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Old 04-09-2012, 06:33 AM   #26
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massive massive driver fail. if that's the case my 02 t\a can beat a zr1.
HAHAHAHAHA! Awesome response.

Glad to see someone here actually knows something about drag racing.
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Old 04-09-2012, 06:53 AM   #27
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This weekend at Beech Bend, I ran a 1/8th in 9.052 and a 1/4 in 13.998 in the bone stock GT. The Mustang is just getting faster and faster. Not sure how, but it is. First time it has ever been raced and we have only owned it since December. Plus, I am running street tires and couldn't get traction on the green. I maybe could have broke into the 8s if I had got more grip. Car has 100K miles on it. Stock tire pressure. No special air filters...Matter of fact, we took the time to take out the paper filter and dust it a little Saturday at the track.

The oil was changed today and the gas filter - which happened to be brown it was so dirty.

I love that this car is fast, and we do have all of the time slips to prove it. However, I was beat by a Dodge Neon RT with E85. Stock....

Here is the link to that race:

Nice run!

Weather conditions can have a huge impact on your car's performance... You can see big swings in your car's times just from varying weather conditions. Also track prep can make a big difference. A small improvement in your 60' time can have a big impact on your overall ET.
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HAHAHAHAHA! Awesome response.

Glad to see someone here actually knows something about drag racing.
The point is any car can beat any other car on any given day... ALSO, the whole idea of a 3v GT > V6 Camaro "all day long" shows a lack of knowledge about the V6 Camaro... Dr. Love is getting some typical 14 second runs in the 3v GT..... Now go look at the V6 Camaro quick list (bolt-ons). Explain to me how the 3v GT is greater than the V6 Camaro, "all day long"?

BTW... yeah, i know a thing or two about drag racing...
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Seems a bit odd because there are a few stock V6 Camaros running 9.3 in the 1/8th mile.
I ran 9.5's in the 1/8th before my mods...
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Nice run!

Weather conditions can have a huge impact on your car's performance... You can see big swings in your car's times just from varying weather conditions. Also track prep can make a big difference. A small improvement in your 60' time can have a big impact on your overall ET.
The track was better at Beech Bend. They were also putting down water as well. I tried to avoid the water. Even when I burned the tires off, I still didn't have any good traction. I am thinking that I should have avoided the water and burned the tires too. That might have helped. I just need to get my reaction time better. I am consistently between .17 and .003, but I really want to stay in the hundredths or even thousandths of a second.

Also, we are thinking about getting a gear and a tune. This will help my 60 foot time. If we do that, I will definitely be in the 8s in a 1/8 and steady 13s in the 1/4.

Since this is technically my son's car, I am trying to decide on what my daily driver is going to be in three years. I was looking at a Saturn Sky, but it may not hold up to racing, although they are fast.....

Maybe a Camaro. I think we could get it going quick, but it may take longer to get good in it because of the IRS. Hopefully, the price of used Camaros will be down in the low 20s by then.
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The track was better at Beech Bend. They were also putting down water as well. I tried to avoid the water. Even when I burned the tires off, I still didn't have any good traction. I am thinking that I should have avoided the water and burned the tires too. That might have helped. I just need to get my reaction time better. I am consistently between .17 and .003, but I really want to stay in the hundredths or even thousandths of a second.

Also, we are thinking about getting a gear and a tune. This will help my 60 foot time. If we do that, I will definitely be in the 8s in a 1/8 and steady 13s in the 1/4.

Since this is technically my son's car, I am trying to decide on what my daily driver is going to be in three years. I was looking at a Saturn Sky, but it may not hold up to racing, although they are fast.....

Maybe a Camaro. I think we could get it going quick, but it may take longer to get good in it because of the IRS. Hopefully, the price of used Camaros will be down in the low 20s by then.
Remember your Reaction Time (RT) does not effect your Elapsed Time (ET).

The turbo Sky/Solstice are nice, fun little cars, but not overly fast in stock form... they are rated at 14.0 stock... however there was at one point some GM performance parts/tune you could slap on... not sure what that did to the track times...
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Remember your Reaction Time (RT) does not effect your Elapsed Time (ET).

The turbo Sky/Solstice are nice, fun little cars, but not overly fast in stock form... they are rated at 14.0 stock... however there was at one point some GM performance parts/tune you could slap on... not sure what that did to the track times...
I do have a Dodge Intrepid that is literally on its last leg. That's why I am driving the Mustang. My husband is talking about hulling it out and making a dragster out of it. I have no idea what he has in mind. He said he would make it go fast and I could drive....
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I do have a Dodge Intrepid that is literally on its last leg. That's why I am driving the Mustang. My husband is talking about hulling it out and making a dragster out of it. I have no idea what he has in mind. He said he would make it go fast and I could drive....
You are MUCH BETTER off selling the 2006 GT as is and taking the money from that and buying a Fox body... much lighter and cheaper to make fast... Or are you hulling out the Dodge?
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You are MUCH BETTER off selling the 2006 GT as is and taking the money from that and buying a Fox body... much lighter and cheaper to make fast... Or are you hulling out the Dodge?
Hulling out the Dodge is my husband's idea. The Mustang is actually my son's. He will be 14 this year. It will transfer to him when he is 16. Can't sell it.

Fox bodies are expensive for a good, decent one. The race car will be my DD and I don't want a ragged one...LOL...

Unless we do the Intrepid. That's why the Dodge might be sacrificed. The engine is just about done even though it only has 86K on it. The suspension has been dead for a while. It was in a front end collision a few year back that put the nail in the coffin for it. Even though it was fixed, it has been downhill since. Right now it sits in the driveway leaking everything from transmission fluid to coolant. Leak after leak after leak. Every single hose on it is dryrotted...
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Hulling out the Dodge is my husband's idea. The Mustang is actually my son's. He will be 14 this year. It will transfer to him when he is 16. Can't sell it.

