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AdamZ · 04-27-2012, 12:27 AM

Good thing I sold my 2012 LS and got an 11 2SS

THUMPER20X · 04-27-2012, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidsmoke

Prob not. They likely will just glue it back down instead of replacing it.

No chance of that it'll keep lifting.

OPP · 04-27-2012, 04:45 AM

Checking in. Mine has the same problem since I drove it off the lot. I may get it replaced when they figure out a better solution for it.

djm96z28 · 04-27-2012, 06:30 AM

Can you press on the area and feel a loose space between it and the dashboard? Mine sort of looks like that in a small area, but when I press on it, there is no give at all. It seems attached to the surface below it.

Also, if you look at it from the side, can you see the raised spots from that angle? Mine looks pretty flat from the side, so I'm not sure if I have this problem (yet) or not.

strych9 · 04-27-2012, 08:07 AM

I'm always paranoid about dash damage from sunlight. That's why the first thing I do is get the windows tinted dark, and I always put up a windshield shade when parked in the sun.

@ 900 miles as of this morning, dash is perfect. I'll keep a sharp eye on it.

DuhKoDuh · 04-27-2012, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BowtieBelle

Glad it's not an issue on our '10's-11's!

X2

_Nick_ · 04-27-2012, 08:16 AM

Landau top adhesive should hold it down permanently if it is seperating from the plastic dash, but that isn't exactly easy to obtain.

powerslave · 04-27-2012, 08:27 AM

Mine looks fine and it's the same as the pics since I drove it off the lot. It looks like leather stretched over plastic, which looks much better than plastic... If an edge lifted or something then I'd care.

EDIT: No "give" to it.

Fiveg56 · 04-27-2012, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidsmoke

Just curious cuz I have a 2010, but is the dash even real leather or is it just like the leather on the rear seats, which is not real.

Not sure if it's real....it looks and feels like leather to me. It's nice upgrade from the 10-11 dash, but not if it's going to start falling apart. No problems on mine yet, but I'll be keeping an eye on it.

garcmol · 04-27-2012, 09:16 AM

Oh crap. I'm getting visions of C5 Corvette doors. Same thing happens (to some). Not good.

The Corvette leather is vacuumed/glued on and there are little sealed holes on the back of the door skin. I don't know if it would be the same for the Camaro leather on the dash, and frankly I can't see a way to get behind it.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...up-how-to.html

This is a how to on that process. Someone may be able to use part of the write-up to find a fix or a DIY. Good luck OP, hope this gets fixed for you!

THUMPER20X · 04-27-2012, 09:47 AM

its definitely because its a triple curve in the area. As everything contracts and expands it pulls it away from the dash carrier, this is ultra common on alot of older exotic cars, thats why now you rarely see leather wrapped in an indent bordered by two humps. It's a bit of a cardinal rule of upholstry and surprised GM did this. I could see them TSBing this to swap in to a 10-11 dash carrier. It's just a bad idea on a dash they coulda left as it was and just upgraded the console stack, dash cluster etc. Hizzah!!!!! for my bland plastic dash lol.

hawk02 · 04-27-2012, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackswan

The strip of dash just under the center vents has a bubble in it that seems to have formed over time (I know it wasn't that way a few months ago).

Anyone else have this?

When I wipe that area of dash it makes a popping, crackling sound. I'm guessing the glue has lost its hold and it's just a matter of time before a bubble appears.

FL1CK · 04-27-2012, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 11BEE

We have a 2011 RS V6 that is my daily driver to and from work. I am one of the bad Camaro drivers that puts about 20K a year on my car.

We also have our weekend car (actually my wife's that she lets me think I have some ownership in) which is the 2012 2SS 45th Anniversary package. That is the one having the issue.

11BEE · 04-27-2012, 04:52 PM

Mine visibly move around and you can see where air has filled in to the bubbles.

awfarley · 04-27-2012, 05:01 PM

Yes, I was going to post the exact some thing until I found this thread. I can replicate your image 100%. Mine is bubbling in the exact same spot.

Will post photo when I get home.

