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Old 12-15-2014, 06:13 PM   #1
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ZL1 vs Z06...

Hey guys...what does it take to make these cars run with a stock C6 Z06? I've ridden in many of those and would love to get my car to perform on par with one in a straight line
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Old 12-15-2014, 06:26 PM   #2
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Hey guys...what does it take to make these cars run with a stock C6 Z06? I've ridden in many of those and would love to get my car to perform on par with one in a straight line

Your going to need about ~590-600whp manual ~565-575 auto IMO


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I think you will have a bit more grip issue out of the hole but that should put you right on par power wise.


if you want the cheap route just start with 10% lower, headers, cai and that will get you somwhere close but I still feel like I am a tad down on power too my Z06 but it still feels strong.
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Old 12-15-2014, 07:22 PM   #3
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I've beat a few at my power level. One actually had a few mods and it was very close but I still took it.
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Old 12-15-2014, 07:30 PM   #4
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I'm beating most that I run,I'm over 650who but also have an auto with a tc. Runs 10.0-10.1
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Old 12-15-2014, 07:30 PM   #5
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with an 8.66 lower at my road course power level 508/540, I am about equal on a straightaway as a bone stock C6 Z06. I am also slightly slower than a bone stock 2014 Shelby GT500 above 125mph. So, a 9.1" lower or larger and associated bolt ons will definitely get you there.
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Old 12-15-2014, 08:52 PM   #6
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I beat a zo6 in the 1/8 fairly easily with 10% lower CAI and tb. He had CAI and headers. The following season he added a cam and I went 18% and headers and beat him.
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Old 12-15-2014, 10:13 PM   #7
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You might be able to beat a C7 Z06 once it gets hot, a Viper TA already did.

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You might be able to beat a C7 Z06 once it gets hot, a Viper TA already did.

http://jalopnik.com/2015-corvette-z0...-to-1669754727

a viper t/a runs runs low 11's at 128-129 with magazine drivers so good luck with that.

I don't know how people think a viper is slow these days but they run door to door with zr1's pretty much.
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:06 AM   #9
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I'm going to be cammed pretty soon...M6 expecting around 675 rwhp. Should I be able to handle most of the Z06, GTR, GT500 crowd after that?
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I'm going to be cammed pretty soon...M6 expecting around 675 rwhp. Should I be able to handle most of the Z06, GTR, GT500 crowd after that?
Depends on driver mod

When you're dealing with the z06/gtr/gt500 "crowd" 650whp isn't going to handle sh*t. If they're all stock you'd be ok.. but ive heard they make mods for those cars too
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Old 12-16-2014, 02:41 AM   #11
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Your going to need about ~590-600whp manual ~565-575 auto IMO


my .02

1. 18 or 23% lower
2. headers
3. CAI
4. id 850's
5. HX upgrade


I think you will have a bit more grip issue out of the hole but that should put you right on par power wise.


if you want the cheap route just start with 10% lower, headers, cai and that will get you somwhere close but I still feel like I am a tad down on power too my Z06 but it still feels strong.
I got just the 10 percent lower, intake, Injectors, custom tune. Stock manifolds and exhaust. 587rwhp ....
I have never ran one but I consider myself an excellent driver. Hopefully I have the power it takes...

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Old 12-16-2014, 10:08 AM   #12
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I'm going to be cammed pretty soon...M6 expecting around 675 rwhp. Should I be able to handle most of the Z06, GTR, GT500 crowd after that?
if you can drive the car to its potential yes you will be able to drive around all those cars stock.

675whp should put you car at a driver race with many high end cars.
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Old 12-16-2014, 10:13 AM   #13
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1000 lb difference is hard to overcome. It will take a healthy dose of mods to keep up with a stock Z06...with a capable driver.
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Old 12-16-2014, 10:26 AM   #14
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It also depends on the race. Stoplight to stoplight would be a ZL1 advantage. Starting from 50-60mph would be a Z06 advantage. As mentioned weight is killer. To get a better idea figure out how many HP per pound the Z06 is. Then you would basically need to match that. The gearing does change stuff though. My 2011 C6 had longer gears than my ZL1. With 750rwhp my C6 was brutal in 3rd and 4th. No traction at all in 1st and 2nd though. I liked my C6 better with 650rwhp as I could stick 2nd gear.
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Old 12-16-2014, 10:37 AM   #15
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I'm beating most that I run,I'm over 650who but also have an auto with a tc. Runs 10.0-10.1
Congrats Paul on your latest run, 10.1 is pretty awesome. Your at the point now, you'll have to have that cage mod next !!!
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Old 12-16-2014, 10:42 AM   #16
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a viper t/a runs runs low 11's at 128-129 with magazine drivers so good luck with that.

I don't know how people think a viper is slow these days but they run door to door with zr1's pretty much.
...and they smoke the C7 Z06 too.
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Congrats Paul on your latest run, 10.1 is pretty awesome. Your at the point now, you'll have to have that cage mod next !!!
Shhh we wont tell anyone it doesn't! Hoping to go 9s on thurs. Once I buy myself something to dayly drive instead of the Z I will do a cage.
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Old 12-16-2014, 01:23 PM   #18
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A Z06 Corvette puts out 650 hp. and weighs under 3400 lbs. while the The ZL1 puts out 580 hp. and weighs 4120 lbs. That's almost a 25% hp. to weight disadvantage right out of the box. You're going to need something on the order of 785 hp. out of the Camaro to even things out. Chevy says the A8 Z06 will do 0 to 60 in 2.9 and the Camaro ZL1 can do it in 3.9 seconds.
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Old 12-16-2014, 01:33 PM   #19
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Also, if you look at that Hellcat vs base C7 video you see that the Hellcat driver had some work to do to get the car hooked up while the C7 driver just had to mash the pedal.
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OP was asking if he could beat a c6 zo6, the c7 zo6 is a different matter!
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OP was asking if he could beat a c6 zo6, the c7 zo6 is a different matter!
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Old 12-19-2014, 03:40 PM   #22
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Is the ZR1 faster than a C7 z06?
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Is the ZR1 faster than a C7 z06?
Looking at numbers they appear to be very close in the 1/4 mile, basically high 10s at 127-130 traps.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/commenc...mes-announced/

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