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Old 04-12-2012, 08:28 AM   #1
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Enough with the look at my latest cosmetic upgrade pictures! 24 hours after the first Boss was delivered we had a 1/4 number. The next couole of day a half dozen Dyno reports and some feedback from track experience. I'm here as a fan of the engineering behind this car. So enough look at my pretty upgrade threads and more track videos and reports please. At this rate my upcoming ZL1 ride this weekend will be the first delivered track report. We can't have that can we?
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I think the Ford crowd already knows it runs 12 flat, doesn't have 650hp and will out run any mustang on a road course.
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:55 AM   #3
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I think the Ford crowd already knows it runs 12 flat, doesn't have 650hp and will out run any mustang on a road course.
12s flat? Talk about a conservative statement. This car w/ its TCM and its superior counter magnetic suspension will run mid to high 11s. This car was build to live in TRACKS! Oh my perfect God, Im just a mortal, but, GM is on TOP Archangel Gabriel style. There's a reason why Ford hasn't showed their mighty 13 GT500 SVT PERF. numbers. They're scared AND w/ a reason.

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Old 04-12-2012, 10:14 AM   #4
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12s flat? Talk about a conservative statement. This car w/ its TCM and its superior counter magnetic suspension will run mid to high 11s. This car was build to live in TRACKS! Oh my perfect God, Im just a mortal, but, GM is on TOP Archangel Gabriel style. There's a reason why Ford hasn't showed their mighty 13 GT500 SVT PERF. numbers. They're scared AND w/ a reason.

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Yeah, yeah so much talk. This car turns mere mortals into the Stig. Let's see some proof.
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:26 AM   #5
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:28 AM   #6
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12s flat? Talk about a conservative statement. This car w/ its TCM and its superior counter magnetic suspension will run mid to high 11s. This car was build to live in TRACKS! Oh my perfect God, Im just a mortal, but, GM is on TOP Archangel Gabriel style. There's a reason why Ford hasn't showed their mighty 13 GT500 SVT PERF. numbers. They're scared AND w/ a reason.

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Old 04-12-2012, 10:29 AM   #7
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btw..when entering the data into a 1/4 mile calculator, It calculates 11.59 as the time in the quarter, so This would usually indicate a best possible scenario.
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:37 AM   #10
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btw..when entering the data into a 1/4 mile calculator, It calculates 11.59 as the time in the quarter, so This would usually indicate a best possible scenario.
^ BINGO. That shows the real capability of the car.
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Sims. Calculations. Pah! Let's see some rubber on your rear quarter panels and video proof of results. GoPro cameras, iPhones and Larry's Laptimers for all.
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:48 AM   #12
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Yes, its a sim, but I don't have my car yet so its as close as one can get without just takin a random guess at it.
Seems reasonable, but we will see in good time I guess. Maybe people are still doing break in ?
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Enough with the look at my latest cosmetic upgrade pictures! 24 hours after the first Boss was delivered we had a 1/4 number. The next couole of day a half dozen Dyno reports and some feedback from track experience. I'm here as a fan of the engineering behind this car. So enough look at my pretty upgrade threads and more track videos and reports please. At this rate my upcoming ZL1 ride this weekend will be the first delivered track report. We can't have that can we?
what this tells me is mustang guys don't care about break in periods. and so far all the owners that have received theirs on this forum do. at least that's my take on this.


oh and what's good about a 1/4 number? what's good about 330'? lol I crack myself up.
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Has anyone attempted to plug their car into the real 1/4 mile simulator yet? to much bench racing lately...
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what this tells me is mustang guys don't care about break in periods. and so far all the owners that have received theirs on this forum do. at least that's my take on this.


oh and what's good about a 1/4 number? what's good about 330'? lol I crack myself up.
first off, break in periods are just excuses. Most of these motors are ran for HOURS AND HOURS before even put into a car. So what is another 9 hours at 70 mph going to help you. Builders take cars, mod them from top to bottom and immediately after starting them up put them on a dyno.

The real reason for 1/4 mile numbers is to provide real world HP figures. trap speeds/ET's do not lie and dyno's can be calibrated to say anything. I can make an SS camaro in stock form say 518 whp if I wanted.
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Wow.....I think there's an awful lot of denial and wishful thinking going on here

I REALLY hope I'm wrong, but honestly, I think on street tires we'll be LUCKY to see sub 12's with very high 11's being EXTREMELY rare (if at all). I still have a bad suspicion that the hold was due to a drivetrain durability issue that was "fixed" by programming in more torque management. And if that's the case, we actually will have a 12.4-12.5 second car.

Like I said, I REALLY do hope I'm wrong on all of the above and am looking forward to seeing some "real" 1/4 mile times from production cars......hopefully I'll be surprised.
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first off, break in periods are just excuses. Most of these motors are ran for HOURS AND HOURS before even put into a car. So what is another 9 hours at 70 mph going to help you. Builders take cars, mod them from top to bottom and immediately after starting them up put them on a dyno.

The real reason for 1/4 mile numbers is to provide real world HP figures. trap speeds/ET's do not lie and dyno's can be calibrated to say anything. I can make an SS camaro in stock form say 518 whp if I wanted.
This. Break-in periods are less for the engine than other parts of the drivetrain. In truth, they are really just a way for the manufacturer to reduce the number of warranty claims on a new car. It's like this, if something were to go wrong with the car and you did not follow the recommended break-in procedure, they could, technically, refuse to honor the warranty.

Now, I ask you this, how many of you who have not followed the recommended break-in procedure ever had issues? I break in cars the way my dad taught me. You break them in using the same manner you intend to use the product. I have had no less than 5 new performance cars in the 10 years, and I never followed the "recommended" break-in procedure with any of them and had zero issues with any of them as a result. None, nada, nichts.

Heck, I took my 2001 Camaro SS to the dragstrip two days and 45 miles after buying it. Drove it 28k miles before I sold it and never encountered one issue from it's non-recommended break-in.

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Wow.....I think there's an awful lot of denial and wishful thinking going on here

I REALLY hope I'm wrong, but honestly, I think on street tires we'll be LUCKY to see sub 12's with very high 11's being EXTREMELY rare (if at all). I still have a bad suspicion that the hold was due to a drivetrain durability issue that was "fixed" by programming in more torque management. And if that's the case, we actually will have a 12.4-12.5 second car.

Like I said, I REALLY do hope I'm wrong on all of the above and am looking forward to seeing some "real" 1/4 mile times from production cars......hopefully I'll be surprised.
I will disagree. I think we will see more than one 12-flat or sub-11 second time from a stock ZL1 on the factory tires. Mid 11's, nah. That being said, I think we will see more low-12's from them than anything simply because most people buying these cars likely don't have any experience with a car making this kind of power at the dragstrip. Like we saw 13 second GT500 runs, we will see plenty of 13 second ZL1 runs.

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