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Old 04-07-2012, 11:59 AM   #1
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Thumbs up ZL1 symphonies popping everywhere!!!!*

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Old 04-07-2012, 12:13 PM   #2
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:17 PM   #3
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That sounds hideous. The first thing I'm going to have to do to my ZL1 is get rid of the crappy pop and fart. That is embarrassing in a new performance vehicle. If I wanted po and fart I'd throw on some 17 dollar glasspacks and be done with it...
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Old 04-07-2012, 01:03 PM   #4
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A lot of the Vette owners seem to like the popping on decel. Personally I like the sound of a well tuned solid roller big block on the street with no popping but I'm old school.
Here is an explanation of what's happening there.
The C6 Z06 exhaust design mandated the placement of the CAT's right next to the exhaust manifolds in order to meet cold start-up emissions. By placing the converters so close to the cylinder heads the side affect created by the larger overlap of the LS7 cam (and to a similar degree on the ZR1) is the unburned hydrocarbons are being lit-off by the CAT's and the popping condition is actually the worst when the car is cold due to the richer condition created by the cold idle/running condition. This condition has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the C6 exhaust system or muffler design!
I think more restrictive mufflers could tame the popping if you don't like it, but the popping would still be there, just quieter.
Note also that the vids of the ZL1 that we have seem all seem to be cold engines being free revved in neutral when the mixture is richest.
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Old 04-07-2012, 01:22 PM   #5
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So removing the cats would solve the popping?
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Old 04-07-2012, 01:27 PM   #6
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Sounds good to me.
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Old 04-07-2012, 01:52 PM   #7
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There is a popping sound whenever you take your foot off the gas in any gear and on downshifting. Sounds very similar to backfiring on a carbureted small block Chevy.
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Old 04-07-2012, 01:59 PM   #8
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Even my V6 pops when my cut outs are open, not nearly as loud as the ZL1 but its entirely noticeable. Im loving the louder pop from these cars...

I wonder how they made it that loud and still made the car 50 state legal?
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Old 04-08-2012, 03:02 PM   #9
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Old 04-08-2012, 07:05 PM   #10
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That sounds hideous. The first thing I'm going to have to do to my ZL1 is get rid of the crappy pop and fart. That is embarrassing in a new performance vehicle. If I wanted po and fart I'd throw on some 17 dollar glasspacks and be done with it...
Sounds great to me...certainly not embarrassing

My SS does it all the time and I love it

But different people like different things
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Old 04-08-2012, 10:27 PM   #11
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A lot of the Vette owners seem to like the popping on decel. Personally I like the sound of a well tuned solid roller big block on the street with no popping but I'm old school.
Here is an explanation of what's happening there.
The C6 Z06 exhaust design mandated the placement of the CAT's right next to the exhaust manifolds in order to meet cold start-up emissions. By placing the converters so close to the cylinder heads the side affect created by the larger overlap of the LS7 cam (and to a similar degree on the ZR1) is the unburned hydrocarbons are being lit-off by the CAT's and the popping condition is actually the worst when the car is cold due to the richer condition created by the cold idle/running condition. This condition has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the C6 exhaust system or muffler design!
I think more restrictive mufflers could tame the popping if you don't like it, but the popping would still be there, just quieter.
Note also that the vids of the ZL1 that we have seem all seem to be cold engines being free revved in neutral when the mixture is richest.
The base C6 also has the cats located near the manifolds. I did not have any decel burble in stock form. I added Borla axle back mufflers and still no burble. Once I added the LG long tube headers and moved the cats further back the decel burble started so I'm not convinced it's the location of the cats.
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Old 04-08-2012, 10:43 PM   #12
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That sounds hideous. The first thing I'm going to have to do to my ZL1 is get rid of the crappy pop and fart. That is embarrassing in a new performance vehicle. If I wanted po and fart I'd throw on some 17 dollar glasspacks and be done with it...
Are you kidding? I love it. Finally something cool about a Camaro. ;-)
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Old 04-08-2012, 10:59 PM   #14
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Wow, talk about crappy fit and finish for that dash insert, someone didn't take their time putting it on



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That sounds hideous. The first thing I'm going to have to do to my ZL1 is get rid of the crappy pop and fart. That is embarrassing in a new performance vehicle. If I wanted po and fart I'd throw on some 17 dollar glasspacks and be done with it...
I'm gonna have to agree with you, no one can say they took their time engineering that noise, it sounds like Borla's ATAK on an SS hardly anything ground breaking but OEM exhuast "Rarely" ever is...
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Wow, talk about crappy fit and finish for that dash insert, someone didn't take their time putting it on
Don't think that would work for me....
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Old 04-08-2012, 11:02 PM   #16
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Don't think that would work for me....
Yeah I'd hate to think that the moment I bought the car I would have to already take it in for warranty work to get that fixed....

Of course you could just try pushing on it cause that may be all it needs really....

I would much rather have the fake leather GM uses on that dash than recycled bottle fibers know as Alcantara....
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Yeah I noticed that too - looks bad, but hopefully an easy fix for the owner
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I'm gonna have to agree with you, no one can say they took their time engineering that noise, it sounds like Borla's ATAK on an SS hardly anything ground breaking but OEM exhuast "Rarely" ever is...
Different strokes for different folks

You're forgetting about the fact it's Dual-mode too though - thats the biggest plus point to this exhaust
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Yeah I noticed that too - looks bad, but hopefully an easy fix for the owner
Personally I plan on changing my 2010 interior eventually and I think I will likely get the insert wrapped in Orange leather and black stitching to break it up a little better... a Red option would have been nice for the ZL1..

Maybe the Camaro will get more options in the 6th gen...
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You're forgetting about the fact it's Dual-mode too though - thats the biggest plus point to this exhaust
It's really only a plus point if you like it to be quieter at some points IMHO but I'd agree with you, there are different sounds for the GT500 and ZL1.

For example the GT500 has a more refined note... Loud but not to the point where it sounds distorted...



I don't hate the sound of the ZL1 by any means but I don't love it...
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Old 04-08-2012, 11:24 PM   #21
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That sounds hideous. The first thing I'm going to have to do to my ZL1 is get rid of the crappy pop and fart. That is embarrassing in a new performance vehicle. If I wanted po and fart I'd throw on some 17 dollar glasspacks and be done with it...
First thing I changed in the SS, and first thing I'd change in the ZL1.
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If the ZL1 runs an H-Pipe, I think switching to an X-Pipe should smooth that out somewhat.
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As much as I love to hear these great cars and being happy for the people that have their's already, it also drives me crazy to watch them because I don't have mine yet. Looks like I may be one of the ones getting pushed to 2013. Starting to look like a summer without a camaro.
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I'm gonna have to agree with you, no one can say they took their time engineering that noise, it sounds like Borla's ATAK on an SS hardly anything ground breaking but OEM exhuast "Rarely" ever is...

Yeah, If mine pops and farts like that on decel, I am going to garbage that exhaust for sure. I just can't have a red neck exhaust on such a refined car.
Maybe flowmaster has a system that will fit.
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