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ibeck · 04-08-2012, 10:28 PM

The F430 Spider is actually lighter and quicker then the F430 coupe and that would smoke a bolt on SS (I'm assuming I-H-E maybe a little more) but a 360 isn't as slow as you guys think. It lacks torque but has a huge weight advantage compared to our huge Camaro's and has a low 4 second 0-60 time. It would be a good race between a 360 and a bolt on SS but not much contest with the 430.

StlRomAniaN · 04-08-2012, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ibeck

The F430 Spider is actually lighter and quicker then the F430 coupe and that would smoke a bolt on SS (I'm assuming I-H-E maybe a little more) but a 360 isn't as slow as you guys think. It lacks torque but has a huge weight advantage compared to our huge Camaro's and has a low 4 second 0-60 time. It would be a good race between a 360 and a bolt on SS but not much contest with the 430.

F430's, depending on year, can range from 11.6-12.4 in the 1/4 mile while 360's around 12.4-12.9. The lack of torque is very noticeable, however. The trans. makes up for it though.

IROCanSS · 04-09-2012, 04:45 AM

Dude has a newer Ferrari... He wins. Even if he loses the race, he still wins.

Camarowguy · 04-09-2012, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by IROCanSS

Dude has a newer Ferrari... He wins. Even if he loses the race, he still wins.

Not really. It was broke down at the gas station. I wouldn't call that a win. I'd call it a fail. Lol

Apex Chase · 04-09-2012, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Camarowguy

So......um....maybe you could sell the Ferrari and you could afford to hire another person or two and add some phones. Just sayin.....

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Originally Posted by IROCanSS

Lol, it was a rental/loaner at SEMA. Apex gives such killer deals Chase does the work pro-bono and passes the savings on to us. No way he owns a Ferrari.

My money and the companies money are two different animals. I don't work for free but my compensation is reasonable. Beyond the pay check being the president of a successful business in this industry does have some awesome perks though.

L99CAMA2011 · 04-09-2012, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by AWD75

He will. Have you raced with any Ferrari 360 with a bolt on camaro?

Buddy, unless cammed , blown, or bottled, many bolt on gen 5s have a hard time doing this, http://www.dragtimes.com/Ferrari--360-Drag-Racing.html. Take note there are also 360 Modena CS stradale, more power, lighter, faster than these spiders.

IROCanSS · 04-09-2012, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Camarowguy

Not really. It was broke down at the gas station. I wouldn't call that a win. I'd call it a fail. Lol

Do we know WHY it was broke down? Maybe the owner is a jack ass and ran it out of gas... or... maybe it broke down. It's a machine, they break from time to time. There are PLENTY of threads about our precious Camaros dead on the side of the road.

Ferrari 430>>>>>> Camaro. Sorry.

L99CAMA2011 · 04-09-2012, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by lexlueger

Nice F430

.....oh, Ferrari's taste like chicken.

I don't know Lex, this Scuderia may eat you like chicken LOL,http://www.dragtimes.com/Ferrari-F43...lip-19223.html.

IROCanSS · 04-09-2012, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Apex Chase

My money and the companies money are two different animals. I don't work for free but my compensation is reasonable. Beyond the pay check being the president of a successful business in this industry does have some awesome perks though.

Lol, I was totally joking... But I'm sure you knew that! I sure hope you are getting paid!

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Originally Posted by L99CAMA2011

Buddy, unless cammed , blown, or bottled, many bolt on gen 5s have a hard time doing this, http://www.dragtimes.com/Ferrari--360-Drag-Racing.html. Take note there are also 360 Modena CS stradale, more power, lighter, faster than these spiders.

Wait.... You mean my $35,000 bolt on muscle car can't beat a $200,000 Italian sports car?

iHasCamaro · 04-09-2012, 07:12 AM

I thought this thread pretty much answered itself lol.

Most people who drive Ferraris don't know how to drive, or don't want to drive it hard. So most likely you won't race at all. The few Ferraris I've ever seen at the track were doing track days, not drag racing. Drag racing a Ferrari is pointless. I have a good story about one on the street but I can't post it.

Rest assured you have a far better drag racing platform. But you don't have a Ferrari. Nor will beating a Ferrari prove anything lol.

IROCanSS · 04-09-2012, 07:39 AM

Actually the Camaro (5th gen) is a pretty piss poor drag racing platform. Sorry.

It's just too heavy and once you get it to hook and turn good times, you're spending more time and WAY more money fixing broken stuff. You want a good drag racing platform, buy something else.

lexlueger · 04-09-2012, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by L99CAMA2011

I don't know Lex, this Scuderia may eat you like chicken LOL,http://www.dragtimes.com/Ferrari-F43...lip-19223.html.

Ha! Not a chance in hell.

I GOTS me some new secret weapons!!

iHasCamaro · 04-09-2012, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by IROCanSS

Actually the Camaro (5th gen) is a pretty piss poor drag racing platform. Sorry.

It's just too heavy and once you get it to hook and turn good times, you're spending more time and WAY more money fixing broken stuff. You want a good drag racing platform, buy something else.

I said far better (than a F430). Meaning for $10k you could have a really quick Camaro, or do a clutch replacement in the Ferrari. There are more parts available for the Camaro. Etc.

