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Old 05-03-2012, 05:51 AM   #1
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Faith in Generation Y Upheld

I went to pick up my son from his High School and take him to his guitar lesson yesterday. Along the way, this well-maintained Accura with large "fart noise" muffler (sorry, that's all I can say to describe it) was safely - yet decidedly - lane changing all over. The slouching driver with askew baseball cap suggested to me to steer clear.

Came to a double laned left turn. He arrived first and was right at the line, so I stopped a bit futher behind my line, lest the wee lad think I'm wanting to race him or some other antic.

He backs up a bit, rolls down his window (mine were already down), and I instinctively think, "Oh Lord, here we go...I really don't want to do this...."

Accura: "Hey, whaccha runnin'?"
Me: "426, but it's in the break-in period, so I can't really show you."
Accura: "That's okay."

(At this point, after immediately assessing his demeanor, I'm ashamed a bit for having preconceived notions that this young buck might've been itching for action. I immediately deduce that he's doing his parents proud.)

Me: "You?"
Accura: "2XX" (I forget what he said, it was hard to hear)
Me: "How much does yours weigh?"
Accura: "About 2400 lbs, you?"
Me: "About twice that."
Accura: "That's why you have the big block!"
Me: "Probably! Have a good 'un, be safe!"

So...shame on ME for having an ill thought for what this young fellow might've had in mind, and good on me for putting it out of my mind and just doing as I've always done: BE NICE.

My faith in teenagers grew a little bit.
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Old 05-03-2012, 06:32 AM   #2
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Just to be PC I believe they perfer to be called the Millennium Generation. From what I hear they don't like to be called the Generation Y becuase all that says is that they are behind Generation X, And nobody likes to be known for comming in second.
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Old 05-03-2012, 06:52 AM   #3
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Just to be PC I believe they perfer to be called the Millennium Generation. From what I hear they don't like to be called the Generation Y becuase all that says is that they are behind Generation X, And nobody likes to be known for comming in second.
More like Generation Me and Generation Entitlement.
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More like Generation Me and Generation Entitlement.

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Old 05-03-2012, 10:13 AM   #5
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More like Generation Me and Generation Entitlement.
Not all of them just the 99% :emoticon7:
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:53 AM   #7
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Just to be PC I believe they perfer to be called the Millennium Generation. From what I hear they don't like to be called the Generation Y becuase all that says is that they are behind Generation X, And nobody likes to be known for comming in second.
Never heard of this, and I'm sure I fall into that generation. People will complain about anything I guess.

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so i just read Generation Y is between 1982 and 2002 and Generation X is 1965-1980. i use to hear that was 65-76.
i have no idea who decide's this stuff.
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:59 AM   #9
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More like Generation Me and Generation Entitlement.
No, that's the baby boomers!!! They spent all their lives saying "Peace, love, dope, down with the government" and destroying business and the environment.

Now they're crying, "We want more!!! We're entitled to it!!! It's our right!!!"

It's now OUR job to clean up their mess and change their diapers.

What a waste of a generation.
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:29 AM   #10
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No, that's the baby boomers!!! They spent all their lives saying "Peace, love, dope, down with the government" and destroying business and the environment.

Now they're crying, "We want more!!! We're entitled to it!!! It's our right!!!"

It's now OUR job to clean up their mess and change their diapers.

What a waste of a generation.



I see an age war coming on
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:30 AM   #11
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oh wow this thread is going downhill fast. But as an older Gen y'er. teenagers always feel entitled. Their whole lives up to that point their parents were paying for the majority of their clothes, vacations, toys etc... Once you move out, you change your attitude... You learn with time that it takes work to get what you want.
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:41 AM   #12
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oh wow this thread is going downhill fast. But as an older Gen y'er. teenagers always feel entitled. Their whole lives up to that point their parents were paying for the majority of their clothes, vacations, toys etc... Once you move out, you change your attitude... You learn with time that it takes work to get what you want.
As far as this "generation" thing goes, it also seemed sort of fuzzy to me as far as when one stops and the other starts...lol

