Trade '12 SS M Steering Wheel for 10-11 SS M - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Runawayhacker · 04-07-2012, 04:54 PM

Looking to trade my 2012 2SS (Leather) Manual steering wheel for a 10' - 11' SS steering wheel (Leather).

Steering wheel is brand new and in mint condition. Bought car on 3/31/2012. For convenience, I would like to arrange for a swap with someone living in GA. I've been told the dealer will need to re-program the airbag once the swap is done.

Also, if interested, I would like to swap speedometer gauges for the old ones too. PM for details.

camaro2rs · 04-07-2012, 05:17 PM

if you want to trade your cluster let me know i have a 2010 one out of a v8

SSTG · 04-07-2012, 06:38 PM

If you had IOM stitching I would of traded. Good luck!

flht99b · 04-07-2012, 07:10 PM

Are the steering wheels a direct bolt on swap ?? Any programing required ???
Ed M.

ss_camaro_10 · 04-07-2012, 07:15 PM

ill do the gauge cluster swap with you. pm me and we can figure out when to do it.

Runawayhacker · 04-07-2012, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flht99b

Are the steering wheels a direct bolt on swap ?? Any programing required ???
Ed M.

From what I have been told, yes. The steering wheels are a direct swap. the only thing that needs to be done is the re-programming for the air bag. I'm writing to the dealership so I can have written confirmation.

TooFaSS · 04-07-2012, 09:44 PM

im in ATL... i'll trade depending on how for the air bag reprogramming

Runawayhacker · 04-07-2012, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by aSStronautStatus

im in ATL... i'll trade depending on how for the air bag reprogramming

I'll keep you on the list for sure. Waiting to get written confirmation from dealer how much and what reprogramming will need to be done before I male any sudden moves. If all goes well, and depending on the distance, I have a good relationship with the dealership, so i may be able to get it done for free.

I hesitant to take the wheel off myself. Even with the battery disconnected, I heard horror stories of the air bag deploying.

Runawayhacker · 04-10-2012, 08:48 AM

So, I just wrote to my dealership about switching out the steering wheel and gauges. Here's what he had to say.

"On today’s cars swapping an instrument panel cluster is nearly impossible due to the fact that the cluster is technically a module, which is VIN specific. As far as the steering wheel is concerned, swapping any part that is tied to the air bag system is a huge liability for us and I am going to politely decline to be involved with that process. The biggest concern for us is that both of these requests fall into an “uncharted territory” category for us and GM does not have any resources available to us if something were to not work out. We look forward to serving your future needs on your current vehicle."

OK, how much truth is there to this? Will it void my warranty if i swap them out? And was there any programming needed for the gauges? If not, I could simply swap them out myself.

TooFaSS · 04-11-2012, 08:56 AM

if he's talking like that, i may not wanna wander in that territory...

Runawayhacker · 04-11-2012, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by aSStronautStatus

if he's talking like that, i may not wanna wander in that territory...

I understand. No problem. My biggest concern is "Will it void my warranty?"

menendez1293 · 04-11-2012, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Runawayhacker

I understand. No problem. My biggest concern is "Will it void my warranty?"

I understood it as saying they don't want go do the swap because if you were to get into a crash and your air bag didn't deploy they don't want to be potentially at risk because you air bag didnt deploy and you injured yourself because an air bag that is part of the steering wheel did not function properly

Nutmg14 · 04-16-2012, 03:03 PM

Did you ever end up swapping the steering wheel?

I know lots of people have changed out the rubber wheel for the leather ones without problems..

Runawayhacker · 04-21-2012, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Nutmg14

Did you ever end up swapping the steering wheel?

I know lots of people have changed out the rubber wheel for the leather ones without problems..

Unfortunately, it isn't looking too good at the moment. I can't find a dealership willing to do the swap due to liability issues. I was able to get my hands on the gauges that I wanted, but same case. The dealer says it is VIN specific and that they won't do it :(

Any suggestions from anyone?

zogster · 04-21-2012, 10:16 AM

How is the instrument panel vin specific? I don't buy that. What happens if your instrument panel fails? Don't they just install a new one and program it to the car?

The steering wheel sounds rather risky to me. If you got badly injured because it didn't deploy and the insurance company found out it wasn't what came on the car, they might deny you bodily injury claims.