I understand its just a bubble, but I didn't put my money into something new to have an inferior quality dash panel come apart. Talking to my dealer soon.

strych9 · 04-27-2012, 05:43 PM

If it's a widespread enough problem, they will issue a TSB to address it. Unless you're nearing the end of your 3/36 warranty, it would be best to wait to see if a TSB comes forward. Why? If you don't, they'll just put the same inferior design right back in the defect's place. Don't know about any of you, but I really don't want a tech tearing into my interior any more than is absolutely necessary. If anything, have them draw up an invoice to show the complaint, but don't let them fix it. That will at least make GM aware of the issue. My $.02

Hurst equipped · 04-27-2012, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidsmoke

Prob not. They likely will just glue it back down instead of replacing it.

+1 i agree..
only a problem of not enough glue..

awfarley · 04-27-2012, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strych9

If it's a widespread enough problem, they will issue a TSB to address it. Unless you're nearing the end of your 3/36 warranty, it would be best to wait to see if a TSB comes forward. Why? If you don't, they'll just put the same inferior design right back in the defect's place. Don't know about any of you, but I really don't want a tech tearing into my interior any more than is absolutely necessary. If anything, have them draw up an invoice to show the complaint, but don't let them fix it. That will at least make GM aware of the issue. My $.02

Good Point.

cmb74656 · 04-27-2012, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Nick_

Landau top adhesive should hold it down permanently if it is separating from the plastic dash, but that isn't exactly easy to obtain.

It's probably been banned because it's not 'environmentally friendly.'

awfarley · 04-27-2012, 07:22 PM

blackswan · 04-27-2012, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawk02

When I wipe that area of dash it makes a popping, crackling sound. I'm guessing the glue has lost its hold and it's just a matter of time before a bubble appears.

Same

My Caroline · 04-28-2012, 07:39 AM

Uh oh. Wonder what's gonna happen when it reaches 110 here in Texas? Is the whole interior gonna melt?

Satins Spawn · 04-28-2012, 07:51 AM

nope

Chevrolet Customer Svc · 04-28-2012, 02:42 PM

At this point in this issue I would suggest that everyone who has this get it checked over by your dealers and see what they can do for you. Hopefully that gets it fixed. If not let me know and I'll do what I can to help all of you.

Jeff Morris, Chevrolet Customer Service

blackswan · 04-28-2012, 02:54 PM

Who said this was heat related?

04-27-2012, 04:45 AM	#28
OPP Drives: 45th anniversary SS Coupe L99 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico Posts: 869 View My Garage	Checking in. Mine has the same problem since I drove it off the lot. I may get it replaced when they figure out a better solution for it. __________________

04-27-2012, 06:30 AM	#29
djm96z28 Drives: 2012 Camaro 1SS LS3 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Jacksonville FL Posts: 753	Can you press on the area and feel a loose space between it and the dashboard? Mine sort of looks like that in a small area, but when I press on it, there is no give at all. It seems attached to the surface below it. Also, if you look at it from the side, can you see the raised spots from that angle? Mine looks pretty flat from the side, so I'm not sure if I have this problem (yet) or not. Last edited by djm96z28; 04-27-2012 at 07:08 AM.

04-27-2012, 08:07 AM	#30
strych9 U can't handle the truth Drives: 2012 2SS/RS/TF3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 1,685 View My Garage	I'm always paranoid about dash damage from sunlight. That's why the first thing I do is get the windows tinted dark, and I always put up a windshield shade when parked in the sun. @ 900 miles as of this morning, dash is perfect. I'll keep a sharp eye on it. __________________ SP 1 7/8" LT Headers \| Cat Delete \| Flowmaster AT Cat-back \| CAI Intake \| JRE Scoop \| Jannetty Tune --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 of 371 total TF3 SS 6-speeds built Build Journal

04-27-2012, 08:16 AM	#32
_Nick_ Drives: '87 T/A, '87 IROC Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Long Island Posts: 421	Landau top adhesive should hold it down permanently if it is seperating from the plastic dash, but that isn't exactly easy to obtain. __________________

04-27-2012, 08:27 AM	#33
powerslave Assembly: April 12/12 Drives: A Self-Propelled Mechanical Vehicle Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: PE, Canada Posts: 481 View My Garage	Mine looks fine and it's the same as the pics since I drove it off the lot. It looks like leather stretched over plastic, which looks much better than plastic... If an edge lifted or something then I'd care. EDIT: No "give" to it. Last edited by powerslave; 04-27-2012 at 09:30 AM.

