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Old 04-04-2012, 10:25 PM   #1
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2006 Mustang GT vs. 2011 V6 Camaro

Well, my brother (a die-hard Mustang fan - 2012 Mustang GT) invited my husband and me to the local 1/8 mile track to have some fun last night. We took my DD, a 2006 Mustang GT.

My husband drove the GT first and was up against a Cynergy Green V6 Camaro. Our car is completely stock, and I am sure the Camaro was at least mostly stock. Maybe had a few things like filters, exhaust, etc. Nothing huge. Our GT beat the Mustang pretty badly.

When I ran the GT, my times stayed pretty consistent at 9.3 in the eighth.

Anyway, I guess I was expecting the Camaro to whoop up on the GT because it does have a lot more horsepower and my GT has a very high gear ratio - definitely not set up for racing.

Oh, well. I did have a great time running the track. It's was the first time that I actually had the guts to take a car down the track. After the first round, my husband couldn't get another turn. It was so addictive.....

Although, after seeing the condition of the quarter panels this morning, there is noooo way that I would take my Camaro down the strip. Too much wear and tear on the paint.
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Seems a bit odd because there are a few stock V6 Camaros running 9.3 in the 1/8th mile.
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Anyway, I guess I was expecting the Camaro to whoop up on the GT because it does have a lot more horsepower and my GT has a very high gear ratio - definitely not set up for racing.
Peak horsepower can be very misleading. You need to look at the whole curve. The V6 Camaro does have more peak horsepower than an 06 Mustang GT. However, the GT has a 50 ft-lb torque advantage to pull it off the line. The 4.6L 3V engine's power peak is also very flat and wide. (it is within about 5 hp of its 300 peak everywhere between 5000 and 6000 RPM). The LLT V6 has a sharper (narrower) peak at a higher RPM.

And don't forget the SRA. SRA tend to get power to the ground more efficiently than an IRS and all its CV joints.
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how about a nearly stockGT vs a v6 camaro with intake exhaust tune throttle body and black icolator?
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Seems a bit odd because there are a few stock V6 Camaros running 9.3 in the 1/8th mile.
Agreed... a 9.3 in the 1/8th works out to about a 14.4 in the 1/4... So thinking the Camaro was either stock or poor driver. With a some bolt-ons the V6 Camaro should be low 14s or even dip into the 13s...
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Well, my brother (a die-hard Mustang fan - 2012 Mustang GT) invited my husband and me to the local 1/8 mile track to have some fun last night. We took my DD, a 2006 Mustang GT.

My husband drove the GT first and was up against a Cynergy Green V6 Camaro. Our car is completely stock, and I am sure the Camaro was at least mostly stock. Maybe had a few things like filters, exhaust, etc. Nothing huge. Our GT beat the Mustang pretty badly.

When I ran the GT, my times stayed pretty consistent at 9.3 in the eighth.

Anyway, I guess I was expecting the Camaro to whoop up on the GT because it does have a lot more horsepower and my GT has a very high gear ratio - definitely not set up for racing.

Oh, well. I did have a great time running the track. It's was the first time that I actually had the guts to take a car down the track. After the first round, my husband couldn't get another turn. It was so addictive.....

Although, after seeing the condition of the quarter panels this morning, there is noooo way that I would take my Camaro down the strip. Too much wear and tear on the paint.
Yep... very easy to become a track junkie!!!!

As for your paint... don't worry there are couple of things you can do:

1) Get some of the wide, blue painters tape and cover the panels...

or

2) Seen guys use some type of plastic wrap... not sure what exactly they use..

or

3) Mist down the the panel with quick detailer and don't wipe it off. Or in my case I use Pledge! The rubber just rinses off then and it leaves the car Lemony Fresh! LOL

Before trying any of those, just make sure you have a good coat of was on!
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Hrrmm...well hard to say what happened. How was the DA at your track?

I only see one completely stock time for our V6 1/8 mile fast list and it was a 10 flat. But we have several 1/8 times in the modded section and they are quite a bit faster than 9.3.

Here are spots 6 - 10: you can see that a couple of the guys had little more than an intake and/or a tune did well. Some are much more modded....I guess the launch is everything.

6. 8.983 @ 79.00 - rtcat600man - A6 - (Injen CAI, MRT v2.0 Axle Back)
7. 9.015 @ 78.44 - usa1camaro1969 - M6 - (DRs, K&N CAI, BBK Longtubes, Cherry Bomb V8 Catback, Trifecta Tune)
8. 9.018 @ 77.53 - Beauwulf - A6 - (Airaid v1.0, MRT v1.0 Axle Back, Trifecta Tune)
9. 9.059 @ 78.99 - devildoc - A6 - (Airaid v2.0, IAT Relocate, ARH Longtubes/High Flow Cats, MRT v2.0 Axle Back, Trifecta Tune)
10. 9.126 @ 81.22 - mrray13 - A6 - (Injen CAI, ARH Longtubes/High Flow Cats, Flowmaster Super 44s, Trifecta tune)
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Yep... very easy to become a track junkie!!!!

