Why do not more people use the Scarallo wheels?

[njmike]

they look outdated too me

[SUX2BU]

Originally Posted by Fiftydriver

In fact I would pretty much guarantee you would never see any difference in performance with these over factory wheels or even other lightweight custom wheels except maybe with the V6 camaro.

I am pretty sure that at my performance level, I would not be able to tell the difference between these wheels and a set of lighter wheels????

Yes they are heavier then OEM but not by alot. Can not give you an exact number but when I put them on and handling the bare wheels, they do not feel much different at all.

Plus, they are a much wider wheel so they should weigh more.

I went with 18x8.5 fronts and 18x11 rears on my daily driver and lost 66 lbs! That weight reduction all by itself netted me about .364 seconds and 2.887 mph in the 1/4 mile.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162390
I also noticed better handling, braking and gas mileage.

Originally Posted by blazzin1

You're probably correct, in the sense that the weight difference between these wheels and the OEM wheels is minimal, and you probably wouldn't be able to tell much of a difference in the performance characteristics. But then again, they certainly aren't helping your performance either. I would say a majority of the folks on Camaro5 are after some sort of performance upgrade, not just a cosmetic upgrade without regard to some sort of performance enhancement. It's a matter of function over form in many cases. Don't get me wrong, I think those wheels look great!!! And I definitely would have considered them if they were lighter. In the extreme case of my Weld Wheels and M&H Tires, I dropped a whopping 86 pounds of rotating mass from the stock wheel/tire weight!!!! That's very significant!!! And yes, I can tell a very big difference, the car literally feels lighter and definitely more responsive to the throttle. Unfortunately, no, I don't have any magical formula for you that will equate rotating mass = HP. There are just too many variables to try to calculate it with any precision.

Lighter wheels were THE BEST mod I have done.

Originally Posted by Fiftydriver

Exactly what about them looks cheap?

The rounded edges Try finding some nice high end wheels that have rounded edges, most have sharp machined edges), the convex shape, the blah color, the center cap that also resembles the obligatory ricer GT R badge.

Originally Posted by Fiftydriver

that is alot of weight reduction. If I were looking for shear performance I can see your point

By the way, looking at your signature details, how did you get that big of a tire in your rear end or did you do some clearance work? My 315s give me around 3/8" clearance and thats it.

Also curious what your car is putting down as far as HP and torque numbers?

I fit 335/30 on the back of my car with no mods.

Originally Posted by Fiftydriver

Other then the read on the center cap, I have no idea how you can say these wheels look anything like the Scarallo wheels other then being 5 spoke design, other then that they have nothing in common. I wanted to keep the 5 spoke design of the original SS wheels beause I like that look much better then the thin, spider-web design of many of the newer looking wheel designs.

To each their own, which is the whole point to customizing your ride, still, I have a hard time seeing how these posted wheels look anything like the Scarallos I have???

Those mustang wheels look much more like the factory SS wheels then the Scarallos in my opinion, again, other then red color on center cap and 5 spoke design, I see no comparision between the two.

Other than being a deep dish they look very similar to the Cobra R wheels. They even have the same dip/groove in each spoke.

[SUX2BU]

These replica Cobra R wheels even have the deep dish.

[ssmike]

I'll attest to the difference a couple pounds makes! My F14 wheels are wider and lighter than stock by about 4 lbs. It's amazing the difference it makes, just 4 lbs, the car is quicker and feels lighter! Reducing rotating mass is vital to a car's response!

I was seriously considering Scarrallo's but found these F14's for very close to the same price. I was able to go 275/315 tire combo because the wheels are 9.5"/10.5" and the tires were a perfect fit as is the offset of the wheels! Also, they're rotory forged but the Scarrallo's are cast.

My main concern when purchasing wheels was to make sure whatever I got did not exceed the weight of the stock wheels and I wanted the wider staggered fitment of 275/315 tires. So I decided against the Scarrallo's in favor of the F14's and I'm glad I did!

edit: I forgot to say that if performance is not an issue I do think the Scarrallo's look good! If you like the look and are happy then that's all that matters! The brushed aluminum looks great on RJT!

[PQ]

Why no pics from further away?

[PQ]

Originally Posted by ssmike

I'll attest to the difference a couple pounds makes! My F14 wheels are wider and lighter than stock by about 4 lbs. It's amazing the difference it makes, just 4 lbs, the car is quicker and feels lighter! Reducing rotating mass is vital to a car's response!

After the shitty and heavy Savini donks I too can attest to the lighter wheels.

OMG.............. it's like my car turned into a lighter Vette. BIG difference. I remember thinking the E-Brake must be on.

[Inferno2SS]

I like the stock wheels better as well.

[LSxJunkie]

Not a bad design......seeing as they ripped it off, name, center cap, and all (minus the rolled lip), from ROH Wheels from Australia. I've been in contact with ROH and they say it's a carbon copy of their discontinued wheel. I would know. I had a set on my 2006 GTO.

Originally Posted by michael.balaza@roh.com.au

Hi

We have stopped production of these wheels worldwide.


If anyone is still selling them they may be old stock or copies.


We have ROH cast into our wheels.


regards.
Michael

Michael Balaza Snr Sales Consultant.




Sheffield Street | Woodville North | SA 5012
PO Box 2466 | Regency Park | SA 5942

P +61 8 8468 4157 | F +61 8 8468 4101
E michael.balaza@roh.com.au | W www.rohwheels.com

Originally Posted by michael.balaza@roh.com.au

Copy Wheels !


Can't do much about them.


Still a nice design though.


All the best.


Michael Balaza Snr Sales Consultant.




