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Old 06-07-2015, 05:14 PM   #1
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2016 ZL1 725HP FROM GM?

Just curious about this. Since the almighty Hellcat has been out and all of the attention it has had would you trade in your current ZL1 if GM offered a ZL1 with 725hp? I have not seen or heard of anyone on here that has traded their car in for a hellcat but if GM offered this 725hp package I know you would have to tie me down to keep me from trading mine in. Would this make you want one?

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Old 06-07-2015, 05:15 PM   #2
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there is no 2016 ZL1 coming out.
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Old 06-07-2015, 05:23 PM   #3
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There is no 2016 ZL1, and if there was it wouldn't have more power than 650.
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Very clever wording to get people to read your post. Lol
I would buy a 2016 with 700HP + no matter what they called it.
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Old 06-07-2015, 05:42 PM   #5
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What 725hp package? You just made it up.

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I have not seen or heard of anyone on here that has traded their car in for a hellcat but if GM offered this 725hp package I...
What does HP have to do with it?
If you want HP then you SHOULD go buy a Hellcat.
If you want a car with power and can still find its way around a track, keep your ZL1. Otherwise why would anyone trade their ZL1 in for a Hellcat.

Seems like a silly comparison.

Besides, we already know the new CTS-V will have 640hp Seen Here
So IF there were a Gen6 ZL1 it would not be too far off.
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Old 06-07-2015, 06:30 PM   #6
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The fact that camaro weighs over 500 pounds less means u dont need as much hp. Challenger pigcat definitely need all that power.
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Old 06-07-2015, 07:31 PM   #7
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honestly it is so easy to make 725 crank HP on this car taking the resale hit just for the "power" would be stupid to me.


I would not sell this car just for hp. there would have to be more coming to the table. It's why the hellcat is meaningless to me. It does not handle. It barely runs faster laps than a 1le or mustang get even though it has almost 300 more HP.


I don't see the 2017 or 18 when ever they release the camaro z?? getting anything other than the LT4.

the 8 speed auto car though would be a 10 second car most likely. the styling will would have to be tweaked more for me to buy one though. it is not doing it for me to date.
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Old 06-07-2015, 08:28 PM   #8
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honestly it is so easy to make 725 crank HP on this car taking the resale hit just for the "power" would be stupid to me.


I would not sell this car just for hp. there would have to be more coming to the table. It's why the hellcat is meaningless to me. It does not handle. It barely runs faster laps than a 1le or mustang get even though it has almost 300 more HP.


I don't see the 2017 or 18 when ever they release the camaro z?? getting anything other than the LT4.

the 8 speed auto car though would be a 10 second car most likely. the styling will would have to be tweaked more for me to buy one though. it is not doing it for me to date.
True, it wouldn't be a problem to get over 700 crank hp from the current gen Z, but not everyone wants to mod their cars. I, for one, would like to get as much hp as I can from the factory. I do agree though that a new gen camaro Z? with 640 hp, and an 8 speed auto would be 10 second capable. We'll see, only time will tell. All I know is, enjoy these fantastic times we're living in because as a car enthusiast it's hard to imagine it getting much better than this.
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Old 06-07-2015, 08:39 PM   #9
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Yeah a 200lb lighter ZL1 with 650hp from the factory would be awesome though on paper that still puts it as a lower performer than the GT500... Paper specs :/ Theres so much more to a car.
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Yeah a 200lb lighter ZL1 with 650hp from the factory would be awesome though on paper that still puts it as a lower performer than the GT500... Paper specs :/ Theres so much more to a car.
For now, there is no GT500 so I wouldn't worry about matching it's performance. From what I've seen, most GT500 owners can't handle the power that car puts out anyways. . I do understand that GM is concentrating more on the total package, but hp sells cars. I don't think most folks who pick up a magazine care about what the car ran around VIR or "the ring", at least I don't. The first page I turn to is how quick does it cover the 1/4 mile. I'm shallow that way. lol!! Don't get me wrong, I appreciate every time I drive my ZL1 just how well balanced the car is, but I do sometimes find myself wishing it had more power to offset its weight.
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Old 06-07-2015, 09:34 PM   #11
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The current ZL1 has so much potential that a gen6 would need to be extreme for it to be worth taking the depreciation hit. My plan since before I bought mine was to mod it to ~700ish HP as a summer car and buy a nicely optioned gen6 SS as a driver after they're out a few year and the deals surface. Muscular gen5 and refined gen6

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Old 06-07-2015, 09:55 PM   #12
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Old 06-07-2015, 10:34 PM   #13
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From what I have seen if you want to see on the upcoming zl1 or z28 watch the new ford mustang and figure gm will be around it in HP. The two companies seem to match each other on Hp increases.

