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Old 04-08-2012, 03:07 PM   #1
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2011 ls3 ss vs 2002 ss?

I just got my car.. 02 SS 70k slp lid,k&n filter, smooth bellow, e-cutout and a lm2.

Friends dads car: 2010 SS 6spd with magnaflow muffler.


He keeps talking shit about how I should have bought a Real camaro and his is fast because he got a 6spd and a magnaflow muffler lol..

So would I pull him or would it be pretty even? Im on 275 nitto 555r jn the rear.

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Old 04-08-2012, 03:11 PM   #2
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Also keep in mind i have no clue if ge can drive. He weighs like 220 ish and i only weigh 125 lol
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Old 04-08-2012, 03:41 PM   #3
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If he is good with a manual he will win. I have raced full bolt on 2002 z28 camaros and firebirds at the track and It has been close but I would win by about a car length or 2.
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Old 04-08-2012, 03:43 PM   #4
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Race him an tell us, unless ur scared. Sounds like ur 2 little girls sayin each other aren't pretty
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Old 04-08-2012, 03:46 PM   #5
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Lol i want to race him! He is the one talking and wont do it... I figured it would be close
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Old 04-08-2012, 04:09 PM   #6
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02 LS1 SS (basically - intake and exhaust - stock headers)
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If he is a highly skilled driver, he should beat you by a couple cars. If he's not so great at driving, you could easily beat him. Lots of LS3 SS drivers can't drive very well and run slow times at the track.
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Old 04-08-2012, 04:14 PM   #7
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Should be pretty even, maybe a little edge going to the 02
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Old 04-08-2012, 04:26 PM   #8
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Old 04-08-2012, 04:34 PM   #9
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Come to Alabama and I will beat you.
Dude please dont talk crap. I was just wondering the outcome. I race for fun with my dad on the weekends. We have a 96z that we race with that could take his camaro, i just wanted tO know ablout my dd.
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Old 04-08-2012, 04:48 PM   #10
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My old DD was a 2000 Z28 with full bolt ons...long tubes, duals that didn't fit lol, LS6 intake, SLP ram air/bellows/lid and fully tuned. When I got my 2010 LS3 SS, bone stock it pulled away from the 2000 on the highway...not by a lot, but just a little bit. My 2000 was a late 2000 with factory 241 heads, so the only difference from it to your 2002 realistically was the transmission (mine was a T56 car) and the cam, which was slightly larger in the pre-2001 cars...so realistically, I'd say that if your car is an auto, which I think it is, you might have him off the line, but his car will catch yours and pull away from it.
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Old 04-08-2012, 05:16 PM   #11
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I'd say drivers race from a stop and the 5th Gen would pull you from a roll.
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Old 04-08-2012, 05:23 PM   #12
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Alright thanks guys! Hopefully we can get this thing going!
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Old 04-08-2012, 06:02 PM   #13
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You should tell him you bought the real Camaro. He bought a re-bodied Holden.

On topic, I think you'll edge him out. Your car stock runs similar times to brand new Camaro SSs. With your mods you should have him.
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Old 04-08-2012, 07:38 PM   #14
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Old 04-09-2012, 02:47 AM   #15
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Old 04-09-2012, 11:18 AM   #16
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Damn bro, your a tool...
Its ok. He can be a tool its just the internet, right? But im hoping to run a 12.9 if possible. Think I could do that?
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:56 PM   #17
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Its ok. He can be a tool its just the internet, right? But im hoping to run a 12.9 if possible. Think I could do that?
with a bolt on ls1 car? yup.
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Couple months ago we a few of us were at the track playing with one of my buddies 2010 Z06 automatic.Between 4 of us NO ONE was able to get out of the 12's.

I believe torque managnent was killing us that night, when launching the car would take off and fall flat on it's face.
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Old 04-10-2012, 06:43 PM   #18
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My experience...

I had a 2002 LS1 SS automatic..... I had ebay headers, lid, and a tune. I ran in the middle heat of summer 25 minutes straight to the track, right onto the strip with no cool down, and ran a 13.0 @ 108 right off the bat...

