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Old 05-06-2012, 10:18 PM   #26
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Slow lane. Whenever I'm driving on the highway I'm in the slow lane. I keep pace with the fast lane but stay in the slow lane. It's safer. When was the last time you saw a cop sitting off on the right side of the road? They hang out in the median so they can clock the people in the fast lane.
I see it EVERY DAY about 430 /5 pm PST on east bond 580 SAN LEANDRO CA , right after FOOTHILL EXIT under the tee trees off the roadway and pointing something to the oncoming traffic , one thing is for sure , it's not a GOPRO camera , you got the drift ?
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Old 05-06-2012, 10:20 PM   #27
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hehe you must of driven in Atlanta traffic, either the "atlanta" 400 or the 285 "raceway"....you drive under 70 and your going to get honked at and eventually rearended........
Most likely both .
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Old 05-06-2012, 10:21 PM   #28
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I'd say he gets some sort of perk. He sells radar detectors from every company except Valentine1 - when V1 has been one of the leading detectors for like 10 years

I was thinking the same. Still, a lot of good info there.
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Old 05-06-2012, 10:23 PM   #29
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Well! Hopefully, all the Morons will respect the ZL1 and not want to jump on it like they have done with my SS.
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Old 05-06-2012, 10:32 PM   #30
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Well! Hopefully, all the Morons will respect the ZL1 and not want to jump on it like they have done with my SS.
It does not mater what you drive , at some point it will happen , it's up to you to ......just smile .
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Old 05-06-2012, 10:42 PM   #31
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In my professional opinion…THEY ARE A GIANT WASTE OF MONEY.

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Old 05-06-2012, 10:47 PM   #32
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In my professional opinion…THEY ARE A GIANT WASTE OF MONEY.

-A COP WHO STOPS A LOT OF CARS FOR SPEEDING
That's what I always thought. That's why I never bought one. MY buddies have them ,and they still get tickets. One had his taken from him in VA and destroyed right in front of him along with a big fine.
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Old 05-06-2012, 11:12 PM   #33
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That's what I always thought. That's why I never bought one. MY buddies have them ,and they still get tickets. One had his taken from him in VA and destroyed right in front of him along with a big fine.
I would've sued the cop for destroying my personal property...sometimes cops do things that just downright piss me off. The badge doesn't make you God. Give the guy a fine, but don't destroy his stuff...keep it professional and move along with the rest of your day.

FWIW, I bought mine to keep from getting tickets 5-10mph over the limit. I don't run around the streets doing 100mph everywhere I go.
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Old 05-06-2012, 11:27 PM   #34
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I would've sued the cop for destroying my personal property...sometimes cops do things that just downright piss me off. The badge doesn't make you God. Give the guy a fine, but don't destroy his stuff...keep it professional and move along with the rest of your day.

FWIW, I bought mine to keep from getting tickets 5-10mph over the limit. I don't run around the streets doing 100mph everywhere I go.
If they are illegal in VA, the cop could seize it. Not an issue.
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I would've sued the cop for destroying my personal property...sometimes cops do things that just downright piss me off. The badge doesn't make you God. Give the guy a fine, but don't destroy his stuff...keep it professional and move along with the rest of your day.

FWIW, I bought mine to keep from getting tickets 5-10mph over the limit. I don't run around the streets doing 100mph everywhere I go.
Yeah, I want to really start messing with the cops over a radar detector. I don't think so.
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Old 05-07-2012, 01:13 AM   #36
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Cause generally speaking speed limits are for stupid people, people who can't drive, and people who don't pay attention, Its one of those rules that lumps all drivers together.

An intelligent good driver knows what speeds are safe for what driving conditions.
Lets face it, all a speed limit is , is some other persons idea of what speed is safe for an unknown vehicle and driver quality.

I'll be honest, I've been driving for 34 years with no accidents. I drive the speeds I want to for any given condition, and sometimes that is slower than posted limits, sometimes its faster.

I also don't own a cellphone, eat while I'm driving, listen to music or other distracting activities, I pay attention to the road and what others around me are doing or may decide to do, and constantly check my mirrors,blind spots and monitor my gauges.

I know my cars and I know their condition, state of tune and capabilities within a safe margin. I do not push them beyond what is safe, and what they or I are capable.
Legal?...by the word of the law, NO.
Requires a radar detector, sometimes.
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Old 05-07-2012, 01:51 AM   #37
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Old 05-07-2012, 03:29 AM   #38
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Not everyone, I've never owned a radar detector in my life ...

