears themselves.

willhe64 · 04-03-2012, 08:55 AM

Most of the time gear noise is the result of a slightly off set up. But sometimes it is slightly off gear machining and there is no way you can get rid of the noise no matter what you do. I've also seen a few rare cases where the housing is off and every gear set you try will whine no matter how good you set the pattern.

Petersimov · 04-03-2012, 09:41 AM

I also had the same problem out of the box with a vibration getting it back this week will update

Driveshaftshop · 04-03-2012, 01:19 PM

We have had them checked and re-checked. i have one customer that even had a vibration and it turned out to be the Strange diff. its a shame this cant be an easy thing, Spraker said all they will do is give us a new gear. Looks like im buying an entire 3rd member again because of bad parts. We have sold over 150 of the kits and to be honest not all of them have the issues. i was thinking about setting up a jog so we could pr-test them in the high speed balancer but i cant put load on it.

Driveshaftshop · 04-03-2012, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willhe64

Most of the time gear noise is the result of a slightly off set up. But sometimes it is slightly off gear machining and there is no way you can get rid of the noise no matter what you do. I've also seen a few rare cases where the housing is off and every gear set you try will whine no matter how good you set the pattern.

We have given most an exchange unit, its a little expensive but we feel its the right thing to do.

Never Satisfied · 04-03-2012, 01:22 PM

Hey Frank, should I contact Strange or just pay to have a local guy check mine out? The whine is pretty loud with the windows up.

Camaro21 · 04-03-2012, 03:43 PM

I must say how pleased I am with the way that Frank (Driveshaft Shop) is handling my issue. He contacted me and is getting a replacement replacement unit built and coming. This tells me that I made the right decision to purchase my 9" from him!!

Thanks again Frank for making this right. I anxiously await my replacement unit !!

Keith

Camaro21 · 04-03-2012, 03:53 PM

Here is a video of how bad the gears are !!

http://s999.photobucket.com/albums/a...=VIDEO0021.mp4

This is at 65mph

Smirnoff · 04-03-2012, 05:10 PM

Wow - very bad.....

Zman12 · 04-03-2012, 06:05 PM

Wow that sucks. Sorry for your troubles has to be very frustrating.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camaro21

Here is a video of how bad the gears are !!

http://s999.photobucket.com/albums/a...=VIDEO0021.mp4

This is at 65mph

HufferSS · 04-03-2012, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camaro21

Here is a video of how bad the gears are !!

http://s999.photobucket.com/albums/a...=VIDEO0021.mp4

This is at 65mph

That sounds EXACTLY like my first unit sounded....they got it right the 2nd time but still irritating.

04-02-2012, 11:23 AM	#1
Camaro21 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 4,940 View My Garage	* UPDATED * Strange 9" Center Section with LOUD Gear Whine !! UPDATE on post #60 HERE: Has anyone else had an issue with the Strange Gears from their DSS 9" Kit? I installed a week ago Friday and from the moment I test drove my car. There is an Unbelievable loud whining noise from the rear gears that happens at ALL SPEEDS. The noise seems to lighten up on Deceleration. I am wondering if anyone else has had the same issue? I PM'd Frank with no response yet. __________________ Last edited by Camaro21; 04-18-2012 at 02:10 PM.

04-02-2012, 11:35 AM	#2
flem Drives: old Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: ohio Posts: 189	strange gear wine dss rear do a search member ,becustom... he is a friend of mine had same issuse as you.. did it twice.. he was so dissipointed with strange..

04-02-2012, 11:39 AM	#3
Never Satisfied 220/221 whatever it takes Drives: '10 1SS/RS M6 SW/Black Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Lafayette In Posts: 832	That sure doesn't sound right. I know mine was quiet till I took it to the track last weekend. After 6 passes, it is now making a noticeable amount of noise. I figured it was my problem now that I've put a few miles on it and taken it down the track. Hopefully Strange will take care of it for you. __________________ 2010 Summit White 1SS/RS M6 Roto-Fab CAI, MNM 224/236 114, UD Pulley, VMax TB & Intake, Kook's LT's w/ Cats & X, Kook's Ex, Pedder's Xa Coilovers, UMI Trailing Arms, UMI Toe Rods, BMR Subframe Bushings, DSS 9" kit w/ 4.57's, MNM DynoTune 479rwhp/451rwtq 12.03 @ 121.62mph (1.9 60')

04-02-2012, 12:48 PM	#4
Camaro21 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 4,940 View My Garage	I am going to a local gear shop to see what they can do with it !! I take it in this Friday for them to hear the noise and then they will schedule time for me to take it in and fix it after that. I will post up their findings and solution once it has been done !! __________________ Last edited by Camaro21; 04-02-2012 at 01:04 PM.

04-02-2012, 01:07 PM	#5
1stGM Drives: IOM 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Kenosha, Wisconsin Posts: 242	It seems as though the Strange built centers are about 50/50 on being set up correctly.... I have about 550 miles on mine and it just about as quiet as the stock diff.... I will be changing the fluid here this week now that it is broken in... __________________ 2010 2SS..LS3..Procharger..4l80e..DSS 9"

04-02-2012, 02:49 PM	#6
Driveshaftshop Drives: own more cars than i can list Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 795	We had recently changed to a local builder called Spraker racing due to this problem, im not quite sure its the builder or the gears. __________________ The Driveshaft Shop Any of the parts we post about can be purchased thru our extensive dealer network If you want to see some of our latest Hi-Tech stuff click the picture below....

