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Old 04-23-2012, 05:32 AM   #69
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Yes it is and we are not fools, in this day in age where everybody's picture cazy and no one at this event has camara i'am not buying it
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Old 04-23-2012, 05:43 AM   #70
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hmmmmm oh they didn't have the money for a cam/phone.
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Old 04-23-2012, 06:04 AM   #71
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I'm not surprised at the results and it sounds like the GT500 is about a half a second quicker in the quarter. There will be other runs when the two kings meet for head to head battle and it will be all over YouTube.
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Old 04-23-2012, 06:10 AM   #72
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Have never checked, but the 2011 gt500, bone stock runs mid 11's? Don't think so. I believe there is a video on this forum of a bone stock Z running a 12.02. Of course we weren't there for that. No way Chevy builds a car that couldn't beat the current competition gt500. The 2013 will probably be a little different
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Old 04-23-2012, 06:35 AM   #73
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ya, but it still a FORD.
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Old 04-23-2012, 06:38 AM   #74
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Have never checked, but the 2011 gt500, bone stock runs mid 11's? Don't think so. I believe there is a video on this forum of a bone stock Z running a 12.02. Of course we weren't there for that. No way Chevy builds a car that couldn't beat the current competition gt500. The 2013 will probably be a little different


This really isn't worthy of a 64 page debate. First, the current GT500 is no slouch. Put a marginal driver in a ZL1 and a good driver in a 2011/2012 GT500 and the GT500 will win.

There is video evidence on this site of a stock ZL1 running a 12:02 after just two passes. In the hands on a good driver the ZL1 is no slouch; although, we all have to admit this car was not really produced for the drag strip.

The 2013 GT500 better beat the ZL1 very soundly at the drag strip or there is going to be a whole lot of crying in the Ford camp. With the kind of power that car produces, I do not see how it won't beat the ZL1 in straight line acceleration. I think even we the Chevy faithful will have to admit stock for stock the 2013 GT500 will have the advantage at the quarter mile.

This particular story sounds like a guy that maybe didn't get all that he could out of the ZL1. Just my opinion.
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Old 04-23-2012, 06:53 AM   #75
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Unfortunately , even if true, this story has no credibility..........without time slips and vids or pics , THIS THREAD IS USELESS............so I guess I can just cancel my order then.....duh
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Old 04-23-2012, 07:07 AM   #76
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Wow, It's threads like these that I'm actually glad I have an SS instead of a ZL1. Too many fanboys that believe that the ZL1 is the "end of all be all" of performance vehicles, and don't believe that a higher horsepower vehicle bested the mighty "ZL1", lol!

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Old 04-23-2012, 07:12 AM   #77
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I highly doubt a stock Zl1 is going to be faster than a stock '13 GT500 in the 1/4. I'm not knocking the ZL1, but it seems very obvious that the new GT500 was built for the 1/4 mile:

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This what I was thinking. Throw in a few turns and the ZL1 would rape, but in a straight line, I don't see it.
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Old 04-23-2012, 07:18 AM   #78
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Wow, It's threads like these that I'm actually glad I have an SS instead of a ZL1. Too many fanboys that believe that the ZL1 is the "end of all be all" of performance vehicles, and don't believe that a higher horsepower vehicle bested the mighty "ZL1", lol!

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"PICS or it DIDNT HAPPEN!!"

"No way because it's a FORD!!"
I'm not saying that the ZL1 is the end of all be all. I'm just sayin that I don't think that there is a .5 second difference between a STOCK 2011 gt500 and the Z. That's all. Last time I knew the current gt500 had LESS power than the Z. I know that the gt500 is a great car, but the facts don't add up. That's all. No more, no less
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Old 04-23-2012, 07:29 AM   #79
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The current (11-12) GT500 has a better power/weight ratio than the ZL1.
I can see the GT500 beating the ZL1 from a roll with both drivers being equal.
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Old 04-23-2012, 07:31 AM   #80
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What Mode was the ZL1 in, just curious?
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About the PERFORMANCE issue:

Look, all of you arguing over phantom issues is pointless. The proof will be when the competition is underway. Not before. Wasting a lot of H20 here in my opinion. I'm not arguing about some race that was supposedly run by supposedly stock vehicles in a supposedly measurable way. This particular test presented by the OP holds no merit, even if he did "see it". I can guarantee you that when they meet head to head, they will take turns beating each other on the drag strip. And the H2O will certainly fly then!

But, looks are looks are looks are looks. ZL1 is the Pinnacle of design and engineering from what all the rags say.

Regardless of what the head to head performance comparisons will eventually prove, You cannot beat the totality of ZL1's originality and distinction.

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Old 04-23-2012, 08:28 AM   #82
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Not many 11/12 GT500s on the road who are interested in street racing that are running around stock these days. Could it have been maybe. Hell when I had my 04 Cobra pullied and tuned, it was stock Because unless you knew exactly what to look for you would never know.
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I don't understand all the BS going around. So the Ford beat the Chevy, so what. On any day of the week with different drivers The Chevy will win 1/2 the races and the ford the other 1/2. Put a professional driver in a Prius and a so-so driver in the Ford and the Prius may win.
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Old 04-23-2012, 08:32 AM   #84
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The current (11-12) GT500 has a better power/weight ratio than the ZL1.
I can see the GT500 beating the ZL1 from a roll with both drivers being equal.
Gt500- 7 lbs/hp
ZL1- 7.06lbs/hp

It's totally a driver's race from a roll. A dig should favor the ZL1 slightly on completely stock rubber, but again, so close drivers are the difference.
It should make for some awesome battles. Not too many stock 11-12 GT500's out there I would guess though.
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Old 04-23-2012, 08:34 AM   #85
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What more proof do you need bro? The current GT500 will NOT beat a ZL1 nor will the 13'... im sorry but when Chevy called them out when they annouced their new GT500 then to back out? shows signs of inferior bro... point proven man... oh and im still waiten on the numbers at Nurburgring for the 13' GT500... yea they wont release those "High" numbers LOL
Where are your videos that prove what you say is true?

I love the ZL1 and would pick one all day long over a GT500 but the fact remains that the ZL1 is slower in a drag race. The baseline runs that LPE has done with their cars prove that.

How do you know the '13 GT500 isn't faster than a ZL1? Does your ZL1 have a flux capacitor that allows you to time travel so you can see a drag race that hasn't happened yet?

All of this is not a knock on the ZL1, it's just the truth. It doesn't mean that it's not a fantastic car. You guys need to stop getting so butt-hurt anytime someone posts something about a GT500 being faster.
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