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Old 04-12-2012, 09:41 AM   #1
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Which backing plate and pads?

Just bought my first PC and need to order some pads and a backing plate. I keep seeing either 5" or 6" plates and I am unsure what I need to use.

Looking on Autogeek since I have a credit with them that I need to use up.

Do I need a 6" plate and 7.5" pads?

Do I need a 5" plate and 6" pads?
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:48 AM   #2
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Just bought my first PC and need to order some pads and a backing plate. I keep seeing either 5" or 6" plates and I am unsure what I need to use.

Looking on Autogeek since I have a credit with them that I need to use up.

Do I need a 6" plate and 7.5" pads?

Do I need a 5" plate and 6" pads?
A PC is going to generate more polishing power (which will save you time) by using a smaller diameter pad.

I would go with 5.5 inch pads and a 5 inch backing plate. You could go even smaller (down to 4 inches) but then you loose some trade off in surface area, so you might end up taking longer to do an area. The machine will also 'wobble' a little more with a smaller pad. For most polishing 5.5 inch pads give you the best possible results.
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:01 AM   #3
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Nutro, have you decided on who's products you are going to use?? If it were me, I would ask them what works the best for their product, and in some cases, they may have backing plates and pads made of specific materials designed for their product.
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Old 04-26-2012, 02:57 PM   #4
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Ok so I received an order from Autopia with my Black fire and Meguiar's products now I just need to order the pads. Here is what I have in my cart for the (6) pad deal:

Pad 1: Orange
Pad 2: Orange
Pad 3: White
Pad 4: White
Pad 5: Red
Pad 6: Red

Does this look correct?
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FWIW - I've always subscribed to the theory of stocking heavier on pads for fine polishing than anything else.

Waxing/glazing pads see very little abuse so they require less frequent replacment.

Heavier polishing pads shouldn't be needed too often if you're doing a good job of upkeep and swirl prevention.

So the pad that most commonly gets worked is my white pads... those are the ones I'm using for light touchup most frequently.

Take it for what its worth.
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Old 04-26-2012, 04:32 PM   #6
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Ok so I received an order from Autopia with my Black fire and Meguiar's products now I just need to order the pads. Here is what I have in my cart for the (6) pad deal:

Pad 1: Orange
Pad 2: Orange
Pad 3: White
Pad 4: White
Pad 5: Red
Pad 6: Red

Does this look correct?
Looks good from what you wrote, are these CCS or Smart Pads?
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Old 04-26-2012, 04:36 PM   #7
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Also if your putting on your LSP by hand you can skip the Red pads and stock up on Black pads.
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Old 04-26-2012, 04:36 PM   #8
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Yep, these are CCS pads.

I was thinking of using the white pads for a cutting (on my 2003 GMC truck) followed by the white pad.

On my Camaro, I was looking at just using the white pads for the light cutting and swirl remover then the red pad for the sealer or glaze?

Does that seem correct?

I could always apply the sealer or glaze by hand if needed.
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Apply your LSP by hand and stock up on some Black pads for your final polishing.
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Old 04-26-2012, 04:43 PM   #10
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Yellow Cutting 5.5 inch Foam Pad - Use this pad to apply compounds or polishes to remove severe oxidation, swirls, and scratches. It is the most aggressive and should only be used on oxidized and older finishes. Always follow this pad with an orange or white pad and a fine polish to refine the paint until it is smooth.
Orange Cutting 5.5 inch Foam Pad - Firm, high density foam for scratch and defect removal. Use this pad with polishes and swirl removers. It’s an all around pad that will work on most light to moderate imperfections.
White Polishing 5.5 inch Foam Pad - Less dense foam formula for the application of waxes, micro-fine polishes and sealants. This pad has very light cutting power so its perfect for pre-wax cleaners.
Green Polishing/Finishing 5.5 inch Foam Pad - Use this foam to apply one-step cleaner waxes. It is a balance of polishing and finishing that is perfect for all-in-one product application.
Gray Finishing 5.5 inch Foam Pad - Composition is firm enough to withstand added pressure during final finishing to remove buffer swirls. It has no cut and will apply thin, even coats of waxes, sealants, and glazes.
Blue Finessing 5.5 inch Foam Pad – Flat pad has soft composition for applying glaze, finishing polish, sealants, and liquid waxes. Flat pad provides full contact with paint surface to minimize the pressure applied by the user.
Red Ultrasoft Wax/Sealant 5.5 inch Foam Pad - This soft, imported foam is ideal for applying the final coat of wax or sealant. The foam works especially well when applying liquid waxes or sealants because it is firm enough to keep the majority of the product on the paint, rather than soaking it up. The red foam has no cut or cleaning ability.


