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Old 04-07-2012, 09:43 PM   #151
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So is this about old guys vs young guys. LOL

Z28 means a lot of different things to different people.

60's Z28 has a whole different meaning than the late 70s and 80s. To me, the Z28 was simply the performance Camaro. When I wanted one as a "young man", there really wasn't much of the SS on any Chevy that meant much. It was Camaro and Camaro Z28.....same as Trans Am.

Today, some are thinking it needs to be "back to the future" with an SS and a Z28.

The fun part is there really isn't a correct answer. What was at one point does not define what must be in the future.

GM is just playing with us now by resurecting the ZL1 and 1LE option codes..............and it thus far has not proven to be a bad thing.

And young 'uns...........just remember.....................someday you too will be the old guys.
Aging...It seems to happen very all of a sudden.

I like the re-entry of the ZL1, I think it's fits that particular Camaro perfectly. I also think the 1LE is perfect as a socalled Track Pack for the SS. Now I'm looking forward to the same fitting answer for the Z28.
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Old 04-07-2012, 11:42 PM   #152
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Aging...It seems to happen very all of a sudden.

I like the re-entry of the ZL1, I think it's fits that particular Camaro perfectly. I also think the 1LE is perfect as a socalled Track Pack for the SS. Now I'm looking forward to the same fitting answer for the Z28.
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....excellent response Number 3, we are learning from our offspring and other younger members of the NOW generation.....instant gratification...who says you can't teach an old dog tricks....!
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Old 04-08-2012, 01:38 PM   #155
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Another thing about aging is you know what you like (for men anyway). That being said I don't necessarily want it all, I want only what I know pleases me.
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Old 04-08-2012, 01:48 PM   #156
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Old 04-08-2012, 03:08 PM   #157
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The fun part is there really isn't a correct answer. What was at one point does not define what must be in the future.
You mean "the only 'constant' is 'change'?"

Hmmm...
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Old 04-09-2012, 08:00 PM   #158
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You mean "the only 'constant' is 'change'?"

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And oxidation...............lol
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And oxidation...............lol
So I haven/t really aged, I've just oxidized!!
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Old 04-10-2012, 02:58 PM   #160
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That just makes me sad.
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Old 04-10-2012, 03:00 PM   #161
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That just makes me sad.
It impresses me!


But then....this thread isn't about that, is it?
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Old 04-10-2012, 06:18 PM   #163
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Old 04-10-2012, 07:08 PM   #164
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I must apologize to those who may have been offended by what seemed to be a negative view on a potential Z28. That wasn't my intent no matter how some may have seen it. But any of my opinions are just as valid as anyone else's.

I've had several Z28s in the past and currently, and would like to see another. But I'm also a realist. The window for a 5th gen Z28 is shrinking fast. All information I've been able to gather points to a 6th gen. All this could change with a press release, though. Surprise us, GM.

We're all Camaro lovers here (except maybe the Mustang guests). We may not agree on every point, but we all know that the Z28 has a very special and revered place in Camaro history (not taking any respect away from the SS), and will happen again only when it's right and ready. Whenever that may be.
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Old 04-22-2012, 11:14 AM   #165
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GM has already designated the ZL1 as the then and now Ultimate Camaro.

Also from a marketing standpoint the price gap is between the 1LE $40K and the ZL1 $55K. That is the gap to fill.
Not as much of a gap as your numbers indicate. Put the 1LE on a 2SS and the price will likely be in the $45-50k range. Especially when you consider the ZL1 is basically a 2SS with performance upgrades.
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Not as much of a gap as your numbers indicate. Put the 1LE on a 2SS and the price will likely be in the $45-50k range. Especially when you consider the ZL1 is basically a 2SS with performance upgrades.
we'll just have to wait and see. but the ZL1 isn't just performance upgrades. there's some interior/exterior upgrades as well. those do cost money also.

