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Old 05-07-2012, 02:22 PM   #256
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got a few good pulls on the highway this morning. like jay said, the difference isn't the same as with installing the 25mm insulator.

monitoring KR and running 93 Octane, KR didn't kick in till 5250rpm and pulled 4-5 degrees of timing at WOT.

it seems to respond better to throttle input, meaning that the hesitation during initial acceleration or punching the peddle is deminishing.

the pull through the lower-mid RPM range is a bit stronger. this makes perfect sense because at higher RPM's the air isn't in the plenum long enough to equalize to atmospheric pressure. it flows straight to the cylinders...for the most part.

now to get on the dyno and see how the TQ curve is effected! and 0-60 times. current best time is 5.7sec before install.
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Old 05-07-2012, 02:36 PM   #257
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Old 05-07-2012, 07:37 PM   #258
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Love your painted IM & Plenum cover, looks great. Maybe some eyeballs in the Plenum cover bolt sockets area. lol
I’ve never seen a plenum give me the evil eye before LOL

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Here is my impression on the 12mm plenum spacer.

I haven't had a chance to dyno the plenum spacer like I wanted to so I can't say how much gain the plenum spacer offer, but going off my butt dyno, the "feel" is not the same as when I had first installed the 25mm insulator, but I wouldn't expect the same type of gain as the 25mm insulator because the effect of extra plenum volume is much different than what a intake manifold insulator does.

The main thing I noticed as I mentioned awhile back is that there's much less knock. Usually there would be about 3* of KR at part throttle from about 2k rpm and goes up to about 4*-5* by 4k rpm. After the plenum spacer there's 0 kr from 2k rpm and does not start to reappear until about 3500rpm but with much less kr. I was actually very surprised by this and vince had to actually recheck my tune to make sure that I was not running with kr desensitized adjustment Our LLT is very kr active naturally. 1* of less kr mean more stable power!

The torque seem to be much more flatter after the spacer too.

Another nice one steve
Thanks for the feedback Jay

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Off topic but i have to ask. Will you have a group buy for both 25 mm isolator and plenum spacer. I think alot of v6 members would jump on this.

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Not a group buy as such, but if you send us a PM I’m sure we can work something out

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i believe steve was offering a package deal when you purchase both. you should see how much he has to eat in cost just to ship from the land down under! it made my eyes hurt when i saw the charges

good luck
Yeah not cheap :( Clearly we don’t make a huge amount on these

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Thanks, now I'm going to do that in a car show on halloween. Will the arts and craft googly eyes work lol.
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Old 05-07-2012, 07:53 PM   #259
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got a few good pulls on the highway this morning. like jay said, the difference isn't the same as with installing the 25mm insulator.

monitoring KR and running 93 Octane, KR didn't kick in till 5250rpm and pulled 4-5 degrees of timing at WOT.

it seems to respond better to throttle input, meaning that the hesitation during initial acceleration or punching the peddle is deminishing.

the pull through the lower-mid RPM range is a bit stronger. this makes perfect sense because at higher RPM's the air isn't in the plenum long enough to equalize to atmospheric pressure. it flows straight to the cylinders...for the most part.

now to get on the dyno and see how the TQ curve is effected! and 0-60 times. current best time is 5.7sec before install.
Ah sweet, glad to hear more feedback about the product! Got to be happy with the reduction in knock retard
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Old 05-08-2012, 10:32 AM   #260
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PM price shipped to 68847 please! I have a Black Ico-lator so I'd need the one w/bolts...
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Old 05-08-2012, 03:16 PM   #261
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:34 PM   #263
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Done

On the pricing note, for those who aren't running a manifold insulator or who are looking at upgrading to a thicker one to better suit their driving requirements, we can definitely offer a better price given the savings on postage
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Old 05-09-2012, 05:35 PM   #264
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Got my stuff from Bmore today! I might just do the install tonight! LOL.
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Anybody know if those Plenum bolts on the side (not the ones that go through the manifold and all the way to the heads) are 18 lbs torque as well?
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Anybody know if those Plenum bolts on the side (not the ones that go through the manifold and all the way to the heads) are 18 lbs torque as well?
good question. for some reason, 14ftlb's sounds familiar. i could be wrong, so i'll do some digging around just to double check.
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Old 05-09-2012, 06:31 PM   #267
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good question. for some reason, 14ftlb's sounds familiar. i could be wrong, so i'll do some digging around just to double check.
Thanks....I am also still trying to figure WTH is going on with that inner gasket? Do I need to lay it on as well after putting those 4 adapters on?
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Old 05-09-2012, 06:45 PM   #268
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i used the gasket maker and secured the spacers to the plenum cover. then utilized the OEM gasket when putting the plenum cover back on between the spacers and the IM.
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i used the gasket maker and secured the spacers to the plenum cover. then utilized the OEM gasket when putting the plenum cover back on between the spacers and the IM.
Ok cool.....now if you guys can tell me what the torque specs are for the plenum bolts, that would be sweet

BTW.....I am not doing this till Saturday morning now.....forgot I had to take the damn back plenum bolt out I am in no mood to deal with that crap today LOL.
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didn't you get one of the ratcheting head wrenches? makes it 10x's easier. i can have it off in 5 minutes...the wrench is a life saver.
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didn't you get one of the ratcheting head wrenches? makes it 10x's easier. i can have it off in 5 minutes...the wrench is a life saver.
Yea I did.....still too much of a lazy slob for me to do this after a day at the office LOL. I will do it at the car show where I am displaying the car on Saturday morning. That should get me some looks!
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haha...nice. what car show are you headed to?

i suppose you could always hit up steve, but im sure after he reads this he'll respond with an answer too...either way.
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