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Old 04-16-2012, 07:00 PM   #201
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Wow I didn't realize this was a GT500 thread...?
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:06 PM   #202
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Good luck, wishing the best. Is this both ZL1s? or did you pick just one to test out?
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:16 PM   #203
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Good luck, wishing the best. Is this both ZL1s? or did you pick just one to test out?
The red car was pulley, intake, bigger ic coolant reservoir, race gas tune and tires. The yellow car has more

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Old 04-16-2012, 07:22 PM   #204
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Wow I didn't realize this was a GT500 thread...?
Get over it. The ZL1 and the GT500 will be spoken about in the same way as people talk about Sosa/McGwire. You are going to be hard pressed to speak of one without someone bringing up he other.
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:24 PM   #205
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The red car was pulley, intake, bigger ic coolant reservoir, race gas tune and tires. The yellow car has more

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So race that, and get into the 10s and the 9s LOL
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:26 PM   #206
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So race that, and get into the 10s and the 9s LOL
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:26 PM   #207
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You cannot use a dyno number and try to back into the Crank horsepower number. Manufacturers do not "underrate" cars tody.

I think the times are what should be expected.
No they just get over rated IE 2001 Cobras
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:44 PM   #208
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Get over it. The ZL1 and the GT500 will be spoken about in the same way as people talk about Sosa/McGwire. You are going to be hard pressed to speak of one without someone bringing up he other.
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:43 PM   #209
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No they just get over rated IE 2001 Cobras

we benefitted in '03/'04 after this debacle. my '04 dynoed 372rwhp bone stock to the paper filter. my '05 m6 GTO made 344rwhp with catback/intake--doesn't seem like the 400hp i was promised from GM, but i still absolutely loved the car.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:12 PM   #210
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we benefitted in '03/'04 after this debacle. my '04 dynoed 372rwhp bone stock to the paper filter. my '05 m6 GTO made 344rwhp with catback/intake--doesn't seem like the 400hp i was promised from GM, but i still absolutely loved the car.
That's because GM didn't lie to you about the GTO's horse power rating at the crank unlike Ford did and they got caught doing it, that's something to never forget. They had to "Save Face" somehow, and what better way than to underrate the supercharged cobra's hp rating to make it easier to forget their past false advertising and betrayal of consumer trust.

344 rwhp sounds about normal for a crank rating of 400 hp, of course that's really based on doing the dyno run with the proper correction factors.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:19 PM   #211
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It id VERY obvious the Ligenfelter guys know what they are doing. I really wish you guys would have done the stock track testing on stock tires and the track tie set up, but I know you guys were anxious to get faster times with a few mods.
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Old 04-17-2012, 04:41 AM   #212
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Old 04-17-2012, 04:54 AM   #213
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gt500 2013 is about 400-500lbs lighter with race seats (an dealer option on the car) straight line zl1 will get smoked, mustang still ulgy though :P lol. If zl1 will need about 50-100 more hp to haul that extra weight and beat the 2013 gt500, soo 2014 we can bite back maybe? Big advantage of camaro though is that huge engine bay, so might as well get a LSX454 in there

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Old 04-17-2012, 09:08 AM   #214
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I love hearing that little 1900 sing away If he could be more aggressive, I bet it would've been a little faster, too. This is a customer's car, so I totally understand
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Old 04-17-2012, 10:12 AM   #215
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Get over it. The ZL1 and the GT500 will be spoken about in the same way as people talk about Sosa/McGwire. You are going to be hard pressed to speak of one without someone bringing up he other.
It's the constant regurgitation of the SAME nonsense speculation that is OVERLY annoying!
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Old 04-17-2012, 10:59 AM   #216
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Old 04-18-2012, 02:14 PM   #217
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I wonder what a whipple 2.9L would do in a Zl1?? (Hint! Hint!)
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Old 04-18-2012, 02:20 PM   #219
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Did the yellow car have the same setup as the red one?
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Old 04-18-2012, 02:21 PM   #220
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Old 04-18-2012, 02:23 PM   #221
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Old 04-18-2012, 02:29 PM   #222
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Old 04-18-2012, 02:31 PM   #223
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Did the yellow car have the same setup as the red one?
No. Graham indicated it was even more enhanced that the red car. I don't think the specifics have been discussed/released yet.
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Old 04-18-2012, 02:33 PM   #224
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That is REALLY REALLY FAST!
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Old 04-18-2012, 02:33 PM   #225
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This Yeller car had a cam swap.
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