Edit: actually if you have the F1 gearbox i'm guessing it's about the cost of a new Camaro to refurb lol.

IROCanSS · 04-09-2012, 08:09 AM

Oh I 100% agree there. I wouldn't want to have to fix them!

Camarowguy · 04-09-2012, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by IROCanSS

Actually the Camaro (5th gen) is a pretty piss poor drag racing platform. Sorry.

It's just too heavy and once you get it to hook and turn good times, you're spending more time and WAY more money fixing broken stuff. You want a good drag racing platform, buy something else.

You sound like you really know what your talking about, so I believe you. I do.

1985airborne · 04-09-2012, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by StlRomAniaN

He will eat a 360 up. Huge lack of torque in these cars and the first generation F1 trans. is eh. Glitchy, clunky, slower shifts. The car pictured is clearly an F430 though. First clue is the much more aggressive front bumper.

OK GUYS MY BAD I THOUGHT IT WAS A 360 DEPSITE THAT, MY INITIAL QUESTION WAS REGARDING TO A 360! I NEED TO FIND A 360!

IROCanSS · 04-09-2012, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Camarowguy

You sound like you really know what your talking about, so I believe you. I do.

Ok...

Broken axels
Broken spider gears
Broken output shafts
Broken ring/pinion

All of these gets shredded on cars that aren't running crappy stock tires. It isn't because the car is so light, I can tell you that.

StlRomAniaN · 04-09-2012, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by L99CAMA2011

I don't know Lex, this Scuderia may eat you like chicken LOL,http://www.dragtimes.com/Ferrari-F43...lip-19223.html.

That Ferrari you pointed out is a F430 Scuderia so it's irrelevant to this forum, IMO. It's lighter and has about 20 more hp than the base F430. F430's should run around 11.9.

AWD75 · 04-09-2012, 02:55 PM

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Buddy, unless cammed , blown, or bottled, many bolt on gen 5s have a hard time doing this, http://www.dragtimes.com/Ferrari--360-Drag-Racing.html. Take note there are also 360 Modena CS stradale, more power, lighter, faster than these spiders.

I have raced with many 360's and they are very agile and nimble but,the times that you are showing me are hero times for the 360.They mostly averaging high12's. Also you can beat a 360 with full external bolt-ons.From a dig and roll.

1985airborne · 04-09-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Camarowguy

Not really. It was broke down at the gas station. I wouldn't call that a win. I'd call it a fail. Lol

LMAO

Camarowguy · 04-09-2012, 07:18 PM

I wouldn't put Lambo doors on anything except, well, a Lambo. It's pure comedy to see someone get out Of any other car with those doors. Pure silliness.

L99CAMA2011 · 04-09-2012, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by IROCanSS

Lol, I was totally joking... But I'm sure you knew that! I sure hope you are getting paid!

Wait.... You mean my $35,000 bolt on muscle car can't beat a $200,000 Italian sports car?

Well I saw some Aston Martins that can be beat no joke.

L99CAMA2011 · 04-09-2012, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by lexlueger

Ha! Not a chance in hell.

I GOTS me some new secret weapons!!

Some how I knew you had something up your sleeve LOL. Just wanted you to say it.

L99CAMA2011 · 04-09-2012, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AWD75

I have raced with many 360's and they are very agile and nimble but,the times that you are showing me are hero times for the 360.They mostly averaging high12's. Also you can beat a 360 with full external bolt-ons.From a dig and roll.

Good then it makes me proud to own a gen 5 Camaro SS.

IROCanSS · 04-09-2012, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Camarowguy

I wouldn't put Lambo doors on anything except, well, a Lambo. It's pure comedy to see someone get out Of any other car with those doors. Pure silliness.

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04-09-2012, 04:45 AM	#28
IROCanSS Account Suspended Drives: 89 IROC 350 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Back roads, southern Ohio Posts: 12,521 View My Garage	Dude has a newer Ferrari... He wins. Even if he loses the race, he still wins.

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iHasCamaro Drives: Silver 2012 1SS Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 366	I thought this thread pretty much answered itself lol. Most people who drive Ferraris don't know how to drive, or don't want to drive it hard. So most likely you won't race at all. The few Ferraris I've ever seen at the track were doing track days, not drag racing. Drag racing a Ferrari is pointless. I have a good story about one on the street but I can't post it. Rest assured you have a far better drag racing platform. But you don't have a Ferrari. Nor will beating a Ferrari prove anything lol.

04-09-2012, 07:39 AM	#36
IROCanSS Account Suspended Drives: 89 IROC 350 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Back roads, southern Ohio Posts: 12,521 View My Garage	Actually the Camaro (5th gen) is a pretty piss poor drag racing platform. Sorry. It's just too heavy and once you get it to hook and turn good times, you're spending more time and WAY more money fixing broken stuff. You want a good drag racing platform, buy something else.

04-09-2012, 08:09 AM	#39
IROCanSS Account Suspended Drives: 89 IROC 350 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Back roads, southern Ohio Posts: 12,521 View My Garage	Oh I 100% agree there. I wouldn't want to have to fix them!