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Old 05-07-2012, 04:01 AM   #39
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Do you drive at or under the speed limit? Or do you go with traffic?


Let's say your driving on a highway which has a 55 mph speed limit. Traffic is going around 75 - 80. You see a cop sitting in the median and don't think anything of it because "you're going with traffic." Well what do you know, the cop sees you in your new ZL1 and pulls you over. He decides that "going with traffic" isn't an excuse for you to be doing 10 - 15 over. You go to court, and what do you know; the Judge doesn't care that you were "going with traffic." You're now stuck with the ticket and the court fees.

Now, if you had a Valentine1 this would have been a different story. You're going with traffic, doing 10 -15 over, when all of a sudden your V1 starts beeping. You don't see a cop, but slow down to the speed limit anyway. Well a mile down the road you see a cop sitting in the median clocking people. You drive by doing the speed limit, and don't get a ticket.
Couldn't have said it any better than myself.

I got a speeding ticket last fall in just that scenerio, was driving my wifes Techno Blue ( similiar color to ABM ) SX4 and got a ticket for going 126 KPH in a 110 KPH zone while I was amongst and following traffic.

For the hell of it I asked him why he pulled me over and not one of the others, he simply replied ' You stood out'.
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:29 AM   #40
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Windshields for ZL1s are kind of pricey due to the coating for the HUD. Guess what? That coating drastically reduces the "range" of even the best detectors on the market including V1. The ONLY way to defeat that handicap is by going "stealth" & mount your detector behind the grill with readouts in the vicinity of your dash.

Yeah, I HATE ticket tension too & I definitely want to know when I'm being singled out. Then again, nothing beats VASCAR from aircraft.
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:08 AM   #41
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Windshields for ZL1s are kind of pricey due to the coating for the HUD. Guess what? That coating drastically reduces the "range" of even the best detectors on the market including V1. The ONLY way to defeat that handicap is by going "stealth" & mount your detector behind the grill with readouts in the vicinity of your dash.

Yeah, I HATE ticket tension too & I definitely want to know when I'm being singled out. Then again, nothing beats VASCAR from aircraft.
I disagree. Your grille is probably the last place you want to put a radar detector. If you put it there, every car/truck/bus/etc in front of you is potentially/probably blocking the detector and reducing its "range." I believe every manufacturer will tell you to mount the detector as high as possible for this very reason.
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:45 AM   #42
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I doubt that a detector will do you much good if you happen to be "tailgating" the vehicle(s) infront of your car. Obviously, exceeding the limit isn't advisable under those conditions, either. Unless you can disguise your unit as part of the roof fin antenna, well... 'nuff said. Under the sun visor would be wonderful, IF it weren't for the HUD coating & the dangle cord indicating your intention to "break-the-LAW" to a revenue enhancement officer in tough economic times for Cities, everywhere. Of course, YMMV... as always! Cordless? They work ON/OFF in nano-seconds... feel lucky?

Most of the LE I'm acquainted with "shoot" the license plate due to it's highly reflective nature. Heck, what do I know... I only spent 3 decades as a civil engineer.
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Old 05-07-2012, 11:12 AM   #43
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Hey all ZL1 members, curious why everyone is getting a radar detector in their car. Sure it might be worth it if you speed/race on the street that often. But is it that worth it to wreck you baby, and put others and yourself in danger? You guys have track times that back up how fast this ZL1 is, what makes it necessary to go prove it to the guy who has a itchy foot.

Go ahead and debate and hate me, I just don't see the point in money for a valentine, etc. When you can put that money on mods to go make some self records.
Simple, because speed limits/tickets have nothing to do with safety (they haven't for 30+ years). It's about revenue generation for local municipalities.

Posted limits of 65 aren't just ridiculous, they're insane. Practically everyone does 75-80, and the one person doing 65 is actually a GREATER danger than the one doing 90. The vast majority of the time speed isn't what kills, it's *differential* speed that does. If everyone's doing 100, it's not that much more dangerous than everyone doing 85.
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Old 05-07-2012, 11:18 AM   #44
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If they are illegal in VA, the cop could seize it. Not an issue.
That guy who had his destroyed in front of him is lucky. They have zero tolerence here for radar detectors and I have known a few people to go to jail for it. I am sure there were other factors that caused the jail stay but you get the idea.

