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Old 04-13-2012, 03:51 PM   #201
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It may be just ONE CAR, but if it was a 11.8 there sure wouldn't be anyone saying, "it's a freak, or it's just ONE CAR."

but, to be fair, I still see 12 flats from a manual in good weather/driver.


11.3 on street tires? Too much busch light buddy? I'm on my first, I'll let you know how the next ones go.
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:52 PM   #202
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Look at the dyno curves.....something is up with the Hen car. Like said before....knock retard or something else going on at 4500 rpm. That'll kill your trap times for sure.
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:53 PM   #203
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Interesting. It seems odd to me that their first test was reminiscent of the slow time one of the magazine's had that everyone said was an unseasoned driver.
I'm in NO WAY claiming Hennessey is or would do that. I have ZERO reason to believe they would.

Just trying to reconcile the times in my head.

I don't really have any problem with the times as a standard I guess. I think a seasoned driver could do a bit better.
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:54 PM   #204
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this thread reaction reminds me of the Hitler's ZL1/ GT500 reaction video.

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Old 04-13-2012, 03:55 PM   #205
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maybe this is the slow..er one.

Its got its work cut out for it. Waiting for some improved times.
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:56 PM   #206
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I honestly thought the stock numbers would be better than that.

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Old 04-13-2012, 04:02 PM   #207
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My ZL1 pulled 26,756hp on the dyno and ran the 1/4 in -4sec.
That just happened.
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:05 PM   #208
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Thing is those times are right in line with the ZL1 times from car and driver :(
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:06 PM   #209
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this thread reaction reminds me of the Hitler's ZL1/ GT500 reaction video.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ghlight=hitler

Hilarious Video.
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:07 PM   #210
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:07 PM   #211
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My ZL1 pulled 26,756hp on the dyno and ran the 1/4 in -4sec.
That just happened.
You'd need to be going at least 186,000Miles/sec to achieve that..

or Warp around the Sun
or Gate through a solar flare
or hit 88MPH in a DeLorean
or stumble upon a pocket of Anti-Time
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:08 PM   #212
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FTR, a novice driver in an SS was getting about 13.4s all day long.

About .3 seconds above the magazines times.

Not sure who is driving it but I'm not going to put any stock in these times.

Not long now we'll know what this car does on average.
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:14 PM   #213
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Lets go back a couple years for ya. 11.95 at 120 mph on stock tire and 11.59 on drag rubber for an "old" iron block 2010 GT500.
A 12.5 is embarrassing for the ZL1 considering all the hype. But in reality any car that runs a 12.5 is pretty darn quick!!

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...t/viewall.html
Evan Smith did 12' flat on a 2011 GT500 on stock tires (same tires as the ZL1 wears now)
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:23 PM   #214
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We saw the same problem on our two cars, until we drained and re-filled with "known" 93 oct gas. This car will do better next week!

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Agreed. There should be no more than a 20-25 rwhp difference between the manual and 6-speed. At least that is the difference we see on CTS-V's.
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:25 PM   #215
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My ZL1 pulled 26,756hp on the dyno and ran the 1/4 in -4sec.
That just happened.

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Old 04-13-2012, 04:29 PM   #217
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Agreed. There should be no more than a 20-25 rwhp difference between the manual and 6-speed. At least that is the difference we see on CTS-V's.
You're right John, and once again thanks for sharing your data with the community. Better times next week sir!

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Old 04-13-2012, 04:35 PM   #218
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It may be just ONE CAR, but if it was a 11.8 there sure wouldn't be anyone saying, "it's a freak, or it's just ONE CAR."

but, to be fair, I still see 12 flats from a manual in good weather/driver.


11.3 on street tires? Too much busch light buddy? I'm on my first, I'll let you know how the next ones go.
I agree with this post. anything other than the 12.0 GM states and someone will slam it ha ha. 12.5 is slow. 11.5 freak or ringer will be thrown around.

11.3's are not going to happen. the car is too heavy. 11.3's on DR would be a great time for the wieght of this car. Everybody forgets this car shoujld not really be faster than the current GT500fact it is heavier. Everybody is just hoping it is.

I feel like if they correct the 50lb loss of tourqe at 4500rmps those time will drop for sure. on a dyno that only shows once in the quarter mile that hits ever gear. If that dyno sheet is a reflection of how that car is running currently under load something is up.
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:36 PM   #219
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The original ZL1 in 1969 was an RPO for an engine, which was used in Can Am racing that was available in the Corvette and that was included with the 9560 COPO Camaro package.

The original ZL1 was not a vehicle trim level designation as the ZL1 is today. In 1969 when one referred to a ZL1, one was referring to an engine and not a vehicle model that was named a ZL1. However, in 1969 the Z28, of course, was a vehicle trim level name.
Thanks for setting me straight. Lol
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:39 PM   #221
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I thought there was a journalist that ran a 12. flat in a manual in mode 5....
and the auto is suppose to be quicker...
Maybe the break in has something to do
with this...


Damn doubters.....

You guy's need to stop raining on my parade....makin me not want this little mouse
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So was looking at the 2013 GT500 and noticed the times are almost right at the ZR1 corvette's times, to beat the mustang GM would literally have to beat their flagship sports car at half the price. Thinking that maybe GM is purposely holding back the camaro.
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:55 PM   #224
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Evan Smith did 12' flat on a 2011 GT500 on stock tires (same tires as the ZL1 wears now)
But the ZL1 has 305's and not 285's
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First production 1/4 mile times are pretty unimpressive.....but I'll still with-hold judgement until I see a few more times. How much torque management is being seen between shifts?

I suspected that the QC hold was to address a drivetrain durability issue of some sort and that GM's "fix" was to program in more Torque Management to lessen the hit/shock on the drivetrain at initial take-off and between shifts. Their evasiveness as to what caused the hold added to my suspiscions and these initial times only serves to reinforce that (to me at least).

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...9&postcount=16

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...1&postcount=16


But I won't say "I told you so"....yet!

Holey conspiracy therory......I sure hope you are wrong!!!
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