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Old 07-29-2015, 08:00 AM   #1
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Disappointing day at the track

Ran my 2013 ZL1 Convertible M6 bone stock yesterday on the track for the first time since over a year. My best at this time was a 12.438 @ 115.4 mph with a 60" of 2.016.

Ran the car last night and I couldn't get it to hook. My best last night was a 12.57 with @ 60'' of 2.155. Average times were around 12.7-12.8.

I think I will not go back to the track again, since i figured in stock condition 12.438 is the max you can get out of a manual vert bone stock.

Or did anybody with a stock convertible M6 any better than this?
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Old 07-29-2015, 08:09 AM   #2
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Are you running stock tires? If you are, you should install some stickier tires like nittos or something similar, your 60 ft should come down and as well as your time
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Old 07-29-2015, 08:12 AM   #3
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I don't really know anyone with stock that has a better time than that.
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Old 07-29-2015, 08:15 AM   #4
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I don't really know anyone with stock that has a better time than that.


A stock ZL1 wont set the world on fire even though some may have track times that are a little better. That's why most owners start adding mods immediately.
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Old 07-29-2015, 08:15 AM   #5
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The only change I did was switching from the 305 Goodyears to the 315 Pilot Super Sport.
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Old 07-29-2015, 08:31 AM   #6
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Some Drag Radials will help alot
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Old 07-29-2015, 09:00 AM   #7
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Shouldn't be disappointing for stock, whats disappointing is running my best time of a 12.9 with a tuned ZL1 with a pulley and CAI on 93. My 60 fts were between 2.3-2.5 spinning all the way. Then getting beat by my friend in his stock CTSV with nothing but Drag MTs and a CAI. Now, I was running street tires and it was 101 at the track that day with about 100% humidity. Next time it should be A LOT different with my welds 17s with MTs coming. Not to mention I have done alot more upgrades since then.
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Old 07-29-2015, 09:02 AM   #8
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When I use to go to the track with my 02 I had 2 extra rims and i set those up with bfg street drag radials since that was my daily driver including winter, my stock set where z06 rims and all seasons tires, there was a major difference between the tires atleast once I learned to heat the bfgs up real well, I think you would really be surprised at the difference it would make and feel at the track
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Old 07-29-2015, 09:27 AM   #9
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I definitely will not change my wheels just for a track day. What disadvantage will I have on daily driving with those Nitto tires which i would put on the stock rim?
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Old 07-29-2015, 09:43 AM   #10
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Just a shorter tire life as it is a much softer compound.
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Old 07-29-2015, 09:48 AM   #11
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There's a guy on here that ran an 11.59 with a stock ZL1 A6 coupe.
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Old 07-29-2015, 12:19 PM   #12
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I definitely will not change my wheels just for a track day. What disadvantage will I have on daily driving with those Nitto tires which i would put on the stock rim?
Besides the initial cost of the extra rims, its only a 30min job to swap them and you would have the benefit of traction at the track and your regular tires when cruisin. Drag radials are not the best in rain.

No reason why my v6 should be beating some of the ZL1 times i see.
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Old 07-29-2015, 12:32 PM   #13
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Don't get discouraged, its all just another way to have fun with your car. For me, I enjoy going out and watching other cars run as well as the constant battle to improve your times. As others have said, better tires help a ton. You can always buy a set of 18 zo6 fronts and mount some DRs or if you don't want to change wheels a set of 20 DRs on stock rims will help a lot. When I bought my ZL1 2 years ago I was initially in the 12s but I got hooked and bit by bit added more power etc and first went into the 11s, 10s and now I'm in the 9s.
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Old 07-29-2015, 12:41 PM   #14
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You have the power it's just getting it to the ground, and that can be accomplished two ways tires or suspension work, and even if you don't do anything you still have a awesome car and a very capable car that's also just fun to cruise in with the top down
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Old 07-29-2015, 01:37 PM   #15
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2012 CTS-V coupe here (same LSA motor and weight). Stock with street tires was 12.2@118.5mph. Added CAI and drag radials in good air and run consistent 11.53@120.5mph.
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2012 CTS-V coupe here (same LSA motor and weight). Stock with street tires was 12.2@118.5mph. Added CAI and drag radials in good air and run consistent 11.53@120.5mph.
The DR helped you a lot, you had a lot of MPH for a 12.2 run
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The DR helped you a lot, you had a lot of MPH for a 12.2 run
Agreed. A spinning 2.15 60' will do that for yah. I know the car had an 11.49 in it, but I never had the stars align to make it all happen. I'm on to road course racing now so I've added weight to the car (rear diff cooler, APR front splitter) so any hopes of hitting that time are gone. 11.526 was my best.
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Old 07-29-2015, 11:57 PM   #18
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11.6's stock on drag radials....... Get drag radials and learn to launch.
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Old 07-30-2015, 04:59 PM   #19
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Practice, practice, practice. You can't get discouraged after a disappointing outing. Wait til the weather gets better, try stickier tires as others have said, you'll get those times down. Having a manual makes it more challenging, but more rewarding.
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