04-02-2012, 03:45 PM	#8
Driveshaftshop Drives: own more cars than i can list Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 795	Thats a Spraker diff, ill contact them. i have had some very good luck with them and the reason i had switched to them from Strange. ill send you a PM __________________ The Driveshaft Shop Any of the parts we post about can be purchased thru our extensive dealer network If you want to see some of our latest Hi-Tech stuff click the picture below....

04-02-2012, 04:22 PM	#10
HufferSS I Wanna Go Faster!! Drives: 2011 2SS Synergy Green M6 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: SC Posts: 3,339	My Strange differential was like that out of the box too...I think I actually posted a YOUTUBE video of it as people kept telling me that 9" gears were naturally noisy...which is a load of crap. This is a very shrill, high pitched whine, not normal gear noise....I clearly know the difference. Once everyone heard the video they stopped that other nonsense quickly. Vengeance got with Frank and Strange and they took care of it...the 2nd set sounds almost OE quiet and has been perfect ever since. __________________ Built by Vengeance Racing 9.31@154.81 mph Procharger F1-X RPM Level 7 4L80e + Coan Converter Hendrix 9" Rear Axle + 3.50 Gear ARH 2" LTs+3.5" Exhaust Fore Fuel System, Bogarts + Hoosier Slicks Pfadt Drag Pack Suspension My Build Thread \| Best Pass To Date

04-02-2012, 04:49 PM	#11
Camaro21 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 4,940 View My Garage	Frank contacted me and is working on getting me replacement gears. Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk __________________

04-02-2012, 04:52 PM	#12
Never Satisfied 220/221 whatever it takes Drives: '10 1SS/RS M6 SW/Black Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Lafayette In Posts: 832	Damn, I guess I should have gone with a Moser unit. Glad Franks taking care of you Camaro21 __________________ 2010 Summit White 1SS/RS M6 Roto-Fab CAI, MNM 224/236 114, UD Pulley, VMax TB & Intake, Kook's LT's w/ Cats & X, Kook's Ex, Pedder's Xa Coilovers, UMI Trailing Arms, UMI Toe Rods, BMR Subframe Bushings, DSS 9" kit w/ 4.57's, MNM DynoTune 479rwhp/451rwtq 12.03 @ 121.62mph (1.9 60')

04-02-2012, 08:09 PM	#13
shines Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: USA Posts: 331	Had the same problem with my DSS 9" kit, although it's a Strange problem, DSS took it back and refunded 100% of my money. Great company! Subsequently I bought the LPE 9.5" differential and it's quiet but blowing oil out the vent tube :-O

04-03-2012, 08:38 AM	#15
DS1937 DS1937 Drives: 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 281	Sounds like incorrect pinion depth during installation by whoever assembled the rear. I seriously doubt it's the gears themselves. __________________

04-03-2012, 08:55 AM	#16
willhe64 Drives: 2012 45th Vert, 2011 4x4, 9sec Vega Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 1,361	Most of the time gear noise is the result of a slightly off set up. But sometimes it is slightly off gear machining and there is no way you can get rid of the noise no matter what you do. I've also seen a few rare cases where the housing is off and every gear set you try will whine no matter how good you set the pattern.

04-03-2012, 09:41 AM	#17
Petersimov Drives: 2ss Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Joliet IL Posts: 253	I also had the same problem out of the box with a vibration getting it back this week will update

04-03-2012, 01:19 PM	#18
Driveshaftshop Drives: own more cars than i can list Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 795	We have had them checked and re-checked. i have one customer that even had a vibration and it turned out to be the Strange diff. its a shame this cant be an easy thing, Spraker said all they will do is give us a new gear. Looks like im buying an entire 3rd member again because of bad parts. We have sold over 150 of the kits and to be honest not all of them have the issues. i was thinking about setting up a jog so we could pr-test them in the high speed balancer but i cant put load on it. __________________ The Driveshaft Shop Any of the parts we post about can be purchased thru our extensive dealer network If you want to see some of our latest Hi-Tech stuff click the picture below....

04-03-2012, 01:22 PM	#20
Never Satisfied 220/221 whatever it takes Drives: '10 1SS/RS M6 SW/Black Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Lafayette In Posts: 832	Hey Frank, should I contact Strange or just pay to have a local guy check mine out? The whine is pretty loud with the windows up. __________________ 2010 Summit White 1SS/RS M6 Roto-Fab CAI, MNM 224/236 114, UD Pulley, VMax TB & Intake, Kook's LT's w/ Cats & X, Kook's Ex, Pedder's Xa Coilovers, UMI Trailing Arms, UMI Toe Rods, BMR Subframe Bushings, DSS 9" kit w/ 4.57's, MNM DynoTune 479rwhp/451rwtq 12.03 @ 121.62mph (1.9 60')

04-03-2012, 03:43 PM	#21
Camaro21 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 4,940 View My Garage	I must say how pleased I am with the way that Frank (Driveshaft Shop) is handling my issue. He contacted me and is getting a replacement replacement unit built and coming. This tells me that I made the right decision to purchase my 9" from him!! Thanks again Frank for making this right. I anxiously await my replacement unit !! Keith __________________

04-03-2012, 03:53 PM	#22
Camaro21 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 4,940 View My Garage	Here is a video of how bad the gears are !! http://s999.photobucket.com/albums/a...=VIDEO0021.mp4 This is at 65mph __________________

04-03-2012, 05:10 PM	#23
Smirnoff Drives: Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Motorcity Dragway Posts: 701	Wow - very bad..... __________________ No china cheap bolt-on's, buffet, or yubiwaza here.....

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