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Old 04-03-2012, 08:56 AM   #1
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sneeky little ricer!!!

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local strip just opened up and a buddy of mine finally got his mazda out, at the track he ran a best of 12.4!!!! at 121mph??? I ran a 12.3 at 115 with drag radials?? Needless to say im impressed.
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Old 04-03-2012, 09:12 AM   #2
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That's a nice trap speed on the Mazda.
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Old 04-03-2012, 09:13 AM   #3
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those speed3s can be serious little rockets, especially with those mods.
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Old 04-03-2012, 09:14 AM   #4
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sure its fast. wonder how long it will last though. and good luck ever getting the money out of it that is invested in it.
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well i give it two months before he blows it up lol, he is running 24lbs of boost on the stock block with a monster turbo
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Old 04-03-2012, 09:34 AM   #6
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well i give it two months before he blows it up lol, he is running 24lbs of boost on the stock block with a monster turbo

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Old 04-03-2012, 11:46 AM   #7
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well i give it two months before he blows it up lol, he is running 24lbs of boost on the stock block with a monster turbo
Lets hope he just turned up the boost for the strip.

no need to be driving around town at 24... 14 is pushing it on cast block, with no forged internals.
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Old 04-03-2012, 01:09 PM   #8
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My brother-in-law has been running 22 psi on a GT32 for over a year, and it is his DD. If you have meth and it is tune right they seem to handle boost well. They go through high-pressure fuel pumps quickly though.
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Old 04-03-2012, 07:22 PM   #9
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sure its fast. wonder how long it will last though. and good luck ever getting the money out of it that is invested in it.
Good luck ever getting money out of any car. It doesn't only apply to 4 cylinder hatch backs lol
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14 is pushing it on cast block, with no forged internals.
Doubt it, those smaller engines usually need a good amount of psi to make power, 14 is probably close to stock, which is probably around 12-13 I'd imagine. This is not like a camaro at 9psi, the volume in the camaro is much bigger, the volume in the little 2.4L engine is much smaller, it needs (and comes stock with) more psi that you'll see on a turbo LS3 or other "big" motor. Something like 13 was the stock for my wrx. I upped it to 15.


24 on the other hand...well yeah, that's gunna kill a stock motor quick.
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Doubt it, those smaller engines usually need a good amount of psi to make power, 14 is probably close to stock, which is probably around 12-13 I'd imagine. This is not like a camaro at 9psi, the volume in the camaro is much bigger, the volume in the little 2.4L engine is much smaller, it needs (and comes stock with) more psi that you'll see on a turbo LS3 or other "big" motor. Something like 13 was the stock for my wrx. I upped it to 15.


24 on the other hand...well yeah, that's gunna kill a stock motor quick.


Except that it is a Garret gt3076r turbo. So yes, 24psi is A LOT for that car. 14PSI from the stock turbo is NOT 14psi on the Garret. I'm actually surprised his motor is in one piece. From what I heard, those motors really can't handle too much more boost without problems.
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the mzr is factory forged and yes he runs 24psi everyday all day
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:09 AM   #13
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I had a 2010 speed3 and they are fun but having to put an Audi fuel pump in it sucks. Plus they don't run well when temp changes a lot. When it was hot in Texas it was ok. But when it got cool there wasn't enough fuel available to make it run right. They do say zoom zoom boom for those cars! But hell why not boost seduced! They are really fun in the tight back roads. Just make sure ur going sort of straight before u get on it.
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:14 AM   #14
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I've seen a fast Pinto.
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Old 04-05-2012, 06:37 PM   #15
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it isnt a ricer if it can run those times.
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Old 04-05-2012, 07:18 PM   #16
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Except that it is a Garret gt3076r turbo. So yes, 24psi is A LOT for that car. 14PSI from the stock turbo is NOT 14psi on the Garret. I'm actually surprised his motor is in one piece. From what I heard, those motors really can't handle too much more boost without problems.
Last I checked, the 14psi made by one turbo is the same 14psi made by any other turbo. It's 14psi no matter how you spin it. Now what matters is your air to fuel mix and what kinda bottom end you are running. I've seen the mazda 2.3 boosted up pretty high in previous models and they don't really have much trouble with the motor. The trans and cv shafts tend to shatter under excessive wheel hop but not generally the motor.
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Last I checked, the 14psi made by one turbo is the same 14psi made by any other turbo. It's 14psi no matter how you spin it. Now what matters is your air to fuel mix and what kinda bottom end you are running. I've seen the mazda 2.3 boosted up pretty high in previous models and they don't really have much trouble with the motor. The trans and cv shafts tend to shatter under excessive wheel hop but not generally the motor.


