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Old 08-10-2014, 04:09 AM   #1
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Driver Kevin Ward, Jr. Killed In Incident With Tony Stewart

Not much info out yet, but this is horrible. RIP Kevin Ward Jr. and prayers sent to his family.
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Old 08-10-2014, 05:56 AM   #2
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Hard to tell what happened...whether he tried to hit him or not.

Not good, though.

Video of the incident here (NSFW, I suppose).

http://deadspin.com/reports-tony-ste...ing-1618893708

A good report here too..

http://www.foxsports.com/nascar/stor...stewart-081014
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Old 08-10-2014, 06:00 AM   #3
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While it sucks it happened, you dont walk out in front of a moving f'ing car!!! That was just straight up stupid. Especially on a dirt track where traction is none.
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Old 08-10-2014, 07:34 AM   #4
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This is just horrible. Thoughts to the Ward family. It wouldn't surprise me if Tony retires after this regardless of what legal issues might come from it. I have a feeling the repercussions from this will be huge especially in terms of on track antics and retaliation. I totally anticipate that NASCAR will make drivers sit in their cars until safety crews get there and make them go immediately into the ambulance with any type of antics resulting in a penalty. Just my .02.
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Old 08-10-2014, 08:24 AM   #5
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I don't think Stewart should or will retire from this. Tragic accident, even if he was trying to "make a point" by revving the engine/breaking loose the tires while passing Ward.

Simply put, this stuff has been going on for far too long. The running after moving cars and throwing a tantrum on the track. So unsafe, and this was bound to happen eventually. Up until now, NASCAR has allowed these antics to go on, so it looks like it's become popular even in the lower levels of the sport of driving.

Heck, I've even enjoyed some of the antics when they did this...and I'm sure many others did as well. Until now, safety during these antics just wasn't an issue.

Now, I suspect they enact rules that will suspend/ban drivers if they break these safety rules in the future.
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Old 08-10-2014, 09:47 AM   #6
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aweful I just hope Stewart wasn't trying to scare him..
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Old 08-10-2014, 09:54 AM   #7
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the driver was hit by Tony ' s right rear wheel as Tony attempted to swerve to avoid the driver and the rear end slid into the driver.
End of story ! nobody should exit their car like that during a race..It was just a young mans mistake...
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Old 08-10-2014, 10:01 AM   #8
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While it sucks it happened, you dont walk out in front of a moving f'ing car!!! That was just straight up stupid. Especially on a dirt track where traction is none.
+1. I'm sorry for the Ward family, but that guy is a complete moron.

And I think Stewart is racing today.
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Old 08-10-2014, 10:15 AM   #9
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After watching the video several times I do believe because of the black drivers suit and dark corner Tony may not have been able to see him until it was too late, it also looked to me like he was swerving trying to miss him.
I wouldn't put too much stock into eye witness accounts though. There are too many that will say he did it on purpose because they don't like him. Just as his fans will say the opposite. I say let the videos and at the scene evidence do most of the speaking.
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Old 08-10-2014, 10:16 AM   #10
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Driver Kevin Ward, Jr. Killed In Incident With Tony Stewart

Really sad. Seems a lot of stupidity on both sides of it but unfortunately one paid the ultimate price. RIP.

Nobody will ever know for sure what Tony was thinking or if he even saw him but we can be sure that this will follow him and torment him the rest of his life.

Unfortunately when we are talking about manslaughter/murder I wouldn't trust what he says.
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Old 08-10-2014, 10:22 AM   #11
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My prayers go out to the Ward family.
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Old 08-10-2014, 10:25 AM   #12
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Tony decides not to race today.. I figured he wouldn't, he made the right decision..
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Old 08-10-2014, 10:29 AM   #13
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After watching the video several times I do believe because of the black drivers suit and dark corner Tony may not have been able to see him until it was too late, it also looked to me like he was swerving trying to miss him.
I wouldn't put too much stock into eye witness accounts though. There are too many that will say he did it on purpose because they don't like him. Just as his fans will say the opposite. I say let the videos and at the scene evidence do most of the speaking.
Agree. I've heard two accounts that either say he gunned it or that he yanked the wheel. With the way those vehicles handle there isn't much that you can do that won't kick the ass end out. This is just a bad situation. I don't think Tony Stewart meant to hit the kid, but his reputation isn't doing him a service right now.
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Old 08-10-2014, 10:38 AM   #14
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Sometimes stupid has no bounds. Regardless of how pissed he was about getting wrecked, you get out of your car thinking you can take on a car coming toward you, you get what you get. It's tragic that it happened, but there's really only one person's fault for the way it turned out.

