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Old 04-21-2015, 08:11 AM   #1
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Lowered ZL1

I just installed Pfadt 1.25" lowering springs on my ZL1. The car has gone down a bit but not as much as i thought. There is a lowered 1LE in my area with the same setup that sits lower. I havent done the alignment yet but will that really make a difference? I plan to do it this weekend. How much time should I give it to settle? Haven't driven it much since the install its my weekend car.
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Old 04-21-2015, 08:14 AM   #2
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It will most definitely make a difference. I would drive it for about 100 miles to let the springs settle and then take it for alignment. Also VERY IMPORTANT that you have all the bolts/bushings on the suspension "clocked".

You will be very pleased after that.

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Old 04-21-2015, 08:17 AM   #3
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Did you remember to time your other suspension bushings? If not you're loosing some of the drop effect. You need to loosen the other suspension bushings with the car sitting on all four wheels, the suspension will readjust and then re-tighten those bushings. If you do a search, one of the vendors on here actually put up a diagram showing which components need clocking/timed. Hope this helps.

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Old 04-21-2015, 08:31 AM   #4
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A mechanic installed them for me and I would say he did not do that. Ive had other cars in the past lowered and didn't know that info. Good stuff. All he told me was that i did not need an alignment because he didnt remove the dampers. I was still going to do it for peace of mind. I need to find someone who look for the things yall have mentioned.
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Old 04-21-2015, 12:14 PM   #5
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A mechanic installed them for me and I would say he did not do that. Ive had other cars in the past lowered and didn't know that info. Good stuff. All he told me was that i did not need an alignment because he didnt remove the dampers. I was still going to do it for peace of mind. I need to find someone who look for the things yall have mentioned.

Your mechanic is "talking out of his ass"! He did have the alignment equipment in his shop? If not then you need an alignment shop with the proper tools! The geometry changed so it needs to be realigned as stated by the others. The bushings and other parts need to be "timed". Search for the Gen5 alignment thread started by Justice Pete, it explains a lot which will hopefully help you not fall into this situation ever again.
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Old 04-21-2015, 12:19 PM   #6
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A mechanic installed them for me and I would say he did not do that. Ive had other cars in the past lowered and didn't know that info. Good stuff. All he told me was that i did not need an alignment because he didnt remove the dampers. I was still going to do it for peace of mind. I need to find someone who look for the things yall have mentioned.
He didn't remove the dampers? Then how did he install the springs? LOL

Any time you lower, the wheels will camber in and toe will change as well. Find a new shop and get the bushings timed and the alignment adjusted.

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Old 04-21-2015, 12:49 PM   #7
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He didn't remove the dampers? Then how did he install the springs? LOL

Any time you lower, the wheels will camber in and toe will change as well. Find a new shop and get the bushings timed and the alignment adjusted.

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Your mechanic is "talking out of his ass"! He did have the alignment equipment in his shop? If not then you need an alignment shop with the proper tools! The geometry changed so it needs to be realigned as stated by the others. The bushings and other parts need to be "timed". Search for the Gen5 alignment thread started by Justice Pete, it explains a lot which will hopefully help you not fall into this situation ever again.
Lol Im only telling you guys what he told me!
Just read the thread, wow! I wish I read this before and had the means of installing this myself! Ok so during the alignment process, are the bushings and other parts re-clocked? Ill need to find an alignment shop that knows what they're doing but its no easy task in this city.
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Old 04-21-2015, 02:27 PM   #8
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Print out the timing bushing chart and torque specs, available on this site. Go to a reputable shop and give them that information and ask for an alignment.
It will set you back a couple hundred but it is necessary.
Your ride height will change after you drive out of that alignment shop.
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Old 04-21-2015, 03:55 PM   #9
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Old 04-21-2015, 06:46 PM   #10
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Print out the timing bushing chart and torque specs, available on this site. Go to a reputable shop and give them that information and ask for an alignment.
It will set you back a couple hundred but it is necessary.
Your ride height will change after you drive out of that alignment shop.
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Wow thanks alot guys! I printed everything I need now ill try to find a reputable shop but if not then off to the dealership.
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Old 04-21-2015, 09:56 PM   #11
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Timing the bushings make a huge difference. I just put a set of coilovers and had drove the car to my house and back to the shop. I started timing the bushings and it's amazing when they start getting loose they pop from being under load and stress.
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