I have a 2010 LS3 now, and I have yet to muster any better than a 13.4 at the same track (although this was last summer with no mods except the same exhaust... my intake may have helped, but I dont think tunes help much on manuals)...


My summary...


I dont care what anyone else says, in my own opinion, my 02' SS was the fastest, best drag car I have ever had. I really love my 10' SS .... but damn If I was on a lie detector test and had to answer what the best/fastest drag car I have ever had... it would be that 02'.

I say, go out there with no worries. Sounds like you've got a good lower mile car, and if it has not been abused, you'll walk that new SS ... especially in this heat.

Miss my LS1 ... and trust me, I am not biased... I REALLY LOVE MY LS3...
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As long as it has enough horsepower, I don't really care if it's a 4, a 6, an 8, or a 10.
And I don't really car how they make the horsepower, whether it a Turbo, supercharged or just a whole lot of hamsters.
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:46 PM   #19
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Depends on the driver. My Camaro will pull on the TA pretty well from a roll, but from a dig the TA holds up a little better. In the end though the Camaro has been faster every time.
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Old 04-11-2012, 03:07 PM   #20
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Hate to say it, but I'm also on the side with the '02 .

However, it's ULTIMATELY a DRIVER'S RACE .

Traction (or lack thereof) and proper launch are critical for both cars. Whichever one slips up off the line, loses.
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Old 04-25-2012, 01:43 PM   #21
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I had an 01 firehawk with T56, SLP headers, lid, and the 1LE packagage. I never took it to the track but that thing was a beast. I just bought an 12 1ss and although it's brand new so I haven't really messed with it too much, my butt-o-meter tells me that the hawk would have killed the SS.
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Old 04-25-2012, 01:48 PM   #22
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My old DD was a 2000 Z28 with full bolt ons...long tubes, duals that didn't fit lol, LS6 intake, SLP ram air/bellows/lid and fully tuned. When I got my 2010 LS3 SS, bone stock it pulled away from the 2000 on the highway...not by a lot, but just a little bit. My 2000 was a late 2000 with factory 241 heads, so the only difference from it to your 2002 realistically was the transmission (mine was a T56 car) and the cam, which was slightly larger in the pre-2001 cars...so realistically, I'd say that if your car is an auto, which I think it is, you might have him off the line, but his car will catch yours and pull away from it.
I believe it for sure.

My friend has a 2000 z28 m6 h/c car at 420rwhp. When I had full bolt ons @ ~430rwhp I beat him from a 40-130 roll (local air strip) by about 1 car 3 times in a row. In his defense I think his tune needs a bit of work...he could be down ~15hp from optimal. Their is a long thread about the race on ls1tech that no one would believe lol...he even replied in it and is a long time member. Most HATE this car on ls1 tech...

He just messed with me the other day for a bit now that we have equal mods...I literally pulled him like he never hit the gas lol.

These cars are STRONG from a roll. The weight is heavily negated and you dont have to worry about traction nearly as much.

OP...from a roll he gets you....from a stop it is up to his driving...I would bet on you having an auto and DR's.

Also...seat of the pants is a horrible gauge of performance. I didnt even want to race my friends car when I had bolt ons. I thought he was going to DESTROY me. Now that I have 505rwhp my car SOTPants feels about equal to his now. But that is FAR from the truth.
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This is a super old thread, but I did end up running him and beating him by a little less than 1/2 a car! It was close and he was reeling me hard at the top end. I got a really good launch. 1.8 '60 on 275 nitto 555r's. and ran a 12.91 @ 106. So got both my goals
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Old 09-12-2013, 07:34 AM   #25
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This is a super old thread, but I did end up running him and beating him by a little less than 1/2 a car! It was close and he was reeling me hard at the top end. I got a really good launch. 1.8 '60 on 275 nitto 555r's. and ran a 12.91 @ 106. So got both my goals
Nice job, and before everyone comes in blaming the driver, I think it is better to out-drive your opponent than expect your car to do it for you. Ideally you do both, but you know what I mean

LS1 Fbody's are still awesome cars with lots of potential.
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