As for your paint... don't worry there are couple of things you can do:

1) Get some of the wide, blue painters tape and cover the panels...

or

2) Seen guys use some type of plastic wrap... not sure what exactly they use..

or

3) Mist down the the panel with quick detailer and don't wipe it off. Or in my case I use Pledge! The rubber just rinses off then and it leaves the car Lemony Fresh! LOL

Before trying any of those, just make sure you have a good coat of was on!
Thanks for the advice. I will definitely put some kind of detailer or pledge on the car next time. My DD is actually my 13 year old's car that we bought for him to start practicing in. I will see how well the rubber rinses off his car and might actually work up the nerve to take mine.
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Hrrmm...well hard to say what happened. How was the DA at your track?

I only see one completely stock time for our V6 1/8 mile fast list and it was a 10 flat. But we have several 1/8 times in the modded section and they are quite a bit faster than 9.3.

Here are spots 6 - 10: you can see that a couple of the guys had little more than an intake and/or a tune did well. Some are much more modded....I guess the launch is everything.

6. 8.983 @ 79.00 - rtcat600man - A6 - (Injen CAI, MRT v2.0 Axle Back)
7. 9.015 @ 78.44 - usa1camaro1969 - M6 - (DRs, K&N CAI, BBK Longtubes, Cherry Bomb V8 Catback, Trifecta Tune)
8. 9.018 @ 77.53 - Beauwulf - A6 - (Airaid v1.0, MRT v1.0 Axle Back, Trifecta Tune)
9. 9.059 @ 78.99 - devildoc - A6 - (Airaid v2.0, IAT Relocate, ARH Longtubes/High Flow Cats, MRT v2.0 Axle Back, Trifecta Tune)
10. 9.126 @ 81.22 - mrray13 - A6 - (Injen CAI, ARH Longtubes/High Flow Cats, Flowmaster Super 44s, Trifecta tune)
But there are posts in the 1/4th thread that are bone stock with 660' times of 9.3 or lower.
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how about a nearly stockGT vs a v6 camaro with intake exhaust tune throttle body and black icolator?
There wasn't another 5th Gen Camaro there because it was Mustang/Ford night. I am sure that a modded Camaro would have beat my stock GT. However, I really thought the GT wouldn't stand much of a chance. Oh, well. I am still the Camaro fan - just needs to be a v8. In that case, my poor little car would have been toasted.

The guy was even faster off the line that my husband by over a half second. Still lost.
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Peak horsepower can be very misleading. You need to look at the whole curve. The V6 Camaro does have more peak horsepower than an 06 Mustang GT. However, the GT has a 50 ft-lb torque advantage to pull it off the line. The 4.6L 3V engine's power peak is also very flat and wide. (it is within about 5 hp of its 300 peak everywhere between 5000 and 6000 RPM). The LLT V6 has a sharper (narrower) peak at a higher RPM.

And don't forget the SRA. SRA tend to get power to the ground more efficiently than an IRS and all its CV joints.
And the extra weight of the Camaro
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Agreed... a 9.3 in the 1/8th works out to about a 14.4 in the 1/4... So thinking the Camaro was either stock or poor driver. With a some bolt-ons the V6 Camaro should be low 14s or even dip into the 13s...
Most manual Camaros are running mid 14s, best I have seen here is 14.2, autos are slower..............
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Couple months ago we a few of us were at the track playing with one of my buddies 2010 Z06 automatic.Between 4 of us NO ONE was able to get out of the 12's.

I believe torque managnent was killing us that night, when launching the car would take off and fall flat on it's face.
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3v gt > v6 camaro all day long.
Don't know about all day long..... Here is my brand new, 4 day old, 100% stock V6 Camaro beating a Mustang GT! Stopped the video a bit to early since I was laughing so hard... My buddy is behind the wheel of my Camaro, and my other friend is in his Mustang Shelby GT (NOT a GT500! just the dressed up GT). The Camaro beats the Mustang's ET by .002! Spinning ain't winning!



Moral of the story... any car can beat any other car, because sometimes SH*T HAPPENS!!! LOL!
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Don't know about all day long..... Here is my brand new, 4 day old, 100% stock V6 Camaro beating a Mustang GT! Stopped the video a bit to early since I was laughing so hard... My buddy is behind the wheel of my Camaro, and my other friend is in his Mustang Shelby GT (NOT a GT500! just the dressed up GT). The Camaro beats the Mustang's ET by .002! Spinning ain't winning!



Moral of the story... any car can beat any other car, because sometimes SH*T HAPPENS!!! LOL!

massive massive driver fail. if that's the case my 02 t\a can beat a zr1.
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Couple months ago we a few of us were at the track playing with one of my buddies 2010 Z06 automatic.Between 4 of us NO ONE was able to get out of the 12's.

I believe torque managnent was killing us that night, when launching the car would take off and fall flat on it's face.
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Here are a few stock V6s I found quickly that have run 9.3 or better in the 1/8th.

DandD 9.306
Darkness 9.213
etmx183 9.236

I'm sure there are more, but it goes back to the original point. Something wasn't right if a GT was running 9.3s and easily beating the Camaro. Perhaps that was driver error, too.
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Here are a few stock V6s I found quickly that have run 9.3 or better in the 1/8th.