As far as warranty goes, any warranty on the steering wheel and cluster would be voided, as they would no longer be the original parts on the car.

04-07-2012, 04:54 PM	#1
Runawayhacker Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 104 View My Garage	Trade '12 SS M Steering Wheel for 10-11 SS M Looking to trade my 2012 2SS (Leather) Manual steering wheel for a 10' - 11' SS steering wheel (Leather). Steering wheel is brand new and in mint condition. Bought car on 3/31/2012. For convenience, I would like to arrange for a swap with someone living in GA. I've been told the dealer will need to re-program the airbag once the swap is done. Also, if interested, I would like to swap speedometer gauges for the old ones too. PM for details.

04-07-2012, 06:38 PM	#3
SSTG COTW 3/19/2012 Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Ofallon, Mo. Posts: 3,553	If you had IOM stitching I would of traded. Good luck! __________________ NIGHT SHADES http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=193372 (NS-1 STRIPES)

04-07-2012, 07:10 PM	#4
flht99b Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS RJT Join Date: May 2009 Location: Knoxville Posts: 1,255 View My Garage	Are the steering wheels a direct bolt on swap ?? Any programing required ??? Ed M. __________________ RJT 2SS/RS, AAM 3.70's, MTI Sway Bars, Shifter & SS brake lines, BMR Trailing & Toe Arms, full rear cradle & diff bushings, Pedders XA's, Camber/Toe eccentrics, Radius arm inserts, Hawk HPS Brake pads, GTO clutch reservoir, LS9 cam, Comp Cam valve springs, Melling 10296 oil pump, CR 5 timing chain, LS2 damper, CAI Cold Air Induction, ARH LT headers w/HF cats, GMPP touring axle back, Elite Engineering Catch Can, Forgeline 20x9 & 20x11 DS3 wheels with Pirelli Pzero 275/40/20 & 305/35/20 tires, '11 Convertible spoiler, Lloyd "SS" Floor Mats, GM Camaro Trunk Mat, GM SS Fender & LS3 Emblems.

04-07-2012, 07:15 PM	#5
ss_camaro_10 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS RS Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: South Carolina Posts: 169	ill do the gauge cluster swap with you. pm me and we can figure out when to do it. __________________

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04-07-2012, 05:17 PM	#2
camaro2rs Account Suspended Drives: camaro Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: east coast Posts: 575	if you want to trade your cluster let me know i have a 2010 one out of a v8

04-07-2012, 09:44 PM	#7
TooFaSS Drives: 2010 Camaro IBM 1SS L99 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 88 View My Garage	im in ATL... i'll trade depending on how for the air bag reprogramming

04-10-2012, 08:48 AM	#9
Runawayhacker Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 104 View My Garage	So, I just wrote to my dealership about switching out the steering wheel and gauges. Here's what he had to say. "On today’s cars swapping an instrument panel cluster is nearly impossible due to the fact that the cluster is technically a module, which is VIN specific. As far as the steering wheel is concerned, swapping any part that is tied to the air bag system is a huge liability for us and I am going to politely decline to be involved with that process. The biggest concern for us is that both of these requests fall into an “uncharted territory” category for us and GM does not have any resources available to us if something were to not work out. We look forward to serving your future needs on your current vehicle." OK, how much truth is there to this? Will it void my warranty if i swap them out? And was there any programming needed for the gauges? If not, I could simply swap them out myself.

04-11-2012, 08:56 AM	#10
TooFaSS Drives: 2010 Camaro IBM 1SS L99 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 88 View My Garage	if he's talking like that, i may not wanna wander in that territory...

04-16-2012, 03:03 PM	#13
Nutmg14 Drives: Camaro LS Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 202	Did you ever end up swapping the steering wheel? I know lots of people have changed out the rubber wheel for the leather ones without problems..

04-21-2012, 10:16 AM	#15
zogster Drives: 2011 Camaro 2LT Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: IL Posts: 475	How is the instrument panel vin specific? I don't buy that. What happens if your instrument panel fails? Don't they just install a new one and program it to the car? The steering wheel sounds rather risky to me. If you got badly injured because it didn't deploy and the insurance company found out it wasn't what came on the car, they might deny you bodily injury claims. As far as warranty goes, any warranty on the steering wheel and cluster would be voided, as they would no longer be the original parts on the car.