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Old 04-24-2012, 08:33 PM   #1
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Tires!

Now that the new ZL-1's are finding their new homes with there new proud owners, has anyone else priced the tires for these bad boys before you go and burn off all that rubber? I'm not complaining by no means, just figured if we can help fellow Camaro5 members get the best deal on a set of tires for these awesome cars. Post the pricing you find here!! I priced the stock tires and I got a price of $500-$550 here in New Mexico! I found some online for around $400-$450 but didn't check shipping price. If and when you have to replace your tires, are you going to put the stock tires back on, or will you go with something a little different, and what would the price and brand of those be?
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Old 04-24-2012, 08:44 PM   #2
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Now that the new ZL-1's are finding their new homes with there new proud owners, has anyone else priced the tires for these bad boys before you go and burn off all that rubber? I'm not complaining by no means, just figured if we can help fellow Camaro5 members get the best deal on a set of tires for these awesome cars. Post the pricing you find here!! I priced the stock tires and I got a price of $500-$550 here in New Mexico! I found some online for around $400-$450 but didn't check shipping price. If and when you have to replace your tires, are you going to put the stock tires back on, or will you go with something a little different, and what would the price and brand of those be?
Finding the Goodyears a little noisy - How about others?
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Old 04-24-2012, 08:50 PM   #3
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Goodyears are noisy to me also.

I plan on going with Nitto 555R's for my next set of street tires.
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Old 04-24-2012, 09:10 PM   #4
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I really enjoy these tires. Even in the wet, they seem to find grip. I'm anxious to see how long they LAST....but then that's one of those trade-offs made for super-sticky grip.

The local tire store will install a full set for around $1700 dollars. That includes balancing...

Also - it needs to be mentioned...in order for the PTM system to remain optimally effective, you need to have those OEM tires on the car....
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Old 04-24-2012, 09:17 PM   #5
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what about the micheline pilot cup tires,... how much are they going for?
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Old 04-24-2012, 09:21 PM   #6
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what about the micheline pilot cup tires,... how much are they going for?
They don't make one in the ZL1's wheel size at the moment....but they're in the neighborhood of ~$450..
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Old 04-24-2012, 09:32 PM   #7
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I researched this a while back...I can't remember which tire it was but I only saw one the same tire size and it was more expensive...between 500 and 600 slightly higher than the GY's
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Old 04-24-2012, 09:34 PM   #8
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I researched this a while back...I can't remember which tire it was but I only saw one the same tire size and it was more expensive...between 500 and 600 slightly higher than the GY's
If memory serves, there is one winter tire, Pirelli Scorpions, and Pirelli PZero summers...

You can probably make a Michelin Super Sport fit if you accepted slightly lower/higher aspect ratios...It's been a while since I looked all that up...and honestly, so far - not feeling much reason to opt for a different tire at this point.
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FYI, my local dealer mentioned that these tires are a bear to mount on the rims. He mentioned that just mounting them to the rims would cost $100 each.
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Old 04-24-2012, 10:30 PM   #10
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Run flats are noisy. Switching away is better in every way except when you have a flat. Roll nitto's if you want to save money. Nt05's are the best choose of bang for the buck right now for a car like this that corners awesome as well.

Michelin's are nice but they are expesive as well.
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FYI, my local dealer mentioned that these tires are a bear to mount on the rims. He mentioned that just mounting them to the rims would cost $100 each.
Time to find someone else then as you dealer is raping you. Mounting a tire with a stiff sidewall sucks at times but $100 means he sucks at mounting tires and is afraid he will scratch a rim. Dealers don't do enough tire volume so they price gouge.
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I really enjoy these tires. Even in the wet, they seem to find grip. I'm anxious to see how long they LAST....but then that's one of those trade-offs made for super-sticky grip.

The local tire store will install a full set for around $1700 dollars. That includes balancing...

Also - it needs to be mentioned...in order for the PTM system to remain optimally effective, you need to have those OEM tires on the car....
So, you really feel like the Goodyears are "super sticky"? Really? And it really sucks for ZL1 owners if what you say is true about the PTM and they cannot opt for better tires.
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Factory Tires Goodyear F1 G2 285/35-20 $429 TR 305/35-20 $449 TR
Michelin Pilot Supe r Sport 285/35-20 $358 DT 315/35-20 $452 DT
Michelin Pilot PS2 305/35-20 $483 TR
Nitto Invo 275/40-20 $247 DT 315/35-20 $291 DT
Continental DWS 275/40-20 $269 DT 315/35-20 $255 TR

TR=Tire Rack prices are plus shipping.
DT=Discount Tire prices include shipping.

