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Old 07-28-2014, 06:17 PM   #1
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2.50" NOWEEDS DUAL for CAMARO ZL1 ?

Has anyone put this on there ZL1 looking for PROS and CONS...
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Old 07-28-2014, 07:09 PM   #2
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I have had mine on for a month now - love it.
Only issue would be it does protrude a bit from the bottom of the car - becomes the lowest point.
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Old 07-28-2014, 07:11 PM   #3
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I have had mine on for a month now - love it.
Only issue would be it does protrude a bit from the bottom of the car - becomes the lowest point.
Any issues with speed bumps / humps?
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Old 07-28-2014, 07:16 PM   #4
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Has anyone put this on there ZL1 looking for PROS and CONS...
http://shop.noweeds.net/product.sc?p...&categoryId=14
Pros? More noise?
Cons? Money out of your wallet for basically the same thing the NPP already does?
JMO.
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Old 07-28-2014, 07:32 PM   #5
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Damn. I never realized how expensive those were !!
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Old 07-28-2014, 07:39 PM   #6
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Damn. I never realized how expensive those were !!
Which one?? The ZL1 or the No Weeds??
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Old 07-28-2014, 07:45 PM   #7
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Old 07-28-2014, 07:50 PM   #8
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J/K - No Weeds is definitely on my Mod List!
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Old 07-28-2014, 08:03 PM   #9
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Just note that the audio is from inside the car, sounds much more sinister from outside the car. Worst part is it does become the lowest part of the car. My car is already lowered so I have to pay even more attention to how I approach slopes otherwise I do not regret buying them.

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Only one I got from outside with the NoWeeds on and open but I also have headers and cat delete in this short clip.

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Old 07-28-2014, 10:28 PM   #10
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Pros? More noise?
Cons? Money out of your wallet for basically the same thing the NPP already does?
JMO.
white ZL1 - NPP Dual Mode exhaust and No Weeds are definitely NOT the same - not even close.
I have a set installed - that is how I know.
It's like night and day.
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Old 07-28-2014, 10:35 PM   #11
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I went with JBA catless mids and control my NPP with a DashLogic. It's pretty dang loud like that.
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Old 07-28-2014, 10:35 PM   #12
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Thank you for the videos ... How much extra weight do they add to your car ?
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Old 07-28-2014, 11:08 PM   #13
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NoWeeds Pros and Cons

So I have been meaning to post about Noweeds, and how they sound when your foot is not on the gas and the car is slowing.

So I installed Noweeds on my ZL in May, when there open and your in the gas the car sounds great. When I slow down in 1st or 2nd with them fully open there very Raspie, don't sound good to me. When there half way open I don't like the noise at all not what a ZL sounds like. I have tried with both fuse pull in and out. Doesn't make a difference. Does anyone else's Noweeds sound like this? Maybe mine is defective?

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Old 07-28-2014, 11:39 PM   #14
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ZL14FUN maybe compare it with someone, I don't believe that is normal. Also anyone has the ARH noweeds diverters on their site? What's the difference
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Old 07-29-2014, 12:41 AM   #15
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Has anyone put this on there ZL1 looking for PROS and CONS...
http://shop.noweeds.net/product.sc?p...&categoryId=14
I installed my cutouts near the rear right before my mufflers to diminish any kind of clearance issues underneath. I have a pic in my garage and I can take a couple more and post if your interested in my setup?
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Old 07-29-2014, 08:32 AM   #16
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I have had them on an SS and ZL1. Makes for a great exhaust note, especially if you have a cam.