04-27-2012, 12:27 AM	#26
AdamZ Drives: Eve - 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Fairfield, OH Posts: 16,599	Good thing I sold my 2012 LS and got an 11 2SS

04-27-2012, 09:16 AM	#35
garcmol Drives: 10 1LT SIM; 91 B4C sleeper Z Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ft. Mitchell, Alabama Posts: 7,548	Oh crap. I'm getting visions of C5 Corvette doors. Same thing happens (to some). Not good. The Corvette leather is vacuumed/glued on and there are little sealed holes on the back of the door skin. I don't know if it would be the same for the Camaro leather on the dash, and frankly I can't see a way to get behind it. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...up-how-to.html This is a how to on that process. Someone may be able to use part of the write-up to find a fix or a DIY. Good luck OP, hope this gets fixed for you! __________________ Pedders Pace Car Package, Injen CAI, Flowmaster AT, AAC Lighting, ZL1 fascia/skirts, RKSport Ram Air hood, vented fenders, painted stripes (Gary's Customz), Honor and Valor badged (Thank you, John)

04-27-2012, 09:47 AM	#36
THUMPER20X GM fix my PAINT U suck! Drives: 2010 Black 1SS/RS 6Spd Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Great Red North Posts: 1,832	its definitely because its a triple curve in the area. As everything contracts and expands it pulls it away from the dash carrier, this is ultra common on alot of older exotic cars, thats why now you rarely see leather wrapped in an indent bordered by two humps. It's a bit of a cardinal rule of upholstry and surprised GM did this. I could see them TSBing this to swap in to a 10-11 dash carrier. It's just a bad idea on a dash they coulda left as it was and just upgraded the console stack, dash cluster etc. Hizzah!!!!! for my bland plastic dash lol. __________________

04-27-2012, 04:52 PM	#39
11BEE 11 BEE Drives: 2011 LS2 RS & 2012 2SS RS 45th Vert Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Kingwood, TX Posts: 1,164	Mine visibly move around and you can see where air has filled in to the bubbles. __________________ 11Bee and I♥My45th

04-27-2012, 05:01 PM	#40
awfarley Drives: 2011 5.7L Tundra Double-Cab X-SP Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 2,037	Yes, I was going to post the exact some thing until I found this thread. I can replicate your image 100%. Mine is bubbling in the exact same spot. Will post photo when I get home. I understand its just a bubble, but I didn't put my money into something new to have an inferior quality dash panel come apart. Talking to my dealer soon.

04-27-2012, 05:43 PM	#41
strych9 U can't handle the truth Drives: 2012 2SS/RS/TF3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 1,685 View My Garage	If it's a widespread enough problem, they will issue a TSB to address it. Unless you're nearing the end of your 3/36 warranty, it would be best to wait to see if a TSB comes forward. Why? If you don't, they'll just put the same inferior design right back in the defect's place. Don't know about any of you, but I really don't want a tech tearing into my interior any more than is absolutely necessary. If anything, have them draw up an invoice to show the complaint, but don't let them fix it. That will at least make GM aware of the issue. My $.02 __________________ SP 1 7/8" LT Headers \| Cat Delete \| Flowmaster AT Cat-back \| CAI Intake \| JRE Scoop \| Jannetty Tune --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 of 371 total TF3 SS 6-speeds built Build Journal

04-27-2012, 07:22 PM	#45
awfarley Drives: 2011 5.7L Tundra Double-Cab X-SP Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 2,037	Here ya go. Small ones forming on the right and left of the main one...

04-28-2012, 07:39 AM	#47
My Caroline Drives: Black 2011 Camaro LS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 1,372	Uh oh. Wonder what's gonna happen when it reaches 110 here in Texas? Is the whole interior gonna melt? __________________ White Fender Hashes from Big Worm Graphix Custom White Bowties GM Factory Remote Start and Factory Key Fob SS Fascia Factory RS HIDs Plasma P13W fog lights Non-RS to RS and fog light harness by Gen5DIY LED Interior, Trunk, and Licence Plate lights in white Stock SS 20s (Coming soon)

04-28-2012, 07:51 AM	#48
Satins Spawn Drives: Black SS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 16	nope

04-28-2012, 02:42 PM	#49
Chevrolet Customer Svc Drives: GM Vehicles Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,859	At this point in this issue I would suggest that everyone who has this get it checked over by your dealers and see what they can do for you. Hopefully that gets it fixed. If not let me know and I'll do what I can to help all of you. Jeff Morris, Chevrolet Customer Service

04-28-2012, 02:54 PM	#50
blackswan Drives: 2012 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Earth Posts: 904	Who said this was heat related? __________________

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