315/35-20 tires are +0.3" in diameter. My service mgr. tells me 0.3" should not cause a problem. The size can be programmed into the ECU.

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Old 04-25-2012, 10:03 AM   #14
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The Zl1 does not have run flats.
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Old 04-25-2012, 10:52 AM   #15
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If memory serves, there is one winter tire, Pirelli Scorpions, and Pirelli PZero summers...

You can probably make a Michelin Super Sport fit if you accepted slightly lower/higher aspect ratios...It's been a while since I looked all that up...and honestly, so far - not feeling much reason to opt for a different tire at this point.
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I really enjoy these tires. Even in the wet, they seem to find grip. I'm anxious to see how long they LAST....but then that's one of those trade-offs made for super-sticky grip.

The local tire store will install a full set for around $1700 dollars. That includes balancing...

Also - it needs to be mentioned...in order for the PTM system to remain optimally effective, you need to have those OEM tires on the car....
They are pretty good tires, but you will find they will not last very long at all if it is your daily driver.
Also, if you go the pulley and tune route, you will see that will hold hold the power very well either.
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I'm curious. How long is "not very long"?
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I'm curious. How long is "not very long"?
Less than 12k miles. I have seen GT500 guys go through them in 6 months.
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Less than 12k miles. I have seen GT500 guys go through them in 6 months.
Mine's are almost slicks at 15K miles.
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The wear depends on driving style. I base my opinion off both my 5th Gens running P-Zero tires if the same size. My wife's V6 with 14K miles, the tires still look new. Mine with just under 19K miles, the back tires have about 2K if I take it easy with them.

Seeing the Goodyear and the Pirelli have the same wear and traction ratings, I figure for me around 20K miles should be a safe bet before changing them. This should give me a good two years run time. On my SS I think I can get away with just replacing the rears this time around, then all four after that.
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The Zl1 does not have run flats.
here is the tire info. they are runfats.

http://www.goodyear.com/en-US/tires/...40803931600000
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So, you really feel like the Goodyears are "super sticky"? Really? And it really sucks for ZL1 owners if what you say is true about the PTM and they cannot opt for better tires.
You know - I've been wondering about this... You bring up an excellent point, and if you're going where I think you were going, I'm still waiting to see someone with talent drive the car without the Goodyears, on, say, Sport Cups, without the PTM, and see if there's a different in times and dynamics. I know either Mark, Al, Tony or Aaron mentioned the PTM extrapolates/expects traction (among the many other factors) and when they're break-lose, so, that means, to me, that it might jump in sooner with superior tires and not allow the car to exploit the extra grip in all circumstances. That's not a factor if you're not in PTM, however, probably most people will remain in one of the modes for almost all of their driving, so I'll be interested if anyone ever does any scientific testing to verify what will happen.

Personally - I'll be looking at Sport Cups, probably in bigger sizes, when it's time for replacement. I better get a car first though Talk about cart before the horse!

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there should be sensors on the car to detect wheel slip and such.

the down side would be basically if they limit power in a specific mode to the goodyear and you put on a superior tire you may not see its advantages.

I will say in corners the goodyears will be really good. At the drag strip there are beter compounds for sure.

at the drag strip you should turn all the managemnt off and just drive right so just have a set of tires for the drags and roll the good years on the street.

the sport cups do not come is a size that is very close yet 25 series is what they have in a 315. 315/25-20 is 2" less diameter.
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I would like to go a little wider anyways, and see if I can get a little shorter tire. I'm affraid, though, I might lose a little of the proportions I like so much already, in the side view of the car...

Thanks, hog' - that was going to be my next little research project. You just saved me a few minutes
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The wear depends on driving style. I base my opinion off both my 5th Gens running P-Zero tires if the same size. My wife's V6 with 14K miles, the tires still look new. Mine with just under 19K miles, the back tires have about 2K if I take it easy with them.

Seeing the Goodyear and the Pirelli have the same wear and traction ratings, I figure for me around 20K miles should be a safe bet before changing them. This should give me a good two years run time. On my SS I think I can get away with just replacing the rears this time around, then all four after that.
Tire wear numbers are only good for comparing them to tires within the same manufacturer as they are not standardized.
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