But in discussing all this with others, I found interesting, and I'm sure there are exceptions, that currently "28 is the new 18". Meaning generally kids now stay at home, don't become fully employed or even want to work or move out, and/or are not financially capable due to the economy or emotionally ready to do so until around age 28, when "my" generation did all that at 18! ....Just a thought.
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:50 AM   #13
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Remember when they said Gen X (and boy do i hate that term!) were a bunch of slackers and wouldn't amount to anything? Well if it weren't for Gen X the 90's economic and dot com boom would never have happened. Labeling entire generations is useless not to mention lazy. Just saying'......
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Old 05-03-2012, 12:57 PM   #14
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What fun! I think many young people are not into cars for various reasons including expense. When you factor in inflation over the decades the cost of a new car today is not much more then in the past but upkeep is more, insurance is more. Plus cost of education keeps increasing. Factor in all the stuff which are no longer toys like cell phones, computers that my generation was not concerned about (but my generation, however needy we are in our old age, started all this personal equipment). Plus factor in from mid 70s to 2000, most affordable autos had generic unexciting styling.
I am a design professor, researched generational issues, published on some of these issues, etc. Both young and old should understand generational differences before putting down any generation group. Each generation has had their own unique challenges and each unique generation has been influenced by historical events. Historically each generation has been different from the previous generation (their parents). One issue remains constant, each generation wants to right the preceived wrongs of their parents generation. This learning curve is how society should improve.
As a professor, I understand the current generation has many new challenges and with any past generation, only time will tell if things improve by the time their children become young adults. Historically, the next generation will continue to try to make their own mark, and blame the previous generation for a long list of stuff. Ony time will tell if the current generation improves the current world as we know it now.
Back to the original post. Once a month I get my hair cut at an upscale place (because I am an old fart, not yet dependent on social services, and enjoy the facial massage with my shampoo). Last Sat. my monthy cut and fluff by the salon owner. Joking, I told him the selection of auto mags were two months old, and if I am reduced to reading ladies mags, I would have to go elsewhere. He said his daughter is responsible for the mags. I have met his daughter many times before and she always remembers my name. He called her to my chair and said the auto mags need to be monthly current. Picture this, an old fart in the chair getting a $60 cut. Salon owners daughter, stylish, attractive, early 20s, blond, asks if I read the article about this or that exotic high preformance car. Said yes, then with much enthusiam she starts naming off performance specs, etc. This young lady knows more about current high performance autos then I will every get my head around. She is a serious car nut. So perhaps this old fart still has hope the younger generation will demand more in the future than transportation generic appliances.
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Old 05-03-2012, 12:58 PM   #15
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oh wow this thread is going downhill fast. But as an older Gen y'er. teenagers always feel entitled. Their whole lives up to that point their parents were paying for the majority of their clothes, vacations, toys etc... Once you move out, you change your attitude... You learn with time that it takes work to get what you want.
True and somewhat easier to swallow with teens but I'm referring to the 20+ year olds that still think new cars, house down payments and everything else is the responsibility of their parents.

There was a study done that said the college students (in the US) had the highest self-esteem out of all previous generations but actually accomplished less than any other generation. It was also noted that comparing students world wide the ONLY thing American students excelled in was self-esteem. Other students in foreign countries excelled in science, math and physics.

I don't blame them (gen entitlement) entirely. It's our generation and this " everyone gets a trophy" BS. These kids just don't know what true competition is until it's too late. Nor do they have the toughness to withstand failure without retreating into a drug induced coma. We are over nurturing the youth.
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True and somewhat easier to swallow with teens but I'm referring to the 20+ year olds that still think new cars, house down payments and everything else is the responsibility of their parents.

There was a study done that said the college students (in the US) had the highest self-esteem out of all previous generations but actually accomplished less than any other generation. It was also noted that comparing students world wide the ONLY thing American students excelled in was self-esteem. Other students in foreign countries excelled in science, math and physics.

I don't blame them (gen entitlement) entirely. It's our generation and this " everyone gets a trophy" BS. These kids just don't know what true competition is until it's too late. Nor do they have the toughness to withstand failure without retreating into a drug induced coma. We are over nurturing the youth.
Speaking of studies, one I remember concluded that the majority of today's youth only aspire "to be famous". This goal did not include a career or hard-work or even any responsibility. Only to "get on TV" or millions of You-Tube hits, or whatever, was the goal.

Whatever historical or socio-economic factors are involved, its pretty much a given that the "next" generation will be the first one to not be "better off" than their parents. I think the ticking-time bomb created to pamper or entitle this new generation will go off in the not too distant future.
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Swiftdog01. I am an older Baby Boomer. Yes I remember Gen X and the 90's economic dot com boom. Issue was many Gen X'ers did not factor in historically we go through both boom and bust cycles. I did. I opened a .com business in the late 90s, geared to Gen. X, made big money and offered design services not previously offered on the web, but also because I am older knew the bubble would burst. I sold, cashed out only months before the .com collapse.
Knowing a little history goes a long way and could determine if you profit or go bust with a trend that is not sustainable. The .com trend / frenzy was not a sustainable trend. Inflating housing prices with low income loans was not a sustainable trend. Knowing economic history is why I sold my .com business before the bubble burst. Knowing the housing market bubble would burst, I sold off realestate before the housing market collasped.
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Old 05-03-2012, 01:29 PM   #18
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Right on OP!