Sheffield Street | Woodville North | SA 5012
PO Box 2466 | Regency Park | SA 5942

P +61 8 8468 4157 | F +61 8 8468 4101
E michael.balaza@roh.com.au | W www.rohwheels.com

Note what is cast into the wheel at 9 o'clock. Now look at the Scarallo Drift-Rs.



They even refer to their wheels as "Scarallo ROH Drift-R" on the website.

http://scarallomotorsportwheels.com/...=10&Itemid=164

A look at their history on their website, they acknowledge their past history with ROH Wheels, but do not indicate that they are now completely ripping off ROH's design and ROH refers to their wheels as "copies."


I don't know anything about the quality of these wheels, but the intellectual property issue seems so slimy that I don't ever want to do business with such a company.

[SIM Curly]

Uh oh interesting

[IndeedSS1]

I like the look. But as long as you like them, doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.

[puertoricanfont]

Originally Posted by IndeedSS1

I like the look. But as long as you like them, doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.

+1. Not my cup of tea but if it floats your boat who cares.

[PQ]

As long as the offsets work and you don't want to spend the outrageous money for light forged wheels then I say go for it. It will look great.

[Mud]

The Scarellos look nice and clean. Much better looking than 90% of the wheels out there now that are overstyled, overpriced, cluttered, and way too big.

[Nine Ball]

I wouldn't consider them copies of the Roh wheel. They are likely manufactured by the same company that used to produce Roh wheels. Scarallo used to be known as Group A, they were the primary importer of Roh and other Australian brand wheels. Likely, Roh decided to end the design and Scarallo bought the rights to them. This happens quite often in the cast wheel industry, and is why you see several wheels out there with nothing but a different centercap logo.

[SUX2BU]

Originally Posted by Nine Ball

I wouldn't consider them copies of the Roh wheel. They are likely manufactured by the same company that used to produce Roh wheels. Scarallo used to be known as Group A, they were the primary importer of Roh and other Australian brand wheels. Likely, Roh decided to end the design and Scarallo bought the rights to them. This happens quite often in the cast wheel industry, and is why you see several wheels out there with nothing but a different centercap logo.

I thought these kind of looked like ROH wheels that my friend used to have.

[F8WillW8]

I just bought a set. I wish they were lighter, but I like the look and really want (need) to run a wider tire. Some have stated that these wheels look "outdated"; maybe, but I'm in my mid-forties, so my taste is probably outdated too!

Anyway, I'll give them a try and see how it goes. Hopefully the wider tire will help the car hook better. Getting tired of unwanted tire spin all the time.

[Mr_Draco]

Wow those wheels look ugly in my opinion.

[Fiftydriver]

Originally Posted by midnighter

I like stocks better.

I like the stock wheels are well, just wanted 315s on the back which was the reason for new wheels.

[Fiftydriver]

Originally Posted by Mud

The Scarellos look nice and clean. Much better looking than 90% of the wheels out there now that are overstyled, overpriced, cluttered, and way too big.

I agree 100%.

[Fiftydriver]

Originally Posted by SUX2BU

I thought these kind of looked like ROH wheels that my friend used to have.

Your saying these look like the Scarallo wheels????? I have to go get my eyes checked on Monday because I see nothing that looks even remotely similiar to the Scarallo wheels and these you post?

I have a very hard time believe that the wheel weight made the difference in your performance numbers. Could it possibly be that your 18" wheel produced much better traction results which we all know they will, thats the reason for going to them!!! I would say better traction and putting better torque to the ground were the reasons for your numbers improvements over the wheel weight reduction.

When I put my Scarallos on I was at around 380-390 rwhp and felt no difference at all except other then the car hooked up better under hard launch. Rolling acceleration was no different, handling was a bit better with the larger 275s on front, car felt no lighter at all. Now when I got the 3.91 gears, that made a huge difference in making the car feel lighter and then again when I installed my SC. Both of those made huge differences in the feel of the cars weight.

What will make your car feel much lighter? Dramatically lower gears, CERTAINLY, adding 100-150-200 HP, CERTAINLY, dropping 50-60 lbs of wheel weight, I doubt it.

Not arguing that you got better numbers but I would bet that was because of better traction tires more then anything else.

Again, if you do not like these wheels appearance, no problem but some of these debating topics are hard to swallow.

[Intimidator]

Stock rims will be my winter wheels with Blizzaks!

Originally Posted by Fiftydriver

I like the stock wheels are well, just wanted 315s on the back which was the reason for new wheels.

[Intimidator]

I agree also...My choices were down to the Beyern 5 chrome and these, I wanted a true 5 spoke with a lip and the largest summer tires possible without having to do surgery, use spacers, hub rings, etc....I also like 5 spokes that taper smaller from the hub to lip. I have the original ROH wheels on my GTO also!

Originally Posted by Fiftydriver

I agree 100%.

[Fiftydriver]

Originally Posted by Intimidator

Stock rims will be my winter wheels with Blizzaks!

My camaro sees nothing but the inside walls of my shop for the winter months!!! Graveled Montana roads are not the place for my camaro!!!

[Topher3134]

I wouldn't buy those wheels. I think their ugly and to answer the original question that's why people don't buy them. If I am going to spend money on wheels it will make a performance improvement to the car. These wheels really don't do that in my opinion. But hey to each their own. I saw a camaro with something like 34 inch wheels on it. Not my taste but not my car!

[Intimidator]

It's my daily driver...when the weather gets really bad the GMC 4x4 goes into service.

Originally Posted by Fiftydriver

My camaro sees nothing but the inside walls of my shop for the winter months!!! Graveled Montana roads are not the place for my camaro!!!