Sorry, I can't feel much remorse for someone doing incredibly stupid things. Race experience and anger aren't much help against a right rear car tire.

I think there will be new rules to keep people in disabled cars (unless it's on fire, etc.) until the rescue teams get there. Violators could be heavily fined or suspended. Incentivize people not to do retarded antics.
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that's crazy getting in front of a car like that. i 'm not sure how quickly those cars on a dirt track can stop anyway.
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Old 08-10-2014, 11:16 AM   #16
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Old 08-10-2014, 11:25 AM   #17
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In the video you can hear the engine in Tony's car rev right before the contact. There is no reason for tony to give the car gas at that time other than if he was trying to kick the rear end out and scare him and/or hit him. Tony has a bad temper.
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Old 08-10-2014, 11:31 AM   #18
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Don't know much about this sport but could've he been down shifting to slow down?
And how fast do you think he was going roughly?
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Old 08-10-2014, 11:41 AM   #19
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In the video you can hear the engine in Tony's car rev right before the contact. There is no reason for tony to give the car gas at that time other than if he was trying to kick the rear end out and scare him and/or hit him. Tony has a bad temper.
Yeah, except that is amateur video... and what audio is captured on a cell phone is not necessarily what video is captured. There is zero way to tell what vehicle was revving or where it was located based on the video. Case in point, if you've ever watched drag racing videos shot on the line, you can hear cars in the burnout box better than cars on the line. Not to mention, on a fast revving race car, that could just as easily have been a downshift.

I'm by no means saying it didn't happen, only that the video doesn't necessarily villainize him.

Source: I work in broadcasting.

Bottom line, there were two attitudes at play here, and he walked 30 feet out onto an active race track. When you put yourself in harms way, there is a chance that harm will happen. Especially when sprint cars that are designed to oversteer and not turn in.
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Yeah, except that is amateur video... and what audio is captured on a cell phone is not necessarily what video is captured. There is zero way to tell what vehicle was revving or where it was located based on the video. Case in point, if you've ever watched drag racing videos shot on the line, you can hear cars in the burnout box better than cars on the line. Not to mention, on a fast revving race car, that could just as easily have been a downshift.

I'm by no means saying it didn't happen, only that the video doesn't necessarily villainize him.

Source: I work in broadcasting.

Bottom line, there were two attitudes at play here, and he walked 30 feet out onto an active race track. When you put yourself in harms way, there is a chance that harm will happen. Especially when sprint cars that are designed to oversteer and not turn in.
I would bet my 1LE that the engine sound in the video was Tony's car. You can see it fishtailing which corresponds with the revving. I'm not saying he meant to do it, maybe he was just trying to scare him. But yeah they other guy shouldn't have been on the track in the first place.
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Old 08-10-2014, 12:02 PM   #21
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Old 08-10-2014, 12:27 PM   #22
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Old 08-10-2014, 12:33 PM   #23
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He almost got ran over buy the cars in front of tony then he kept walking down the track. I highly dought tony even seen him till it was to late. It also looked like the kid got out of the groove and wrecked on his own IMO.
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It was just a matter of time before this happened. About the only good thing that will come out of this is rules to keep drivers from getting out of their car to confront drivers under caution.
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Old 08-10-2014, 12:43 PM   #25
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I would bet my 1LE that the engine sound in the video was Tony's car. You can see it fishtailing which corresponds with the revving. I'm not saying he meant to do it, maybe he was just trying to scare him. But yeah they other guy shouldn't have been on the track in the first place.
Watch the beginning of the video again. Video was taken pretty close to the straight. Accident was 3/4 into the turn. Any reving of engines would be from the straight as it's closer.

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