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Volume.
The turbo can only push as much air as the ducting would allow it to. The tubing in the Mazda is gonna be the determining factor here, not the turbo. And besides the duct work, the motor has a maximum flow that is also gonna limit the amount of volume that the engine can even use. That's where the waste gate comes in. It dumps the excess to the atmosphere. Poorly selected and tuned waste gates can blow engines actually more often than big turbos do. I don't see much issue with the car running on 24 psi of boost. If a non-forged Honda 1.6/1.8 can run over 35psi, I wouldnt worry too much about 24 in a larger, forged motor...
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The OP claims that he runs it daily. The question is how long it will hold at that pressure. I'm sure most motors can hit 50psi but for how many seconds? I highly doubt the OP's friend will have any issues with ducting especially with the way that it sounds it it's modded. The wastegate is moreso to regulate the amount of pressure built by the tubo so that you can prevent overboosting. Technically, the higher the PSI the more air you can cram into the cylinder regardless of how much the engine flows. There will always more air per cubic inch in relation to PSI.
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The OP claims that he runs it daily. The question is how long it will hold at that pressure. I'm sure most motors can hit 50psi but for how many seconds? I highly doubt the OP's friend will have any issues with ducting especially with the way that it sounds it it's modded. The wastegate is moreso to regulate the amount of pressure built by the tubo so that you can prevent overboosting. Technically, the higher the PSI the more air you can cram into the cylinder regardless of how much the engine flows. There will always more air per cubic inch in relation to PSI.
Yes but there is a point where flow is gonna hinder the amount of air you can cram into the engine. I've been out of the turbo game for awhile but eventually every engine hits the wall.
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his speed3 blew number 1 and 3 piston rods this morning
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congrats! I guess? kind of messed up waiting for him to blow up his stuff, even if he drives a mazda.
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The turbo can only push as much air as the ducting would allow it to. The tubing in the Mazda is gonna be the determining factor here, not the turbo. And besides the duct work, the motor has a maximum flow that is also gonna limit the amount of volume that the engine can even use. That's where the waste gate comes in. It dumps the excess to the atmosphere. Poorly selected and tuned waste gates can blow engines actually more often than big turbos do. I don't see much issue with the car running on 24 psi of boost. If a non-forged Honda 1.6/1.8 can run over 35psi, I wouldnt worry too much about 24 in a larger, forged motor...
This is somewhat accurate, but misleading at the same time. Hot or cold side piping c an be a bottleneck, but a more efficient turbo will always be able to push more volume through the same ducting as a less efficient one. More efficient turbos increase charge air temperatures over ambient far less than smaller, less efficient turbos and thus will flow the same volume at lower boost pressures. With a proper intercooler, the right tune, and a reciprocating assembly that can handle the force, 28-30psi on a 3076r can be fine. As far as reaching "maximum flow" for the engine. . . that's a bit of a stretch for this example, he is most definitely limited by the strength of his motor, not the displacement. I have seen 2.0l I4s making over 600awhp in daily driven street cars and 500+ in 2.5l on multiple occasions. The wastegate bleeds excess exhaust to regulate boost in the turbo, it does not bleed intake air.
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