And for the record, it goes:
Baby boomers
Gen X
Gen Y
Millenials

Edit: Wikipedia has it that gen Y is the same as millenials. Not how I remember studying it in grad school, but then again I was drunk half the time.
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Perhaps previous generations have develped a generation set up to fail. Granted the current generation has issues they must deal with, but each previous generation had new issues to deal with.
So tired of hearing that a current generation must clean up left over crap from a previous generation. Issue I have in North America is people not taking responsibility for their own actions and blaming others. Major issue in education. Not my fault my child failed, must be the fault of others so I will sue. My child failed because educators screwed up, never the issue the child failed because they did not learn the course, and parents refuse to take responsibility. We now have a society that anything bad in your life is someone elses fault. We have raised a generation of young people that do not accept responsibilty for their own actions.
Always, someone elses fault for failure.
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True and somewhat easier to swallow with teens but I'm referring to the 20+ year olds that still think new cars, house down payments and everything else is the responsibility of their parents.

There was a study done that said the college students (in the US) had the highest self-esteem out of all previous generations but actually accomplished less than any other generation. It was also noted that comparing students world wide the ONLY thing American students excelled in was self-esteem. Other students in foreign countries excelled in science, math and physics.

I don't blame them (gen entitlement) entirely. It's our generation and this " everyone gets a trophy" BS. These kids just don't know what true competition is until it's too late. Nor do they have the toughness to withstand failure without retreating into a drug induced coma. We are over nurturing the youth.

I have yet to meet one person in their 20's that expects their parents to pay for their car/house. School, sure. But that's a completely different topic and really can be argued both ways. I happened to graduate college just before the economy tanked in 07 and I was able to get a great first job easily. But there are so many people I know just 1 or 2 years younger than me with college degrees that have been working jobs like FedEx carrier or dog walker for several years and they're still actively looking for employment in their field of study... I know very few that are satisfied with living @ home with their parents rent free.
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You got lucky meeting someone with a little sense. I graduated from college last june and Id say half of the kids I went to school with were idiots. Jersey shore wanna be's. And these kids have no respect for anything at all. I had my gixxer pushed over at school, cracked windshield on my car, dents, scrapes. These kids now a days are just dumb and disrespectful from watching to many stupid reality shows.

I also blame the parents for this problem too, because most of the kids I went to highschool had $50,000 cars their parent bought them. Never worked a day in their lives, and got full rides for sports to amazing colleges and ended up dropping out. The parents were people who worked their way up from nothing and wanted to give their kids everything they never had growing up. Which ended up screwing every kid up.

I however was working 30+ hours a week washing dishes at a pizza place and graduated with honors, because I never once got any hand outs. And, Im glad I didnt get any, because I appreciate the things I can afford and thats exactly how im going to raise my kids. Hard work never killed anyone
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You got lucky meeting someone with a little sense. I graduated from college last june and Id say half of the kids I went to school with were idiots. Jersey shore wanna be's. And these kids have no respect for anything at all. I had my gixxer pushed over at school, cracked windshield on my car, dents, scrapes. These kids now a days are just dumb and disrespect from watching to many stupid reality shows.
This was the same thing I saw in college as well (Dec. '10 graduate). My friend's Eclipse had water put in the gas tank and hydro-locked. My RX-7 got messed with a couple times. And there were so many kids who were just there on parents' money and didn't give a crap about anyone else...
Sad, but true. Not to say there weren't good individuals, but they are getting harder to come by. I worked my butt off to get my college scholarships and still had to get a couple student loans, but I paid for college myself. I will never understand what I call the "Reality TV Gen"
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Dang-o-rama, did y'all ever have a hay ride with my thread or did ya?!?!!

Generational studies were a big focus of mine in college. Which, upon conclusion of several studies and provable statistical analyses, lead me to the conclusion of:

Old people suck. Not old people suck. Dogs are cool.

There; just saved you folks oodles of moolah. You're welcome.
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Dang-o-rama, did y'all ever have a hay ride with my thread or did ya?!?!!

Generational studies were a big focus of mine in college. Which, upon conclusion of several studies and provable statistical analyses, lead me to the conclusion of:

Old people suck. Not old people suck. Dogs are cool.

There; just saved you folks oodles of moolah. You're welcome.

LMAO well played Lt.
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