Fox bodies are expensive for a good, decent one. The race car will be my DD and I don't want a ragged one...LOL...

Unless we do the Intrepid. That's why the Dodge might be sacrificed. The engine is just about done even though it only has 86K on it. The suspension has been dead for a while. It was in a front end collision a few year back that put the nail in the coffin for it. Even though it was fixed, it has been downhill since. Right now it sits in the driveway leaking everything from transmission fluid to coolant. Leak after leak after leak. Every single hose on it is dryrotted...
Sounds like it would be VERY EXPENSIVE to try and make that Dodge track worthy... might be better suited for the demolition derby at your local county fair... Can't imagine how much you would have to spend to make it both SAFE and FAST....

Buddy of mine just put a very nice Fox body up for sale... $6,500... Not super fast, but really nice...

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Sounds like it would be VERY EXPENSIVE to try and make that Dodge track worthy... might be better suited for the demolition derby at your local county fair... Can't imagine how much you would have to spend to make it both SAFE and FAST....

Buddy of mine just put a very nice Fox body up for sale... $6,500... Not super fast, but really nice...

And the blue print for making these fast is there. All the parts and know-how are easy to find.
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Agreed, best bang for the buck racer is the fox body Mustangs, hands down.
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Agreed, best bang for the buck racer is the fox body Mustangs, hands down.
My whole family are Mustang freaks, but my husband doesn't care what I get. He wants me to like my car, and he will do his magic on it.
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John, how do you see a full bolt ons Camaro V6 against the Mustang GT 4.6 on track ?
Stock 4.6s I see at the track tend to be mid to low 14s.. problem is usually traction... So a full bolt-on V6 should make it a good race!
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That is cool, i would definatly look into something else other than an Intrepid though. I don't know how far he would take it, but there isn't much you can really do for them. May search for a GM car with the L67 supercharged 3.8, plenty that can be done with the them and the torque and SC whoosh (with a CAI) kicks arse.
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Stock 4.6s I see at the track tend to be mid to low 14s.. problem is usually traction... So a full bolt-on V6 should make it a good race!
My last run was 13.998. I am going to practice staging with the car around 2,000 RPM. I think I can get that time even better at that point. Traction is a problem. I am going to keep the traction control on until I am through second gear and then turn it off. This might help me stick through first and second and then glide through the rest of the gears.

We'll see how a stock GT does with some strategy. My only strategy thus far was to hit the gas an go.
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My last run was 13.998. I am going to practice staging with the car around 2,000 RPM. I think I can get that time even better at that point. Traction is a problem. I am going to keep the traction control on until I am through second gear and then turn it off. This might help me stick through first and second and then glide through the rest of the gears.

We'll see how a stock GT does with some strategy. My only strategy thus far was to hit the gas an go.
The traction control in the 2006s is not very sophisticated. Basically just majorly kills the power. Ford made huge improvements in the traction control department in 2007 or 2008...

Turning off traction control after you've already launched and have stopped spinning is NOT going to improve anything... Traction control has no effect unless it detects the tires are spinning...

If you want to see you times improve:

1) Buy a set of Drag Radials or better yet, a set of slicks. Nice thing about Drag Radials of course is depending on how much you drive, you can just leave them on the car full time. I did on mine...

2) GET A TUNE! Tunes can really wake these 4.6s up, especially automatics...
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The traction control in the 2006s is not very sophisticated. Basically just majorly kills the power. Ford made huge improvements in the traction control department in 2007 or 2008...

Turning off traction control after you've already launched and have stopped spinning is NOT going to improve anything... Traction control has no effect unless it detects the tires are spinning...

If you want to see you times improve:

1) Buy a set of Drag Radials or better yet, a set of slicks. Nice thing about Drag Radials of course is depending on how much you drive, you can just leave them on the car full time. I did on mine...

2) GET A TUNE! Tunes can really wake these 4.6s up, especially automatics...
My husband wants to put a 3.73 gear and a tune on it. He also said that some DOT approved racing slicks would help a lot. I don't drive it tons, but I think we would just change out the tires when we take it to the track.

What do you think could be shaved off on the time if we do that?
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My husband wants to put a 3.73 gear and a tune on it. He also said that some DOT approved racing slicks would help a lot. I don't drive it tons, but I think we would just change out the tires when we take it to the track.

What do you think could be shaved off on the time if we do that?
Can you post some time slips?

Car is an auto correct?
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Can you post some time slips?

Car is an auto correct?
Let me take some pics and I will post them.
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Here are my time slips from Saturday. I am car 36.
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My husband wants to put a 3.73 gear and a tune on it. He also said that some DOT approved racing slicks would help a lot. I don't drive it tons, but I think we would just change out the tires when we take it to the track.

What do you think could be shaved off on the time if we do that?
Ok... looking at your time slips, I would say a good set of tires is going to make a pretty big difference. I would say you would improve your ET by probably at least .3 and maybe a bit more... Lot of guys lover there Mickey Thompson ET Streets... get a set of nice light weight wheels to mount them on... ALSO, if you are going to be changing tires you can look at getting a set of skinnies for up front... and if you don't run skinnies up front then you should at least over inflate your stock tires... I would run the front up to like 40 to 45 PSI to make them roll easier...
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I have to agree. Your first change should be to get better traction so you can get that 60' down. You actually have pretty good gearing for the power you are making. You will hit the rev limiter at about 103-104 MPH in third, and you are trapping right around 100 now. So you have a nice margin to keep you from a shift right as you hit the finish line. Changing the gears without adding some power may hurt your ET instead of improving it.
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