NEW ERA PERFORMANCE | OTR - "Over The Radiator" 6.2L Camaro Cold Air Intake System!

[He11bent]

Can I have a status update please?

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Originally Posted by He11bent

Can I have a status update please?

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[He11bent]

Got it and installed. I've got to say it...wow!!! That's a huge improvement! I had to buy the stronger MAF, but was definately worth it. Thanks

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[SSGT OF MARINES]

Originally Posted by He11bent

Got it and installed. I've got to say it...wow!!! That's a huge improvement! I had to buy the stronger MAF, but was definately worth it. Thanks

I just want to know if you put the metal shield on or left it off . The instructions say leave it off for legal drag racing purposes .

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Originally Posted by He11bent

Got it and installed. I've got to say it...wow!!! That's a huge improvement! I had to buy the stronger MAF, but was definately worth it. Thanks

Appreciate the Support!

[AuburnGrad93]

Hi, I saw where you posted that you had installed the system on two 2012 SS cars without issues in stock drivability, but I am very confused and wanted to see what your opinion/explanation is concerning the 2012 cars different ECM programing? Specifically, another vender has reported the following:

"There is no force feeding the 2012-2013 Camaro, No Ram-Air. If you are building a real ram air system that actually functions, meaning that it forces in air at a velocity beyond what is generated by vacuum then the car will “NEVER” drive correctly. It will buck every time you try to stay at cruising speeds of 30mph on up. You may say your ram air is fine, and it drives great. That’s because it’s not a ram air. It’s a cold air pretending to look like a ram air. It’s restrictive and relying on vacuum. It heat soaks tremendously at speeds below 45mph. That is because it’s under vacuum. Air is not being forced passed the MAF."

So can you possibly clear this up for me, or at least give your impressions/observations when the New Era is installed on a 2012 vehicle? If what they are saying is tue, how does the New Era work on a 2012 car??

[He11bent]

Originally Posted by SSGT OF MARINES

I just want to know if you put the metal shield on or left it off . The instructions say leave it off for legal drag racing purposes .

Sorry Sarge, I havent been back to this thread for a while. I installed the shield. I thought it helped keep water out during heavy rains.

[thepirate]

Any new info or reviews on the New Era??? I have a 2013 SS.

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Originally Posted by thepirate

Any new info or reviews on the New Era??? I have a 2013 SS.

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[atma]

Originally Posted by AuburnGrad93

Hi, I saw where you posted that you had installed the system on two 2012 SS cars without issues in stock drivability, but I am very confused and wanted to see what your opinion/explanation is concerning the 2012 cars different ECM programing? Specifically, another vender has reported the following:

"There is no force feeding the 2012-2013 Camaro, No Ram-Air. If you are building a real ram air system that actually functions, meaning that it forces in air at a velocity beyond what is generated by vacuum then the car will “NEVER” drive correctly. It will buck every time you try to stay at cruising speeds of 30mph on up. You may say your ram air is fine, and it drives great. That’s because it’s not a ram air. It’s a cold air pretending to look like a ram air. It’s restrictive and relying on vacuum. It heat soaks tremendously at speeds below 45mph. That is because it’s under vacuum. Air is not being forced passed the MAF."

So can you possibly clear this up for me, or at least give your impressions/observations when the New Era is installed on a 2012 vehicle? If what they are saying is tue, how does the New Era work on a 2012 car??

curious about this as well.

[AuburnGrad93]

Anyone else have any experience to share with a 2012-13 car with the New Era??

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Originally Posted by AuburnGrad93

Hi, I saw where you posted that you had installed the system on two 2012 SS cars without issues in stock drivability, but I am very confused and wanted to see what your opinion/explanation is concerning the 2012 cars different ECM programing? Specifically, another vender has reported the following:

"There is no force feeding the 2012-2013 Camaro, No Ram-Air. If you are building a real ram air system that actually functions, meaning that it forces in air at a velocity beyond what is generated by vacuum then the car will “NEVER” drive correctly. It will buck every time you try to stay at cruising speeds of 30mph on up. You may say your ram air is fine, and it drives great. That’s because it’s not a ram air. It’s a cold air pretending to look like a ram air. It’s restrictive and relying on vacuum. It heat soaks tremendously at speeds below 45mph. That is because it’s under vacuum. Air is not being forced passed the MAF."

So can you possibly clear this up for me, or at least give your impressions/observations when the New Era is installed on a 2012 vehicle? If what they are saying is tue, how does the New Era work on a 2012 car??

You are correct this system is not a real ram air, and this is why New Era has the shield with the kit as a restrictor/protector, because at highway speeds the air was almost building pressure in the intake before the throttle body causing bucking while cruising, which is why we say to take it out at the track only. However, this is the case on all model year Camaro SS's, not just 2012-13. The New Era system does not heat soak below 45 mph at all, it will only heat soak at a stand still similar to most intakes.