I honestly cannot remember the last time repealing the law came up in the general assembly but it has been a while.
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Old 05-07-2012, 11:23 AM   #45
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I got more speeding tickets WITH a radar detector than without . . . false security in my book.

And that is NOT with cheapy store bought units . .

It getting stolen out of the car was a good thing in the end . .
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Old 05-07-2012, 11:26 AM   #46
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I'm usually NEVER on the road without my detector. Now, depending on conditions, I have been known to go 10 under or more due to road debris potential, deer crossing, etc etc...

A radar detector is just a little extra insurance protection for those times you are just daydreaming along and don't want to worry that you might be 5 over the speed limit.

To each his own!
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I'm usually NEVER on the road without my detector. Now, depending on conditions, I have been known to go 10 under or more due to road debris potential, deer crossing, etc etc...

A radar detector is just a little extra insurance protection for those times you are just daydreaming along and don't want to worry that you might be 5 over the speed limit.

To each his own!
This is the most agreeable thing I've seen. 5-10 over is fine but I don't do it. I stick to the limit in the slow lane if I have to. But my main point of starting this thread is if you buy this to race and speed excessively the difference in speeds to everyone else doing the speed limit or 5-10 over is what's dangerous. I'm just hoping none of you buy this for the fact to race, there are track's almost everywhere you can go to where it's safe and legal.
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Cause generally speaking speed limits are for stupid people, people who can't drive, and people who don't pay attention, Its one of those rules that lumps all drivers together.

An intelligent good driver knows what speeds are safe for what driving conditions.
Lets face it, all a speed limit is , is some other persons idea of what speed is safe for an unknown vehicle and driver quality.

I'll be honest, I've been driving for 34 years with no accidents. I drive the speeds I want to for any given condition, and sometimes that is slower than posted limits, sometimes its faster.

I also don't own a cellphone, eat while I'm driving, listen to music or other distracting activities, I pay attention to the road and what others around me are doing or may decide to do, and constantly check my mirrors,blind spots and monitor my gauges.

I know my cars and I know their condition, state of tune and capabilities within a safe margin. I do not push them beyond what is safe, and what they or I are capable.
Legal?...by the word of the law, NO.
Requires a radar detector, sometimes.
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I am in agreement with you 100%. I drive I-10 in NW Florida a lot. If there were any interstate in the country deserving of an increase to 80mph, this is it. I have been driving since 1973 and the times I have been nabbed for speeding was when I did not have a detector.

I do not always use one and rely on my vision and senses to stay out of trouble. With the Vette I can usually see them before they "see" me. I also avoid driving bright red and bright yellow cars.
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Old 05-07-2012, 12:29 PM   #49
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Im not sure if you think everyone is trying to go 200mph on the street or what, but I do tend to drive faster than the posted limits, I never drive to fast for conditions or control, but I tend to drive 5-10 mph over the limit on interstates and hwys. Doesnt mean im opening up my car to see just how fast it will go when I go to the grocery store.

And depending on mood, quota etc, the cops will pull you over for 5 to 10 over, the last ticket I got for 11 over was $280, and I think they went easy on me. (over 20 years driving and Ive gotten 3 tickets)

so if you tend to hedge the posted limit, the detector can pay for itself if it warns you once before you see the cop.
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Do you drive at or under the speed limit? Or do you go with traffic?


Let's say your driving on a highway which has a 55 mph speed limit. Traffic is going around 75 - 80. You see a cop sitting in the median and don't think anything of it because "you're going with traffic." Well what do you know, the cop sees you in your new ZL1 and pulls you over. He decides that "going with traffic" isn't an excuse for you to be doing 10 - 15 over. You go to court, and what do you know; the Judge doesn't care that you were "going with traffic." You're now stuck with the ticket and the court fees.

Now, if you had a Valentine1 this would have been a different story. You're going with traffic, doing 10 -15 over, when all of a sudden your V1 starts beeping. You don't see a cop, but slow down to the speed limit anyway. Well a mile down the road you see a cop sitting in the median clocking people. You drive by doing the speed limit, and don't get a ticket.
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Generally, the folks who purchase these radars do it so they don't get a ticket for going 5 or 10 over the speed limit.

ALL this plus more...I got tired of clicking multi-quote.

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FYI - I've heard a long time ago when I was an insurance agent that going too slow under the posted limit is equally as dangerous as going too fast over the posted limit.
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