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Old 10-03-2012, 04:32 PM   #409
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GM has no fix for this issue as of yet, and it isnt looking like it will be resolved anytime soon either.
\damn that sucks.
i really like the look of the 12 dash . is it the heat inside the car that causes it or the sun from the windshield ?
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Old 10-03-2012, 04:46 PM   #410
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\damn that sucks.
i really like the look of the 12 dash . is it the heat inside the car that causes it or the sun from the windshield ?
not sure real sure to be honest.
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Old 10-03-2012, 07:07 PM   #411
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Picked up the car...to be honest, just frustrated now w/ the dealership. They gave me the o'le since that those corner pieces are also listed as defective from manufacturing, we can't fix that either. So I am stuck with a hideos looking (IMO) leather dash trim, with a part that will bubble up in time, only to hope GM issues a fix. On top of it, they washed the car when I asked not to wash it, but didn't even clean the dirt from their hands which is all over the new dash panel. Two trips to the dealer, with today being completely pointless and a waste of my time and money (gas). No compensation, nothing...just heres the door, enjoy!

Side note: I did finally get in contac with the service manager who happened to have taken the day off, sadly she had a loss of someone close to her. I really didn't feel like troubling her day anymore with what was going on with the service techs.
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Old 10-04-2012, 04:02 AM   #412
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Picked up the car...to be honest, just frustrated now w/ the dealership.
I hear you, dcplus14.

I don't care if the problems posted on this Forum are 1 out of every 1,000 Camaros sold. It's the lack of support from GM and the poor performance of both the dealer and their techs toward that ONE which ticks customers off. And rightly so.

If you buy a VOLT and have a problem, GM calls you back at all hours of the day and night & sends someone the next day to make it go away.
They overnight all parts and offer to wipe your butt while your car is being fixed. They have a dedicated team in place to make sure owners of their rolling fireball stay happy.

I know; I own one. I realize that if the Volt sold as well as the Camaro, they'd tell me to piss-off. But it proves GM can make problems go away very, very fast when it wants to.

GM is retiring the Avalanche after this year. If they can't get it right, GM needs to take a long, hard look at the convertible Camaro.
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Old 10-04-2012, 05:52 PM   #413
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I'm just jealous that you guys got the diagnostic reports and all from onstar! I never got anything, and my wife's onstar never worked in her 12 Malibu :-(
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Old 10-04-2012, 05:59 PM   #414
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I'm just jealous that you guys got the diagnostic reports and all from onstar! I never got anything, and my wife's onstar never worked in her 12 Malibu :-(
Was it ever activated by the dealer and did you complete the activation at delivery?
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:09 PM   #415
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Was it ever activated by the dealer and did you complete the activation at delivery?
I sure did. I even used the navigation/ directions feature once.
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:38 PM   #416
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I sure did. I even used the navigation/ directions feature once.
No GM car is allowed to leave the dealer's lot without OnStar Registration. NONE. OnStar is activated by the dealer when it is received, and then registered to the owner/lessee when it is delivered.

All you can do is call OnStar and cancel it yourself AFTER you've taken possession of the car and the system's been registered to you. But why bother? It's free for a year. Unless you don't like them listening to your cabin conversations or timing your speed.

The Monthly Vehicle Diagnostic Report is convenient, but it's also a nag to get you back to the dealer for service, take out low-mileage car insurance, buy Hands-Free calling minutes, and upgrade to Directions & Reservations.

They told me my dash isn't bubbling.
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:51 PM   #417
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...you guys got the diagnostic reports and all from onstar! I never got anything...
You have to sign up for the Reports; they're not sent automatically without an Agreement. You push the Blue Button and ask to receive them monthly by email. You're also agreeing to receiving "Important information and offers of value to GM Customers."
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Old 10-05-2012, 07:27 PM   #418
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No GM car is allowed to leave the dealer's lot without OnStar Registration. NONE. OnStar is activated by the dealer when it is received, and then registered to the owner/lessee when it is delivered.

All you can do is call OnStar and cancel it yourself AFTER you've taken possession of the car and the system's been registered to you. But why bother? It's free for a year. Unless you don't like them listening to your cabin conversations or timing your speed.

The Monthly Vehicle Diagnostic Report is convenient, but it's also a nag to get you back to the dealer for service, take out low-mileage car insurance, buy Hands-Free calling minutes, and upgrade to Directions & Reservations.

They told me my dash isn't bubbling.
Congrats on the dash not bubbling! The onstar function didn't work on the 12 Malibu when we drove it off the lot and the sales guy just said " oh well ". The wife never used it so she didn't care.
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Old 10-05-2012, 07:29 PM   #419
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You have to sign up for the Reports; they're not sent automatically without an Agreement. You push the Blue Button and ask to receive them monthly by email. You're also agreeing to receiving "Important information and offers of value to GM Customers."
I agreed and gave my email address when I set up service with onstar (leaving the lot) but never recived an email report. It's no big, just showed me that I didn't need it anyway.
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Old 10-05-2012, 07:31 PM   #420
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Congrats on the dash not bubbling! The onstar function didn't work on the 12 Malibu when we drove it off the lot and the sales guy just said " oh well ". The wife never used it so she didn't care.
I think that some 12's has a software glitch that it needs reprogramming. But if you and you wife don't care about it not working then I guess it's not a big deal until you sell it.
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Old 10-05-2012, 11:11 PM   #421
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I agreed and gave my email address when I set up service with onstar (leaving the lot) but never recived an email report. It's no big, just showed me that I didn't need it anyway.
In a way you were lucky.

I gave OnStar a unique email address.

In addition to the Monthly Diagnostic Reports, I get emails asking if I want to...
1. go to Best Buy and put OnStar in my non-GM vehicles...
2. buy Farmers Insurance because my yearly mileage is so low...
3. get the latest Camaro racing hats and mousepads, and other various solicitations sent to that unique email address.

If OnStar doesn't work when you go to sell/trade your car, a GM dealer can fix it in a jiffy and reestablish the link.
Don't let them take any money off for that. It's in the deal having GM a part-owner of OnStar.
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Old 10-07-2012, 11:35 PM   #422
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Just wanted to report that my dash has held up well since the repair....no bubbling!


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Old 10-08-2012, 12:24 AM   #423
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not sure real sure to be honest.
I think their vendor cheaped out on the glue! When it gets hot the glue releases gases that are then trapped between the Pleather resulting in the bubbles. This is the problem with todays cars. Most of the parts are made by outside vendors so when it goes into production its quality is up to the vendor to maintain and not the car manufacturer. So if they can slip in a cheaper glue or bolt or whatever it takes to manufacture that part they will. So when the part fails GM, Ford, or what ever the make is has to figure out if it was a design flaw or manufacturing issue and did the supplier make the part like it was origanaly desinged.
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Old 10-08-2012, 01:00 AM   #424
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I think their vendor cheaped out on the glue! When it gets hot the glue releases gases that are then trapped between the Pleather resulting in the bubbles. This is the problem with todays cars. Most of the parts are made by outside vendors so when it goes into production its quality is up to the vendor to maintain and not the car manufacturer. So if they can slip in a cheaper glue or bolt or whatever it takes to manufacture that part they will. So when the part fails GM, Ford, or what ever the make is has to figure out if it was a design flaw or manufacturing issue and did the supplier make the part like it was origanaly desinged.
Yah i was told by my service manager that gm told him it was an adhesive problem.
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