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Old 04-26-2012, 11:44 PM   #51
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Or the highly acclaimed '96 Impala SS...

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Old 04-27-2012, 12:09 AM   #52
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Or the highly acclaimed '96 Impala SS...

Indeed. Plenty of bold & unique design cues for GM to use
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Old 04-27-2012, 10:37 AM   #53
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I would love to see something from Chevy that is all new, and not based on any existing or past name plate or designs. When was the last time that actually happened? And what car was it?
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Sonic, Cruze, VOLT, Equinox, Traverse...
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Old 04-27-2012, 10:52 AM   #54
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"Commodore"....they may as well release it as a Buick. That name sounds like it belongs in a Chevy Chase vacation movie and a car my 84 year old Dad would drive.

Give it a "fresh", new name!
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Old 04-27-2012, 11:22 AM   #55
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"Commodore"....they may as well release it as a Buick. That name sounds like it belongs in a Chevy Chase vacation movie and a car my 84 year old Dad would drive.

Give it a "fresh", new name!
Commodore is what its called in Australia. Allegedly, the US version is going to be called 'SS'
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Old 04-28-2012, 08:12 AM   #56
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Remember all the stories a while ago about them planning to import RWD Holden "Caprices" to sell to police departments and everyone was hoping that there'd be a civilian version? Maybe that is exactly what is going to happen?

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/538...shful-thinking

http://www.gmfleet.com/government/po...ice_police_car
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Old 04-28-2012, 03:46 PM   #57
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Not Caprice. Commodore.
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Old 04-28-2012, 04:18 PM   #58
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Hey folks anyone notice it also list Chevrolet Captiva? This is an export Equinox. Don't get your pantys in a bunch, but maybe just maybe OnStar documentation isnt 100% accurate. Or you are looking at a export sheet? After all some Buicks are badged as Chevrolets in some countries.
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Captiva is a fleet only rebadge of the Vue, intended to keep the Equinox fleet volume low (and therefore keep their resale value high)
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Hey folks anyone notice it also list Chevrolet Captiva? This is an export Equinox. Don't get your pantys in a bunch, but maybe just maybe OnStar documentation isnt 100% accurate. Or you are looking at a export sheet? After all some Buicks are badged as Chevrolets in some countries.
Which Buick's are rebadged as Chevy's?
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Old 04-28-2012, 06:10 PM   #60
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Hey folks anyone notice it also list Chevrolet Captiva? This is an export Equinox. Don't get your pantys in a bunch, but maybe just maybe OnStar documentation isnt 100% accurate. Or you are looking at a export sheet? After all some Buicks are badged as Chevrolets in some countries.
The Captiva and Equinox are two very different cars and the Captiva is sold to fleets in the US. In fact I just saw one today.
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Old 04-28-2012, 11:32 PM   #61
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Which Buick's are rebadged as Chevy's?
Simple rebadge? None

But every buick in the US either has, or will have a Chevy that shares the same platform.

Verano/Cruze
Regal/Next gen Malibu
LaCrosse/Next gen Impla
Enclave/Traverse
upcoming Encore/Sonic
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Old 04-29-2012, 06:57 AM   #62
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Looking at fenwicks sig, I think they should kill the buick name. Hell they have cadillac

Personally GMC should be the truck line, caddy the high end line, and chevy there standard fleet. Trim the fat and build better vehicles. It is not like the want to build vehicles here in the states any how.

What vehicles do they still build stateside?
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:53 AM   #63
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Looking at fenwicks sig, I think they should kill the buick name. Hell they have cadillac

Personally GMC should be the truck line, caddy the high end line, and chevy there standard fleet. Trim the fat and build better vehicles. It is not like the want to build vehicles here in the states any how.

What vehicles do they still build stateside?
They should kill one of their most profitable divisions with one of the highest conquest rates in the industry? Smart move.

Build better vehicles? Where have you been for the last couple years? GM is building some of the best cars they've ever built.

And you seriously don't think GM builds anything here?

Spark - South Korea
Sonic - Orion Assembly, Michigan
Cruze - Lordstown Assembly, Ohio
Volt - Detroit-Hamtramck Assembly, Michigan

Malibu - Fairfax Assembly, Kansas/Detroit-Hamtramck Assembly, Michigan
Impala - Oshawa Assembly #2
2014 Impala - Oshawa Assembly #2, Canada/Detroit-Hamtramck Assembly, Michigan
Caprice - Elizabeth, South Australia, Australia
Camaro - Oshawa Assembly #1, Canada
Corvette - Bowling Green Assembly, Kentucky
Captiva Sport - Ramos Arizpe #2, Mexico
Equinox - CAMI Automotive/Oshawa #2, Canada
Traverse - Lansing Delta Township, Michigan
Tahoe - Arlington Assembly, Texas
Suburban - Arlington Assembly, Texas
Colorado - Shreveport Operations, Louisiana
Silverado - Flint Assembly, Michigan/Fort Wayne Assembly, Indiana
/Silao Assembly, Mexico
Express - Wentzville Assembly, Missouri