As for trades not likely. Just not sure if I will switch laterally to a ZL1 I want to stroke my ls3 but in Comifornia and their smog rules not sure how reasonable it will be to pass smog. An LSA may be more reasonable to hit the HP numbers I want.
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Old 06-07-2015, 10:35 PM   #14
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You guys must not read very well! I said IF gm offered it. Before you all start jumping up and saying there wont be one in 2016 do you know for sure?
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Old 06-07-2015, 10:47 PM   #15
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This was just a question to talk about. I get tired of hearing about the hellcat from everyone who is local to me and just about every mag you pick up has something about it. I was just wondering how many would trade their ZL1 for a new one if GM offered it with 725hp? So it seems like everyone is thinking if it comes back it will be with 650hp? Is this enough then to make you trade? Simple question
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Old 06-07-2015, 10:59 PM   #16
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For now, there is no GT500 so I wouldn't worry about matching it's performance. From what I've seen, most GT500 owners can't handle the power that car puts out anyways. . I do understand that GM is concentrating more on the total package, but hp sells cars. I don't think most folks who pick up a magazine care about what the car ran around VIR or "the ring", at least I don't. The first page I turn to is how quick does it cover the 1/4 mile. I'm shallow that way. lol!! Don't get me wrong, I appreciate every time I drive my ZL1 just how well balanced the car is, but I do sometimes find myself wishing it had more power to offset its weight.
My last car was a 2013 Shelby GT500 and I loved it. I just loved the 2015 Camaro ZL1 I test drove 3 months ago even more

When it comes to 1/4 mile the GT500 takes the cake, even when compared to the Hellcat if you're willing to consider a little aftermarket money.

I totally get your need to jump to the 1/4 mile stats (I do too) but I'm also interested in having a car that handles and I think more and more people are also becoming aware that HP isn't everything, especially when you see cars like the GT-R or C6Z06 w/ 11s stock and 3/4ths the HP as the Hellcat.
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Old 06-07-2015, 11:00 PM   #17
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You guys must not read very well! I said IF gm offered it. Before you all start jumping up and saying there wont be one in 2016 do you know for sure?
Lol.....that's what happens in every thread. People are so fast to give opinions they don't even remember or understand what they are posting about.
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Lol.....that's what happens in every thread. People are so fast to give opinions they don't even remember or understand what they are posting about.
Amen brother!
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Heres what my crystal ball showed me; ZL1 Camaro 645hp, just to keep Z06 owner happy.

So are you getting one? I will if they make the package look a lot better than the stock 2016 SS right now.
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Old 06-08-2015, 12:08 AM   #20
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To me the new Gen 6 isn't about horsepower because the current ZL has proven to be able to dish out a whole bunch more HP with very little effort. What I want to see is how much better the platform is on the track. If the new Gen is way ahead of the current ZL on the track to the point with mods I can't catch one with my ZL then I'll look at an upgrade. If its close I'll just add some HP to the beast and lower it with the addition of a couple suspension mods and call it a day.

The new Gen 6 Camaro looks awesome and I love the Interior but not enough to give up my current ZL without a whole lot faster times and ability/agility.
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What 725hp package? You just made it up.



What does HP have to do with it?
If you want HP then you SHOULD go buy a Hellcat.
If you want a car with power and can still find its way around a track, keep your ZL1. Otherwise why would anyone trade their ZL1 in for a Hellcat.

Seems like a silly comparison.

Besides, we already know the new CTS-V will have 640hp Seen Here
So IF there were a Gen6 ZL1 it would not be too far off.

You really started off here with a smartass answer then at the end of all your itemized answers you did see the word IF.
What does HP have to do with it? I guess you do not get out much. Pick up any mag,go to any auto show or anything to do with high performance cars and what is the first thing people say? O there is the hellcat,that car has 711 HP!

If I wanted a hellcat I would have went and bought one.

Your last statement directed at me is if I wanted power and find my way around a track to keep my ZL1. Other wise why would anyone trade there ZL1 for a hellcat?
This is all mute because AGAIN the word IF was in my question.

Silly comparison? You failed this test! I hope while you are at work at Yahoo you don't screw up my search engine when I try to go to this board and send me to a ford site. Sorry,I forgot you came from a ford product. Well some of us are slow learners.
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Old 06-08-2015, 08:04 AM   #22
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If GM doesn't release some sort of ZL1 equivalent to rival the Hellcat lineup and Ford's offering I'll be extremely disappointed. With a 4 cyl offering and euro styling its clear in the path they are heading with the Camaro.
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honestly it is so easy to make 725 crank HP on this car taking the resale hit just for the "power" would be stupid to me.


I would not sell this car just for hp. there would have to be more coming to the table. It's why the hellcat is meaningless to me. It does not handle. It barely runs faster laps than a 1le or mustang get even though it has almost 300 more HP.


I don't see the 2017 or 18 when ever they release the camaro z?? getting anything other than the LT4.

the 8 speed auto car though would be a 10 second car most likely. the styling will would have to be tweaked more for me to buy one though. it is not doing it for me to date.
the corvette barely runs 10s with the auto, the camaro wont come close. Mid 11s at best.
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I would be tempted. In reality I probably will not, as this was the last big car purchase that I will make in a long while (if I am lucky).
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Let me reach into my Magic Bag of Nope™ and see...

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