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Old 04-10-2012, 06:23 PM   #1
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PROUD CHEVY & ZL1 FAN

I wont go into alot of details , But I am so proud to be a Chevy Fan and a Camaro ZL1 owner. Today was one of those days that happen once in a while and bring a smile to your face. I would like to thank all the Awesome Team members of Oshawa Plant and Chevy for all the great work and awesome products they make.

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Old 04-10-2012, 06:29 PM   #2
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Congrats on your new ZL1.
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Old 04-10-2012, 06:32 PM   #3
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I love days like that. Glad you're enjoying the ZL1!
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Old 04-10-2012, 06:42 PM   #4
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Honestly it is all about the people who build , sell, work on these awesome cars. Chevy Rocks !!!!!!!!!
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Old 04-10-2012, 06:42 PM   #5
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Glad you had one of those days! Hope your ZL1 is treating you well!
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Old 04-10-2012, 06:45 PM   #6
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Congrats on your new baby! Had a SIM ZL1 go by me on my way home from work tonight, they look really good in the rear view mirror!
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Old 04-10-2012, 06:48 PM   #7
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Wont go into details; sound like ya put the pedal to the metal on a closed street ( yah that's the ticket) and went from PermaGrin to ULTRA GRIN
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I wont go into alot of details , But I am so proud to be a Chevy Fan and a Camaro ZL1 owner. Today was one of those days that happen once in a while and bring a smile to your face. I would like to thank all the Awesome Team members of Oshawa Plant and Chevy for all the great work and awesome products they make.

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Well said!!!!!!!!!!
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I wont go into alot of details , But I am so proud to be a Chevy Fan and a Camaro ZL1 owner. Today was one of those days that happen once in a while and bring a smile to your face. I would like to thank all the Awesome Team members of Oshawa Plant and Chevy for all the great work and awesome products they make.

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Come on! Just a little hint?
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Old 04-10-2012, 07:26 PM   #10
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I had a great customer service experience today
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I have no problems with the guys that design and build the cars........its always upper management and bean counters that designate product allotment and create a distribution screw up.....
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Old 04-10-2012, 09:38 PM   #12
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Always had a lot of love for the GM team. Never anything but top notch IMO. I was able to get a special tour of the Camaro factory in St. Therese, Quebec before they shut down production. Have yet to get down to the Oshawa plant, but that's on my list. After years and years of waiting, I am super happy to be apart of the Camaro family and that's what its all about.
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Old 04-10-2012, 11:56 PM   #13
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I have no problems with the guys that design and build the cars........its always upper management and bean counters that designate product allotment and create a distribution screw up.....
I cannot speak for Canada - but the people who pass laws (and in this case specifically, 'franchise laws') in each State within the United States are elected officials. They are not GM employees.
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:11 AM   #14
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I cannot speak for Canada - but the people who pass laws (and in this case specifically, 'franchise laws') in each State within the United States are elected officials. They are not GM employees.
Scott I feel bad for you, I believe you had said this maybe a million times and people don't listen.

I didn't know anything about these laws, since this is the first time a preorder a car - is painful, but again i do understand is not GM fault.

Thanks for all your help and support throught out this time.

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Old 04-11-2012, 06:43 AM   #15
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Not sure what everyone is talking about. This was about a Great experience I had with GM and their employees. A employee who went out of his way to help me out!!!!!!
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:43 AM   #16
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Guys, I think I will try that one again....would you believe late nite post?.........Yes it definitely is about the people that design and build these hot products. Period. What I am seeing with this car is a failure at the top (GM management) and their communication with the dealerships, and the resultant lack thereof in disseminating product info to respective zl1 customers in a timely and orderly manner........this creates anxiety and hostilites, etc.........the way I see it you can either build me a car or you can't.......just let me know and I will move on.........it really is that simple
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Old 04-11-2012, 07:59 AM   #17
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Just 1 great Chevy employee who made me proud to be A Chevy FAN and it shows people do care.
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Old 04-11-2012, 09:30 AM   #18
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I have no problems with the guys that design and build the cars........its always upper management and bean counters that designate product allotment and create a distribution screw up.....
This is another example of a situation where things are not quite as simple as some may believe.

At a high level it's a concept that seems so simple -- Order a car from a dealer, the dealer places the order with GM, and then GM manufactures the vehicle and ships it to the dealer where it is delivered to the customer.

That is very close to what happens when one orders a vehicle that is not a high demand vehicle for which there is an abundant production ability. However, when one wants to order a vehicle for which there are considerably more willing buyers than there are vehicles that can be produced in a given period, that's when the complexities come in to play.

If GM, as an automobile manufacturer, were able to sell vehicles directly to consumers, a FIFO order and delivery process possibly could be used, and consumers might be able to obtain high demand vehicles on a first come first served basis. However, in the U.S it is illegal for an automobile manufacturer to sell a vehicle directly to a consumer because all fifty states have automobile franchise laws that require that new cars must be sold to consumers by dealers and not by manufacturers.

Many may ask why states have automobile franchise laws. The reason they exist is that prior to the enacting of the franchise laws manufacturers had tremendous power compared to dealerships, and, therefore, the state automobile franchise laws were initially written in an attempt to protect automobile dealers by neutralizing the disparity in bargaining power between the automobile manufacturers and the dealers.

However, many now believe that current automobile franchise laws go too far and heavily favor the automobile dealers -- due to their political clout. An example is that automobile dealerships have gained territorial monopolies (called geographic areas) from their manufacturers, fending off anyone who might want to muscle in by opening a competing franchise.

The automobile franchise laws are complex and they vary from state to state, and GM must comply with all of them. Therefore, it's not just a simple matter of one walking into any dealer, placing an order for a high demand vehicle, and then having GM produce and deliver it on demand.

We all should try to remember that things in life are rarely as simple as they appear to be at first glance.
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