DandD 9.306
Darkness 9.213
etmx183 9.236

I'm sure there are more, but it goes back to the original point. Something wasn't right if a GT was running 9.3s and easily beating the Camaro. Perhaps that was driver error, too.
Yep... could be driver error, coupled with a terrible case of heat soak! We know what a huge negative impact heat soak has on the LLT!
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Yep... could be driver error, coupled with a terrible case of heat soak! We know what a huge negative impact heat soak has on the LLT!
SOmething else, the GT should have quicker than 9.3, probably at least an 8.9xx, seems like maybe weather/altitude?
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SOmething else, the GT should have quicker than 9.3, probably at least an 8.9xx, seems like maybe weather/altitude?
Bingo. If both cars are running slow times, it's either two bad drivers and/or track conditions.
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Which was what SCRMING originally asked. No response to that yet.
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Which was what SCRMING originally asked. No response to that yet.
actually... went back to the first post and started re-reading....

I actually never asked any questions.... LOL!

HOWEVER, I did come across something in the OP original post I hadn't picked up on! (I have to stop skimming posts!)

Ok.. first part:

"My husband drove the GT first and was up against a Cynergy Green V6 Camaro. Our car is completely stock, and I am sure the Camaro was at least mostly stock. Maybe had a few things like filters, exhaust, etc. Nothing huge. Our GT beat the Mustang pretty badly. "

Ok, so it was Dr. Love's HUSBAND that beat the V6 Camaro...


But the second part is:

"When I ran the GT, my times stayed pretty consistent at 9.3 in the eighth."

So it was in fact Dr. Love that ran the 9.3, NOT her HUSBAND that beat the V6 Camaro... The question for Dr. Love now is, what was your HUSBAND's time? Do you happen to have HIS timeslip? Would sure help us understand things! Would really like to see his timeslip...
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SOmething else, the GT should have quicker than 9.3, probably at least an 8.9xx, seems like maybe weather/altitude?
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Bingo. If both cars are running slow times, it's either two bad drivers and/or track conditions.
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actually... went back to the first post and started re-reading....

I actually never asked any questions.... LOL!

HOWEVER, I did come across something in the OP original post I hadn't picked up on! (I have to stop skimming posts!)

Ok.. first part:

"My husband drove the GT first and was up against a Cynergy Green V6 Camaro. Our car is completely stock, and I am sure the Camaro was at least mostly stock. Maybe had a few things like filters, exhaust, etc. Nothing huge. Our GT beat the Mustang pretty badly. "

Ok, so it was Dr. Love's HUSBAND that beat the V6 Camaro...


But the second part is:

"When I ran the GT, my times stayed pretty consistent at 9.3 in the eighth."

So it was in fact Dr. Love that ran the 9.3, NOT her HUSBAND that beat the V6 Camaro... The question for Dr. Love now is, what was your HUSBAND's time? Do you happen to have HIS timeslip? Would sure help us understand things! Would really like to see his timeslip...
Sorry, thought I remember you asking that.
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Sorry, thought I remember you asking that.
probably some other thread.... you know me... always asking for time slips! LOL
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Here are a few stock V6s I found quickly that have run 9.3 or better in the 1/8th.

DandD 9.306
Darkness 9.213
etmx183 9.236

I'm sure there are more, but it goes back to the original point. Something wasn't right if a GT was running 9.3s and easily beating the Camaro. Perhaps that was driver error, too.
This weekend at Beech Bend, I ran a 1/8th in 9.052 and a 1/4 in 13.998 in the bone stock GT. The Mustang is just getting faster and faster. Not sure how, but it is. First time it has ever been raced and we have only owned it since December. Plus, I am running street tires and couldn't get traction on the green. I maybe could have broke into the 8s if I had got more grip. Car has 100K miles on it. Stock tire pressure. No special air filters...Matter of fact, we took the time to take out the paper filter and dust it a little Saturday at the track.

The oil was changed today and the gas filter - which happened to be brown it was so dirty.

I love that this car is fast, and we do have all of the time slips to prove it. However, I was beat by a Dodge Neon RT with E85. Stock....

Here is the link to that race:

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actually... went back to the first post and started re-reading....

I actually never asked any questions.... LOL!

HOWEVER, I did come across something in the OP original post I hadn't picked up on! (I have to stop skimming posts!)

Ok.. first part:

"My husband drove the GT first and was up against a Cynergy Green V6 Camaro. Our car is completely stock, and I am sure the Camaro was at least mostly stock. Maybe had a few things like filters, exhaust, etc. Nothing huge. Our GT beat the Mustang pretty badly. "

Ok, so it was Dr. Love's HUSBAND that beat the V6 Camaro...


But the second part is:

"When I ran the GT, my times stayed pretty consistent at 9.3 in the eighth."

So it was in fact Dr. Love that ran the 9.3, NOT her HUSBAND that beat the V6 Camaro... The question for Dr. Love now is, what was your HUSBAND's time? Do you happen to have HIS timeslip? Would sure help us understand things! Would really like to see his timeslip...
My husband's time was 9.4, worse than mine. I barely weight a 100 pounds, which helps me be faster than him.
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