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Old 04-14-2012, 07:20 PM   #1
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Orange peel!?

Any way to fix the orange peel in our paint, it looks like absolute crap, 38 thousand dollar car and I get a crap paint job...... Not trying to start a "the value is really good for what you get" war but is there anyway to fix it?
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Old 04-14-2012, 07:23 PM   #2
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Car will have to be wet sanded. It isn't bad at all compared to most cars now. It shows up a lot more on black.
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Car will have to be wet sanded. It isn't bad at all compared to most cars now. It shows up a lot more on black.
wetsanding is overkill. A full detail with a PC and some Adam's products will be able to solve the problem.
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Old 04-14-2012, 07:33 PM   #5
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wetsanding is overkill. A full detail with a PC and some Adam's products will be able to solve the problem.
False sir, I detailed it and corrected with the PC no bueno.

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when you have peel, the only cure is to cut down the clear............
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Old 04-14-2012, 07:38 PM   #7
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when you have peel, the only cure is to cut down the clear............
Isnt the clear really thin

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False sir, I detailed it and corrected with the PC no bueno.

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OK. Though I'd pick up a PTM before you start wetsanding.
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Isnt the clear really thin

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the clear is bad n thin...i corrected mine wit a pc and adams shr n fmp

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wetsanding is overkill. A full detail with a PC and some Adam's products will be able to solve the problem.
There is no way to cut orange peel with a pc and anything Adams sales. You have to wet sand the car to get the orange peel out.
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im scared to wet sand it! I dont wanna sand into the paint.
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You need to take it to a good body shop. Don't attempt yourself.
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Old 04-15-2012, 08:43 AM   #14
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You should be very scared to Wet Sand a new Camaro (or any car). I don't know if I would even trust a bodyshop, most of their experience is on sanding fresh repaints, and generally they really don't do a good job at that.

Here is a 458 Ferrari that I wetsanded from the factory. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...81#post4808181

To do the job to the highest level is EXTREMELY time consuming and requires a TON of experience. You literally cannot loose focus at one point for the next 50-60 hours.
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Old 04-15-2012, 10:41 AM   #15
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I work at a body shop, I know how to wet sand and am confident in mh skills I was just worried about how thin the cc is on these cars and was searching for input.

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Most of the time a factory clear coat is going to be thinner than a repaint. Every panel is going to be different to. It would be best to check each panel with a meter before and during the process. I'll check my car and let you know. I don't have a problem letting my body shop wet sand my car but they are a good shop and good honest people that I've known my whole life. I would'nt worry about it either on a new car your going to have orange peel and the black gm's show it pretty good.

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Old 04-15-2012, 11:37 AM   #17
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Any way to fix the orange peel in our paint, it looks like absolute crap, 38 thousand dollar car and I get a crap paint job...... Not trying to start a "the value is really good for what you get" war but is there anyway to fix it?
Like the others have mentioned, sanding is the only way to correct, but I'd be hesitant to take paper to a factory paint job.

As far as the 'crap paint job' bit... I wouldn't get too hung up on it. ALL factory cars have orange peel. No factory out there is taking the time to sand the finish smooth. The time/added cost would inflate the price to a point that would be obscene on any production car.

I've detailed everything from Hondas to Ferraris... they all have orange peel to one degree or another, from what I've seen on all of GM's stuff its no better or worse than cars costing half the price or costing 10x the price. The lambo I recently knocked out had HORRIFIC orange peel on the rear panels and that guy spent 10x what you did on his car.

In a perfect world all cars would come off the line perfectly smooth, but so long as they're sprayed by robots and not sanded you just have to live with some level of imperfection. Unless you're going to respray the whole car and work towards building a competition ready show vehicle I say live with it. It only seems worse b/c you've had your nose up close to your car and are critical (as we all are) of your own car.... I promise you if you get that up close and personal with any other OEM paint job you'll see the same problems.

This picture was shot a few years ago... it was the door of my TBSS which was kept utterly flawless 100% of the time and it looks like a mirror here, but if you look at the edges of the garage or any straight line in the reflection you can see the peel. If you can keep a good shine/gloss on your car, keep it relatively defect free, the orange peel is just something you won't notice much unless you really look for it.

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Dylan a friend of mine detailed a new ferrari or lambo pretty sure he said Ferrari. He also said the paint was terriable for what the guy paid for the car.
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It's a pain and spendy but the best way to fix orange peel is to have the whole car wet sanded, re-clear coated, wet sanded again, and buffed out to get that mirror shine.
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A PC or any polisher for that matter cannot successfully remove orange peel. I mean, alright, theoretically yes, but you'd be polishing the spot with a heavy cut compound so many times that your arms would hurt. LOL
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It's a pain and spendy but the best way to fix orange peel is to have the whole car wet sanded, re-clear coated, wet sanded again, and buffed out to get that mirror shine.
This is correct. The best way.
By sanding you take off the gloss, and give the new clear something to adhere to. You can also smooth some of the roughness.
Then by reclearing you get new clearcoat thickness to safely sand on. Apply 3 coats of new clear. You will be able to remove all of your orange peel.

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In any case, I don't think it would be worth the time and effort. Paying a shop to sand, clear, sand again would be insane, and if you had that kind of change to drop in the first place, well let's be honest, you probably wouldn't be in a Camaro forum right now anyway.
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:46 PM   #24
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The Camaro clear coat is very thin. I would highly suggest against doing it with your "body shop" skills unless you are a true detailer and I don't mean the kind that takes a rotary with wool to a car and is when they finish they say, "Damn that car looks good." I have wetsanded spots on my car to fix deep scratches. Let's just say after taking a meter to one, I would never do it again. The chances of your getting the orange peel out of you factory clear is slim to none without burning through. The paint is so weird on our cars. It is very hard to correct in some spots, and very easy to mar. Let's just say that I've had bug impacts take off my clear coat. Not etching, but the actual impact actually chipped the clear.
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