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Old 07-29-2014, 09:22 AM   #17
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I had no-weeds installed late June at no-weeds shop. At idle with fuse pulled they are 6 decibals louder, at 3000 rpm they are 12 decibals louder! I will do more comparisons as time permits. I like the sound above 2200 rpm's and at 4000 plus WOW! I have an A-6 when in drive and i pass a car it shifts to 4th and peoples heads turn, the car actually has a slite vibration from the exhaust noise. [It feels good]. I thought the standard exhaust with fuse pulled was loud and now when you close the diverters its like a cadillac! Just some info on my no-weeds experience so far!
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Old 07-29-2014, 10:17 AM   #18
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Just note that the audio is from inside the car, sounds much more sinister from outside the car. Worst part is it does become the lowest part of the car. My car is already lowered so I have to pay even more attention to how I approach slopes otherwise I do not regret buying them.

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Only one I got from outside with the NoWeeds on and open but I also have headers and cat delete in this short clip.

you gotta tell me how your making the sweet vids. Would love to have all that info on vids I make.
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Old 07-29-2014, 10:36 AM   #19
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I have had mine on for a month now - love it.
Only issue would be it does protrude a bit from the bottom of the car - becomes the lowest point.
I have had mine on for almost a year, and I agree with ZL1-PA. I have destroyed one of the actuators due to the low clearance and bent up the pipe. Luckily, Steve at Noweeds was great to deal with and helped me get it all fixed. My car is lowered, and it only has happened on my inclined driveway. You will just need to be careful. I would not hesitate to recommend these cutouts or their customer service! Both are great!
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Old 07-29-2014, 12:10 PM   #20
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I went with HF cats and QTP cut outs, because they were half the price of the Noweeds. There is a little more work in installing them, but they worked out great and I haven't had any clearance problems with them.
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white ZL1 - NPP Dual Mode exhaust and No Weeds are definitely NOT the same - not even close.
I have a set installed - that is how I know.
It's like night and day.
I said basically.
The No-Weeds are cutouts that can be installed anywhere in the exhaust that they'll physically fit versus the NPP exhaust that basically is a bypass of the muffler....
If you're planning on making any power the cats have to eventually come off anyways, so at that point they are damn close to the same depending on where they are mounted.
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Old 07-29-2014, 02:38 PM   #22
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I said basically.
The No-Weeds are cutouts that can be installed anywhere in the exhaust that they'll physically fit versus the NPP exhaust that basically is a bypass of the muffler....
If you're planning on making any power the cats have to eventually come off anyways, so at that point they are damn close to the same depending on where they are mounted.
Not trying to argue with you, but having the NPP valve open, even without cats, sounds nothing like having open cutouts on the car. With cutouts full open, it is extremely loud. I can vibrate everything on the walls in my house and the car can be heard outside my neighborhood. With the NPP valves open and the cutouts closed, it is much quieter. To the point that you can barely hear the car idling when you are in the house and it definitely cannot be heard outside my neighborhood.

Since we are specifically talking about the Noweeds system, they install in a very specific location, so there isn't any variability to the mounting placement. It's the QTP cutouts that you can place anywhere along the exhaust path, but the install is more difficult due to the welding required. In my opinion, having heard both the QTP on my buddy's SS, and my Noweeds cutouts, I think the Noweeds system sounds better and cleaner. Both are loud.
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Old 07-29-2014, 04:20 PM   #23
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so 7HP increase and louder car for $1000 + installation.

I guess if you have money burning a hole in your pocket.

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Old 07-29-2014, 05:48 PM   #24
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I installed my cutouts near the rear right before my mufflers to diminish any kind of clearance issues underneath. I have a pic in my garage and I can take a couple more and post if your interested in my setup?
Please post the photos
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so 7HP increase and louder car for $1000 + installation.

I guess if you have money burning a hole in your pocket.

http://southpark.cc.com/full-episodes/s13e12-the-f-word
The Noweeds are $950. I installed mine myself in about 2 hours and it was actually quite simple.

My buddy has the QTP (about $400) and paid a shop about $400 to do the install. So $800 plus time to get to the shop and leave his car for a day. They are a very reputable performance shop and no other shop would touch it.

Not really a huge difference in price unless you are a skilled welder. Also, the $150 difference really isn't much when you compare the quality of the kits and the down time associated with having a shop weld in the QTP kit. The value of my time alone just about worth it.
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