I'd be willing to bet. the 1LE option makes the 2SS 42-43k before any options and TTL. going off the 1SS price and it possibly being 39999. So we will see. after options I know you could get one up there. and it'd be interesting. so can't wait.
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Let's correct some mis-information first, then I'll explain. First gen. Z/28 production: '67-602, '68-7,199, '69-20,302. When the Camaro was first released in the fall of '66 for the '67 model year, there was no Z/28. Some of the executives within the Chevrolet/Camaro section felt that there needed to be a unique Camaro to compete in the SCCA TransAm Sedan Race Series. Some engineers were tasked with doing this and the vehicle that resulted was the Camaro Z/28, it was almost a production racecar available from the factory, it was not available with AC or auto tranny, nor was it available in a convertible. It featured a high compression (11:1) 302cid SBC with solid lifters that was able to rev 7k+ quite easily right off the showroom floor and featured the same Holley 780cfm carb found on some Chevy big block engines. The standard rear gear ratio was 3.73 with optional ratios up to 4.56(and possibly the 4.88s were available also). It could be equipped with a chin spoiler and a trunklid spoiler and was available with the wide "stereo" stipes on hood and trunk that were initially available on Z/28 only. The Z/28 was a mid-year introduction in the '67 model year (I think the first ones were built in Dec. '66). While the first gen SS Camaros were excellent cars, their high performance was more focused on 1/4 mile and straight line accelereation, the Z/28 was purpose built to be focused on excellent handling in curves as well as straightaways. If someone wanted an acceleration focused Camaro they bought a SS, if they wanted excellent all around handling for straightening out curves they chose the Z/28. While the SS models (available with several engine configurations) had great acceleration, throw some curves into the equation and all an SS would see is Z/28 tail lights. And that is a brief history of the heritage of the Z/28 and how it came to be.
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I think they did make 1 or 2 as a convertible
As has been explained many times, first gen. Z/28s were not available as a regular production order vert. There was one COPO vert Z/28 made for Chev exec. Pete Estes, the one and only first gen vert Z/28 ever made by Chevrolet. So the statement stands, first gen. Z/28s were NOT available as a convertible, you could not walk in off the street to a Chevy dealer and order one.
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Old 05-20-2012, 05:42 PM   #169
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What Z28?

There were a few in 67 and maybe 600 or so in 68.

Back in 1969 when they were not too scarce, there was no a/c, no power steering, no automatic transmission, they had a rock crusher transmission, 4.11 gears and posi and a little bitch of a 302 motor that could scream with a Holley carb, aluminum intake and 2.02/1.60 heads with 11 to 1 compression. There was nothing else like it. You can't duplicate that today, it's like a sequel to a great movie that does not cut it. I still remember the feeling I had when I saw my first one. You old guys know what I am talking about.
Nice car ! I had a 69 SS new and seen a couple Z28 s around but, never raced one, mine was olympic gold black hockey stripes 350/300 hp it went great caught rubber in all 4 gears but, their was a badass 396 around so I wasn't that badass. Never knew about the Yenko's or I would have bought one of those. I miss the SS though.
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I believe GM has used and abused the SS name for to long. Are Camaro SS stands behind the Super Sport logo very well. But when you start Giving the newer Impala,colbalt,Silverado,trailblazer,ect SS badges it looses its reputation IMO. The Z/28 has an Iconic ring and name to it, even though some of the mid/later year Z-28s where pretty lame performers.
I owned a Trailblazer SS and it was quite capable. I surprised many a driver in that vehicle. While I agree the SS badge was watered down when Chevy started sticking it on anything with bigger wheels and ten more horsepower than stock, some of the applications were appropriate.
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Is it possible the 5th gen gets the Zl1 and
the 6th gen gets the Z28?
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Old 05-30-2012, 05:28 PM   #172
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Is it possible the 5th gen gets the Zl1 and
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The 5th gen. Z/28 will be here soon........
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The 5th gen. Z/28 will be here soon........
...I'm going to hold that one to you Gramps..........ZL1 says "I'm a bad man"....like as in Ali said< or was it Cacius Clay at that time?>...but, we know what we really want, don't we?
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...I'm going to hold that one to you Gramps..........ZL1 says "I'm a bad man"....like as in Ali said< or was it Cacius Clay at that time?>...but, we know what we really want, don't we?
Imagine.... "IF" they actually announced a Gen 5 Z/28 with an LS7 at the $45-$48 price point. Talk about filling the gap (as has been discussed toooo much already). I've been thinking... GM is keeping/controlling the supply of the ZL1's using the "just in time" principles. I really believe that, although demand is not quite being met for the ZL1, real demand numbers are elusive and they may be closer than we think to real availability. The Z/28 would triple/quadruple volume of the ZL1 (based on price/upfit potential). And surely erode the Mustang demand even more. Could all be part of a "big plan". I'm not so sure I wouldn't want one in lieu of my ZL1. I love the ZL1, but I could love a Z/28 too! Just not sure I could handle the threesome, if you know what I mean.

I was one to believe they would wait for Gen 6 to pull the trigger, but I'm not so sure they can wait that long. And, the 2016 CAFE rules are looming -
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Imagine.... "IF" they actually announced a Gen 5 Z/28 with an LS7 at the $45-$48 price point. Talk about filling the gap (as has been discussed toooo much already). I've been thinking... GM is keeping/controlling the supply of the ZL1's using the "just in time" principles. I really believe that, although demand is not quite being met for the ZL1, real demand numbers are elusive and they may be closer than we think to real availability. The Z/28 would triple/quadruple volume of the ZL1 (based on price/upfit potential). And surely erode the Mustang demand even more. Could all be part of a "big plan". I'm not so sure I wouldn't want one in lieu of my ZL1. I love the ZL1, but I could love a Z/28 too! Just not sure I could handle the threesome, if you know what I mean.

I was one to believe they would wait for Gen 6 to pull the trigger, but I'm not so sure they can wait that long. And, the 2016 CAFE rules are looming -
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