Verano - Orion Assembly, Michigan
Regal - Oshawa #1, Canada
LaCrosse - Fairfax Assembly, Kansas
Encore - Bupyeong, South Korea
Enclave - Lansing Delta Township, Michigan

Terrain - CAMI Automotive, Canada
Acadia - Lansing Delta Township, Michigan
Yukon - Arlington Assembly, Texas
Yukon XL - Arlington Assembly, Texas
Canyon - Shreveport Operations, Louisiana
Sierra - Flint Assembly, Michigan/Fort Wayne Assembly, Indiana
/Silao Assembly, Mexico
Savana - Wentzville Assembly, Missouri


ATS - Lansing Grand River Assembly, Michigan
CTS - Lansing Grand River Assembly, Michigan
XTS - Oshawa Assembly, Canada
SRX - Ramos Arizpe, Mexico
Escalade - Arlington Assembly, Texas
Escalade ESV - Arlington Assembly, Texas


Bold = US-built products.
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Old 04-29-2012, 09:49 AM   #64
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Not Caprice. Commodore.
From what I've read the US Caprice PPV is based on the Holden Caprice which is a longer wheelbase version of the Commodore. Since I was referring to the PPV's I used "Caprice". Is that not correct for the PPV's?

http://www.holden.com.au/vehicles/caprice

http://www.holden.com.au/vehicles/commodore
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Old 04-29-2012, 02:37 PM   #65
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From what I've read the US Caprice PPV is based on the Holden Caprice which is a longer wheelbase version of the Commodore. Since I was referring to the PPV's I used "Caprice". Is that not correct for the PPV's?

http://www.holden.com.au/vehicles/caprice

http://www.holden.com.au/vehicles/commodore
The PPV is a Caprice. What the SS sedan will be is a Commodore.
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Simple rebadge? None

But every buick in the US either has, or will have a Chevy that shares the same platform.

Verano/Cruze
Regal/Next gen Malibu
LaCrosse/Next gen Impla
Enclave/Traverse
upcoming Encore/Sonic
Oh I know DG, I was "calling" the other guy out.
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HEY GM!!! Build a 400+ hp sedan with aggressive styling in the $35,000-$40,000 range and I will commit to there being one in Apex Chase's garage. If you guys are going to be so bold as to call the car "SS" you better make sure it lives up to it though. Just let me know who to make the deposit check out to.
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Sonic, Cruze, VOLT, Equinox, Traverse...
Other than the volt, nothing on this list looks new at all.

The name plates are new, but the designs are old or the same as every one else in each segment. Even the volt is a shadow of its concept version.

No one, when seeing either of these cars for the first time is thinking, wow what was that.

Last time that happened was the new camaro and even that is based on old design.
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They should kill one of their most profitable divisions with one of the highest conquest rates in the industry? Smart move.
It may be a smart move, but the fact that Buick lives while Pontiac died hurts my heart. :(
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Buick lived because it sells huge units overseas and especially in China. GM could not afford to kill the Buick nameplate with these kind of numbers. We at home would have preferred Pontiac to live, but business is business.

I think there will be renamed version of the Caprice police car and it will just be SS. If the new Impala was not already done, it could have been the Impala SS, but I find that highly unlikely given the release of the new Impala. As mentioned before, the GTO well a good car was not a huge hit. I do not think GM will dig up the Chevellle name again to do the same as it did on the GTO.

Maybe they will bring back the Lumina nameplate for NASCAR.
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idgaf about China, I want a new trans am.
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That wasn't going to happen even if Pontiac survived
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That wasn't going to happen even if Pontiac survived
Because of a little something called a Camaro.

And before anyone says, "Well WTF Fen, there was a Firebird coexisting with a Camaro for years," remember that the new GM has no room for two cars that cater to the exact same demographic.
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Old 05-03-2012, 12:07 PM   #74
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I doubt the Chevelle will ever make a come back. I don't see where they will fit it in the line up. The Camaro is being pushed into entry Corvette territory. If they tried to force a new Chevelle, someone would end up pissed off.
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Because of a little something called a Camaro.

And before anyone says, "Well WTF Fen, there was a Firebird coexisting with a Camaro for years," remember that the new GM has no room for two cars that cater to the exact same demographic.
GM and chevy trucks, exactly the same minus grills... Say what you want, but they are exactly the same and pointless. If one didnt exist the rest would just buy the other.
There is alot more reason for a firebird than a clone truck, and clone cuv. For the exact same reason the terrain and the equinox exist, so should camaro and firebird. Some people may want the same package, but for it to look entirely different.
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