Go with a few of the Black/Gray Pads IMO.
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Old 04-26-2012, 04:47 PM   #11
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Apply your LSP by hand and stock up on some Black pads for your final polishing.
Ok so let me make sure I have this right:

Orange or white pad with Meguir's 105 on my older paint ('03 GMC) since it has some swirl marks and such after many years of never being waxed/polished etc

White pad with Meguir's 105 on the Camaro (not many scratches at all) followed by a white pad with Megs 205? Or GREY pad with 205?

Blackfire Wet Diamond sealer by hand or use the GREY pad for the sealant

Carnuba by hand
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:06 PM   #12
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Ok so let me make sure I have this right:

Orange or white pad with Meguir's 105 on my older paint ('03 GMC) since it has some swirl marks and such after many years of never being waxed/polished etc

White pad with Meguir's 105 on the Camaro (not many scratches at all) followed by a white pad with Megs 205? Or GREY pad with 205?

Blackfire Wet Diamond sealer by hand or use the GREY pad for the sealant

Carnuba by hand
I haven't used those pads specifically, but I would assume based on reading that you'd want to use the Grey pad with the 205, and then a blue one, or by hand for the sealant.
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:09 PM   #13
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Ok so let me make sure I have this right:

Orange or white pad with Meguir's 105 on my older paint ('03 GMC) since it has some swirl marks and such after many years of never being waxed/polished etc

White pad with Meguir's 105 on the Camaro (not many scratches at all) followed by a white pad with Megs 205? Or GREY pad with 205?

Blackfire Wet Diamond sealer by hand or use the GREY pad for the sealant

Carnuba by hand

Orange with M105 for compounding

White with M205 for polishing

Black with M205 for final polishing

BFWD or any LSP by hand
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Ok so let me make sure I have this right:

Orange or white pad with Meguir's 105 on my older paint ('03 GMC) since it has some swirl marks and such after many years of never being waxed/polished etc

White pad with Meguir's 105 on the Camaro (not many scratches at all) followed by a white pad with Megs 205? Or GREY pad with 205?

Blackfire Wet Diamond sealer by hand or use the GREY pad for the sealant

Carnuba by hand
M105 is an amazing product. You could use it with an orange pad for increased cutting action or with a white pad for a more polishing action. So that is spot on.

M205 is a finishing polish that has a little cut. It could produce a better finish with a gray pad, although a lot of times a white pad (on a porter-cable style polisher) is going to finish equally as well.
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Old 04-26-2012, 08:25 PM   #15
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Ok so based on y'alls comments I should do the 6 pack like this:

1 Orange
2 Grey
3 White

I really only need the orange for the white truck and I can use the rest on my Camaro and my fathers 08 Silverado.

I know I can always order more but to get me started I think that's the right, mixture.
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Ok so based on y'alls comments I should do the 6 pack like this:

1 Orange
2 Grey
3 White

I really only need the orange for the white truck and I can use the rest on my Camaro and my fathers 08 Silverado.

I know I can always order more but to get me started I think that's the right, mixture.
Anyone?
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Yes.

Thanks man. I ordered everything and added an extra grey pad.
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Remember that polishing is easy and just common sense.

Always work a small area at a time, only about 2 ft by 2 ft so you can concentrate on your work.
Move SLOW! some folks move the polisher way to fast over the paint and they don't allow the polisher to get the work done.
Use SLOW, overlapping motions. (Up and down then side to side)
Keep your pad level.
Never dry buff! You need to work the polish so you get results but stop when the polish goes clear, before it dries.
Keep the cord over your shoulder and away from your paint to avoid scratching your paint.
ALWAYS use the correct pad, polish and speed combinations.
When removing defects, use a little pressure. Not enough to bog down the machine, just enough so you can remove the defects.
Never lift the polisher off the paint while it is turned on.
Happy detailing!
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Thanks man. I ordered everything and added an extra grey pad.
I wish I would have seen this earlier. I would always recommend more of the heavy polishing pads. When you are heavy polishing you are removing more material and contaminating the pad at a much higher rate, thus the need to switch to a fresh pad more often. You should be fine, but I would have went 2, 2, and 2.
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Ok I have a question. Do you apply a final wax product after the 202 like a Meg. NXT or Gold Class wax?

Also, any special instructions on a black paint finish?
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