[atma]

Originally Posted by AutoAgenda

You are correct this system is not a real ram air, and this is why New Era has the shield with the kit as a restrictor/protector, because at highway speeds the air was almost building pressure in the intake before the throttle body causing bucking while cruising, which is why we say to take it out at the track only. However, this is the case on all model year Camaro SS's, not just 2012-13. The New Era system does not heat soak below 45 mph at all, it will only heat soak at a stand still similar to most intakes.

when you say take it out, you are referring to the restrictor, correct? so with the protector in, normal driving conditions should be acheived, whereas the removal of the protector will optimize your air intake for the drag strip? just trying to make sure I understand, as I believe I will be ordering one of these very soon.

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Originally Posted by atma

when you say take it out, you are referring to the restrictor, correct? so with the protector in, normal driving conditions should be acheived, whereas the removal of the protector will optimize your air intake for the drag strip? just trying to make sure I understand, as I believe I will be ordering one of these very soon.

Correct

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by AutoAgenda

You are correct this system is not a real ram air, and this is why New Era has the shield with the kit as a restrictor/protector, because at highway speeds the air was almost building pressure in the intake before the throttle body causing bucking while cruising, which is why we say to take it out at the track only. However, this is the case on all model year Camaro SS's, not just 2012-13. The New Era system does not heat soak below 45 mph at all, it will only heat soak at a stand still similar to most intakes.

Well if anything this finally is another pro party corroborating some of what Vararam has been saying. Now where's the 2012 Vararam kit so that we can do a comparison? Did they just abandon it?

It's coming up on Spring and I plan on pulling the trigger on an intake here sooner than later...

[atma]

Originally Posted by IMJ

Well if anything this finally is another pro party corroborating some of what Vararam has been saying. Now where's the 2012 Vararam kit so that we can do a comparison? Did they just abandon it?

It's coming up on Spring and I plan on pulling the trigger on an intake here sooner than later...

you know the Vararam for the 2012 will not be an OTR style, right?

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by atma

you know the Vararam for the 2012 will not be an OTR style, right?

Ya, pretty aware of that. But here's the thing... now it's down to numerical gains. There's no point in sweating OTR if the effects of true ram air are negated so that it's just another intake. At this point, the only obvious measure for the New Era is that the intake doesn't ask the air to make any turns before entering the plenum. So basically, without another true ram air kit for the twelves being available, I'm shopping for real gains.

But what's still up for debate for me is how this can't be tuned out from the '12s allowing for ram air. I'm still having a real hard time grasping this from the minimal information available.

[atma]

Originally Posted by IMJ

Ya, pretty aware of that. But here's the thing... now it's down to numerical gains. There's no point in sweating OTR if the effects of true ram air are negated so that it's just another intake. At this point, the only obvious measure for the New Era is that the intake doesn't ask the air to make any turns before entering the plenum. So basically, without another true ram air kit for the twelves being available, I'm shopping for real gains.

But what's still up for debate for me is how this can't be tuned out from the '12s allowing for ram air. I'm still having a real hard time grasping this from the minimal information available.

OK, didn't know if you were keeping up on this whole thing. I have the same questions as you, but not sure I understand the whole process enough to understand even if someone gave me a full and honest explanation. It does seem odd that Vararam hasn't made a peep basically since we saw their prototype at C5FestIII. Perhaps Maryland Speed k nows something (they were the ones displaying the prototype, i believe).

[air1kdf]

Originally Posted by AuburnGrad93

Hi, I saw where you posted that you had installed the system on two 2012 SS cars without issues in stock drivability, but I am very confused and wanted to see what your opinion/explanation is concerning the 2012 cars different ECM programing? Specifically, another vender has reported the following:

"There is no force feeding the 2012-2013 Camaro, No Ram-Air. If you are building a real ram air system that actually functions, meaning that it forces in air at a velocity beyond what is generated by vacuum then the car will “NEVER” drive correctly. It will buck every time you try to stay at cruising speeds of 30mph on up. You may say your ram air is fine, and it drives great. That’s because it’s not a ram air. It’s a cold air pretending to look like a ram air. It’s restrictive and relying on vacuum. It heat soaks tremendously at speeds below 45mph. That is because it’s under vacuum. Air is not being forced passed the MAF."

So can you possibly clear this up for me, or at least give your impressions/observations when the New Era is installed on a 2012 vehicle? If what they are saying is tue, how does the New Era work on a 2012 car??

What a load of crap. So some forced inductions drive like crap? Heat soak under 45mph because of vacuum. BS. Pressure causes heat, not vacuum. But there is no heat because the engine consumes so much air, even at idle. Just feel a metal intake, and it will be stone cold. Material has little to do with heat soak. At least on a Lightning where they tested the crap out of materials. It was unmeasurable between all material tested. Is the camaro different? I doubt it. Show some proof.

Now for some tuning 101. A good tune doesn't start at WOT. It starts at the MAF. If your engine doesn't know how much air it is injesting, it will run less than ideal. My guess is that a camaro with this intake will run much better with a tune. Just saying. It should also be able to learn over time without a tune though.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by atma

It does seem odd that Vararam hasn't made a peep basically since we saw their prototype at C5FestIII.

Ya, and they haven't responded to PM inquiries about the status. I'm almost wondering if they've abandoned the 2012+ kit because the "cone with a pipe proto" doesn't fit their business model or something.

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[veyito_169]

Just ordered mine